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So, the real truth is that incumbents polling less than 50% prior to the election do not always lose. The issue is whether or not their opponent is polling higher than them.

If the incumbent is polling higher than the challenger, even if under 50%, the incumbent wins 80% of the time.

That's a whole lot different than the conventional wisdom being bandied about by Clinton insider turned Republican Trojan Horse, Dick Morris.

1 posted on 05/03/2012 10:50:34 AM PDT by xzins
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i think you really have to be soft in the head to think romney stands any chance of winning in november. he will get slammed harder than mccain did. the guy just isn’t likeable, he’s totally craven on conservative issues, and he doesn’t provide enough of a positive distinction between him and obama. romney’s campaign is doa. absolutely no one cares.


2 posted on 05/03/2012 10:56:35 AM PDT by msimpson
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LOL. This is a “most people lie about sex” article by the NYT to reassure Obama’s supporters that he can still win.


3 posted on 05/03/2012 10:58:17 AM PDT by kabar
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Just get everyone you know that supports your views out to vote, and realize that we are in a political war against the left. If we win the election, that is just the beginning. That should serve as an infusion of energy to continue to use each and every waking breath to fight, defeat, and humiliate the left, until they self-destruct and no longer exist.

They are the enemies of human rights, human dignity, self-determination, rational thought, and the quest for meaning in existence. They are the antithesis of intellectual, as they are blinded to learning and progressing by the delusions promulgated by their pathetic ideologies. They are hurtful, destructive, and mislead.

This piece by the NYT is designed to engender hope within the ranks of the left, who are demoralized by the fact that their ideology has been proved once again to be stupid and ineffective, and by the fact that their manufactured figurehead is polling poorly. Don't be deceived. Each and every time the left tries to demoralize you just remember that they are doing this because you are kicking their a**. The proper response is to kick harder - figuratively of course.

4 posted on 05/03/2012 11:00:14 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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Wow. What a revelation. The guy who gets more votes wins. Amazing.


5 posted on 05/03/2012 11:03:34 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism: Leave your principles by the door. You won't be needing them any more.)
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Hah, this statistical chicanery is laughable even knowing that it’s the Slimes. Take a specific statistic, include seemingly-related results for what are really not related events, and use the now-inverted, wholly invalid results to refute the original specific statistic. Numbers don’t lie!


7 posted on 05/03/2012 11:04:58 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Incumbents Polling Below 50 Percent Often Win Re-Election, Despite Conventional Wisdom

Translation: a 2nd term for Barack the Usurper is a fait accompli, and the NYT is damn sure going to do whatever they can to make it happen.

8 posted on 05/03/2012 11:05:50 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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The NYT: Doing their daily level best to make sure no one can ever accuse them of being impartial or objective.


10 posted on 05/03/2012 11:08:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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If you combine the three types of incumbents — House, Senate, governor — they had a record of 66-17

As there's no such thing as gerrymandering in House races, there's no possibility that an incumbent with low approval ratings would win anyway. Otherwise this data would be statistically suspect.

11 posted on 05/03/2012 11:10:39 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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That's a whole lot different than the conventional wisdom being bandied about by Clinton insider turned Republican Trojan Horse, Dick Morris.

Dick Morris is basically an idiot. He has some interesting insight once in awhile, but he is mostly just found a market for telling conservatives what they want to hear at this point. He is also the king of revisionist history. Dick makes incorrect predictions constantly and then goes back and qualifies his previous claims in order to say he wasn't wrong. I think BoR has won like a dozen steak dinners from Morris because of how often Dick is flat out wrong.

13 posted on 05/03/2012 11:12:43 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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Winning is for Dudley Do Rights.

Obama plans to steal it!

14 posted on 05/03/2012 11:12:46 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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Presidents do not.


18 posted on 05/03/2012 11:17:23 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Presidents do not.


19 posted on 05/03/2012 11:18:25 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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IIRC the tea party and Palin had a high percentage of incumbents tossed in the races that they targeted. The author fails to realize that 20% times 5 election cycles = 100%. 2012 is going to be a blood bath for incumbents. A number of losers saw the 2012 writing on the wall, example: Yellow Snowe (D-Rino) Maine.
23 posted on 05/03/2012 11:20:44 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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Graveyard, meet Whistle.


26 posted on 05/03/2012 11:33:23 AM PDT by pabianice (ame with)
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Wishful thinking from Nate Rust of the NY Slimes.


33 posted on 05/03/2012 12:36:20 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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LOL. Written right before the massive shellacking the Democrat incumbents got in 2010, used to calm their fears about losing big.

They lost big.

Nothing is set in stone, but will be a close election in 2012, just going by the base of support on each side.

All we have to do to let Obama destroy our country with leftist policies? Not stop his re-election.


34 posted on 05/03/2012 2:47:39 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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38 posted on 05/03/2012 3:28:13 PM PDT by Republican Extremist
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I knew this particular bit of propaganda was coming out soon as Obama languishes below 50 percent. And voila — here it is, right on schedule.


42 posted on 05/03/2012 6:02:31 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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Thanks for another Nate the Nut fantasy.

When Nate dies, physicists will be bidding on his head so they can perform experiments in a total vacuum.


50 posted on 05/03/2012 8:50:51 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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POLITICS
Updated May 3, 2012, 7:58 p.m. ET

Math Challenge for Romney

more in Politics & Policy »
BY NEIL KING JR. AND LAURA MECKLER

Mitt Romney’s campaign says it has many routes to the 270 votes needed for victory in the Electoral College this fall. But almost all of them rely on a difficult feat: Winning at least six states that went for President Barack Obama in 2008.

Spot Mr. Romney the five biggest swing states the Democrat won four years ago—Florida, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina and Indiana—and the Republican still wouldn’t be guaranteed the White House. To win, he would need to also carry at least one other state that went to Mr. Obama four years ago.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204422404576595461977407434.html?mod=WSJ_Election_MIDDLETopStories


53 posted on 05/04/2012 6:16:26 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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