Posted on 05/06/2012 11:09:34 AM PDT by nuconvert
Socialist Francois Hollande has been elected as France's new president, early estimates say.
He got about 52% of votes in Sunday's run-off, according to projections based on partial results, against 48% for centre-right incumbent Nicolas Sarkozy.
Mr Hollande would be the first French socialist president since 1995.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
Look for the financial markets to crash tomorrow.
Hmmmm....we may be seeing Germans marching through Paris again in about a year. (Just kidding....)
See how well socialism works when there is a lack of "other people's money" to redistribute.
Watching the race between Nicolas Sarkozy and Francois Hollande reminds me of watching the race between Barack Obama and Willard Romney...
France just stepped off the cliff.
Can hardly wait to see the 75% taxes
take effect.
But then again, we are next in line.
Looks like France will be going the way of Greece and Spain. It’s going to get really ugly across the pond very soon.
Questions for those who would know:
1.Will he have carte blanche to further the socialist agenda?
2.If so,how soon are the socialist policies to be implemented?
The French legislative elections happen in 5 weeks. It will be interesting how Le Pen’s party does.
Before or after the “annex” Poland?
The entire European Union has serious economic problems owing to their socialistic policies. How is a socialist president going to save France and other members of the European Union from the self destructive forces of socialism?
Will the USA bail them out again? Or, are all of us on a steeper part of that "slippery slope" toward certain economic collapse? Socialism fails 100% of the time it is tried.
We will be watching France's new government with great interest.
So what would be the difference exactly? France has always been a socialist cesspool. Sarkozy was no conservative reformer, that's for damn sure.
What does France have to offer the world anyhow? They used to be known for their wine and cuisine but now California, Australia, and even Argentina are making better and more affordable wines and as such, French wines take up less and less shelf space in our wine stores. French restaurants have pretty much disappeared from the American landscape as our palates have moved on to more exotic cuisine (i.e. Oriental, Mexican) or just plain old Texas-style steakhouses and barbecue.
“So what would be the difference exactly?”
You & the French people will soon find out
I always wonder how long a system like this can sustain itself. Less people working and producing, more and more demands.
The country eventually goes bankrupt, I guess. And when it is bankrupt and can’t pay, you end up with angry dependent citizens rioting in the streets, no economy to speak of because any industry has been driven away and out of existence, and a populous with no skills to speak of because they have been on the free ride train their whole lives.
Sarkozy was a socialist himself BUT HE LOVED AMERICA. This Hollande clown sounds like obama but speaks French, and hates America.
Or they do that by printing more money!
Once again, the people vote for whoever promises more free stuff!
There goes an anti-Iranian ally. The welfare-funded, antisemitic, muslim vote probably tipped the scales.
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Sadly he reflects the intent of the people. Democracy at work.
Euro ALREADY down to $1.3045 in the overnight’s.
Apple stock, the new Worldwide Reserve Currency, should SOAR tomorrrow.
Maybe Socialism will work THIS time?
Won’t happen- unless and until the debt deals begin to unravel.
Did the French (and Muzzies) vote for him to make things worse?
To tell you the truth it doesn’t matter which one they voted for just like with the Mittens/Obama match up. Either one takes you down Loser Road.
“Will the USA bail them out again?”
DUH....
Obama-Owning Goldman-Sachs has too much riding on this, to just lose out.
TOO BIG TO FAIL, BABY!!!
That’s what happens when 5% of the France’s population is Muslim- the largest Muslim bloc in Europe. We have kind of the same problem here with Muslims and Hispanics joining the Blacks in the Democrat plantation. Uncontrolled immigration, legal and illegal, create critical voting blocs that trump majority rule. The cultural, religious, and historical cohesion of a nation splinters. This is what is happening here in the US and Obama is playing it to the hilt.
The carnivalesque/Felliniesque circus music on the soundtrack gave that away. And while actors portrayed Sarkozy, Chirac, and Villepin, nobody portrayed the socialist candidates.
In the film Sarkozy is maniacally ambitious and not particularly principled, though the actor gave his performance some nuance and even created some sympathy for Sarko, particularly when his wife started walking out on him.
In so far as ideology is concerned, according to the movie Sarkozy was a reformer, "liberal, atlantiste, et communautaire" -- meaning free-market oriented, NATO- and America-friendly, and pro-EU (however much we may think the European Union anti-free-market and anti-American, it does represent a challenge to inward-looking France).
But Sarkozy had to hide that and appeal to France's protectionist and welfarist tendencies, because fear of change and desire for protection and subsidies are stronger in France than any desire for economic freedom or free competition.
I guess that's what people are calling "socialism" though it doesn't have much to do with the classical socialist program of public ownership and control of the means of production or equal incomes.
What I take away from the film and today's results is that that French desire for protection and support, that fear of competition and change was too strong to buck. I don't know if Sarkozy really tried very hard once he got in. But his own growing personal unpopularity and those strong French tendencies probably would have made much in the way of reform impossible.
That’s like Cali re electing Jerry Brown.
"Islam is the second-most widely practiced religion in France behind Roman Catholicism by ... with an estimated total of 5 to 10 percent of the national population." - Wikipedia
SARKOZY HEADING FOR LOSS TO SOCIALIST 53.3-46.7
But if the French are stupid enough to elect a guy like that they deserve what happens next.
Another reason for Germany to pull the plug on the Euro....
Kiss France goodbye.
I’m happy to see it myself. It will ultimately cause the French misery, and given their actions and history it is richly deserved.
Of course, you know the media is already conditioning us to accept larger pools of revenue for the UN, and a bailout of Europe in general.
“Won’t happen- unless and until the debt deals begin to unravel.”
But...Isn’t that precisely Hollande’s agenda?
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The fiscal compact treaty requiring cutting deficits and debt was signed at the beginning of March by 25 EU states and has already been ratified by several.
Once sworn into office Hollande will meet with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, where they are expected to lay the groundwork for an informal summit of EU leaders on growth to be held at the end of the month or June, and a formal summit on June 28 and 29.
For Merkel, the main advocate of austerity in public finances, it is out of the question to reopen debate on the fiscal compact.
Will the new French president clash with the German leader?
During the campaign Hollande vowed repeatedly to “renegotiate” the fiscal compact or to “complete” it with measures to achieve economic growth, which would ease the task of cutting deficits.
http://www.france24.com/en/20120506-hollande-faces-battle-with-berlin-over-growth
Should we expect anything less from a bunch of self-important, cheese eating, surrender monkeys?
we don't have any money, but unless Obama is defeated, even by Romney, he will borrow money from China to GIVE to Europe. Our great grandchildren will, unless the entire world economy collapses, bail out this newest French disaster.
Sooo, will Hollande and Obama become best buds? Sounds like they have a great foundation.
Those that think that the American Public is smart enough to see what Obama has done and will continue to do this Country once he is Reelected had better take a Reality Test.
Until the Votes are counted on Election Day 2012, I will not be fooled into believing that Obama can be defeated.
I can only Hope that he will will lose in a Landslide but then I think of a saying an Old Navy Chief used to always use.
“Hope (wish) in one hand and spit in the other and see which one fills up first”.
This is not good. Europe is collapsing because the socialist governments are spending more than they collect in taxes. They borrow the difference. Adding a “growth driven” France to the European deficit will only accelerate the collapse. Be prepared. Next year is going to be a nightmare...
Nah, it would be more like an election between Obama and Bernie Sanders, with Obama in the Sarkozy role as the "more conservative" candidate.
I hate France, so it's nice to have a French president where the feeling is mutual. It was silly to see conservatives excuse France's 70+ year record of betraying America because their latest President vacationed here and tried to woo us into voting for Obama (and then complained Obama wasn't liberal enough after his "pal" was elected). Sarko may have "loved America" but he sure hated Israel. Buh bye Sarko.
“But if the French are stupid enough to elect a guy like that they deserve what happens next.”
You could easily substitute Americans for French in that sentence, we have and are getting what we deserve for electing a dog eating communist and we’re about to do it again.
Hmmmm....we may be seeing Germans marching through Paris again in about a year. (Just kidding....)
Perhaps Germany leaving the Euro zone completely.
What does France have to offer the world anyhow? They used to be known for their wine and cuisine but now California, Australia, and even Argentina are making better and more affordable wines and as such, French wines take up less and less shelf space in our wine stores. French restaurants have pretty much disappeared from the American landscape as our palates have moved on to more exotic cuisine (i.e. Oriental, Mexican) or just plain old Texas-style steakhouses and barbecue.
California even has banned foie gras!!!
I’m glad that the hard, radical out of control right wing government (that the French are known for) is finally being replaced with a sensible, moderate, soft spoken liberal government.
Most people don’t realize this, but France is a more conservative place than our own California. :) But at least the French people are starting to wake up.
/sarc(???????)
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