Posted on 05/02/2012 2:24:25 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
National Review Online has confirmed that Michele Bachmann will endorse Mitt Romney tomorrow at a campaign event in Virginia.
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She’s scheduled to be in VA with him and Gov. McDonnell. I suppose she’ll endorse him then.
Ask yourself what else you would expect her to do. She KNOWS that obama is a huge threat to this country. By regulation and executive order he is eroding what's left of our liberty daily. He's dividing and polarizing this country as never before. Black vs. white, male vs female, homo vs normal, poor vs middle class and rich, middle class vs rich, unions vs free men, etc. etc etc.
As poor a choice as many of us feel Romney to be...he's infinitely better than another 4 years of obama. Michelle is being a patriot here and I support her for that. I've never known her ever do anything that wasn't in the best interest of AMerica and that's what she's doing now.
Love it! LOL
I think there are a lot of DU kooks hanging around here who have been brainwashed by Obama, who don’t have their grandchildren and great-grandchildren’s futures to worry about. They also don’t give a hoot about anyone else’s grandchildren either, they’re too busy promoting abortion for everyone. Of course their mothers didn’t practice abortion, very convenient for them.
If you don't yet know who Obama is and what his administration is doing to dismantle everything this country stands for, then you'd better start reading and get informed before you vote in November.
Every Conservative, Republican and Independent with a brain is going to get out and vote against Obama and he is going to LOSE.
In spite of people like you. It is I who have more faith in the country than you do, not the other way around.
As I said in my first post here....who's she supposed to endorse....OBAMA??
In spite of your desire that she do that, she's not about to, now or ever.
And neither will I.
I wonder how many of those same purists ridiculed her during her run and called her too conservative, crazy, a nut, etc.
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I supported her on her run. This is a real disappointment.
I don't hate Romney. I oppose him. There is a difference.
You're right that the anti-Romney-under-any-circumstances people are a small minority of the electorate. However, I strongly disagree that they "mean absolutely nothing in the upcoming election."
When combined with the people who won't publicly attack Romney but won't work aggressively for him, the anti-Romney and the don't-like-Romney groups are a significant part of the Republican base. You don't need to take my word for it. Even Chuck Norris warned in a recent column that he doesn't think Mitt Romney understands the depth of the problem he has among conservatives.
Will this affect the fall election? The problem is that while Obama has successfully motivated his grassroots Democrats, Romney has been mowing down his Republican grassroots. Dole did the same thing in 1996. It wasn't a winning strategy then, and it's even worse now.
Here's a big part of why Romney's method to win the primary doesn't translate into a November victory.
Romney used his personal money and that of close friends and business colleagues to defeat fellow Republicans, but he won't have anywhere near enough to do that against Obama.
Getting grassroots support was important for Dole and Clinton in 1996, but it's far more important today due to campaign financing and the de facto end of the public presidential campaign financing system. To win a national presidential campaign today takes hundreds of millions of dollars, not the tens of millions that Romney has at his disposal, and raising that kind of money requires grassroots support that Romney simply does not have and has actually been alienating. His current goal seems to be to say, "Okay, I know you don't like me, but I'm better than the other guy." Fine, maybe that will get people to vote for him rather than Obama, but it won't get them to pull out checkbooks and write numbers with lots of zeros after them, or to aggressively campaign.
I do believe that the anti-Romney wing of the Republican Party is going to be a significant contributing factor to Romney's defeat this fall, in an election that Republicans should have won by a blowout with any reasonably good candidate.
Obama is so bad that Romney may win anyway, but I don't see it with current polling data, either nationally or in key states. Obama hasn't even begun to use his war chest of finances, and he's still polling well compared to Romney. Yes, I know it's early, and yes, I know it's true that anything can happen between now and November, but I am not happy at all with what I see.
I think conservatives have to come up with a plan for what to do after November, whether Romney wins or loses, since either outcome will be a loss for conservative principles. We can debate which is worse, and that's a legitimate debate, but what's not debatable is that we have two bad candidates, and either of them will do bad things if they're in the White House.
how about ‘its over and we need to make sure Obama does not get a second term’
even Newt said it well yesterday....
Romney is so much more conservative than Marxist zer0bama...more of a difference between the 2 than between Carter and Reagan.
it is time to defeat the Marxist...
I will use the special ‘springy kind’ of clothes pin to hold my nose as I vote....
Darn missed post 41. It was nuked.
It's not because the American people who care about its future are going to stop the COMMUNIST in the WH from winning another four years. It's not over yet, because we can still do something about it, and we WILL in November.
Do you honestly think Romney's going to stop this trajectory? and how.
Do you honestly think Romney is a Communist who will do the same thing with the EPA that Obama is doing? Will appoint SC Justices like Kagan and Sotomayor? Will have criminals, Communists, Maoists, truthers and overt racists in his Cabinet? Will continue spending us into oblivion with no sense of responsibility? Will he support infanticide?
Do you honestly think that Romney will bow to our enemies? Bargain with the Taliban? Abandon and handcuff our troops? Alienate our allies? Abandon Israel?
C'mon people! We don't have to 'support' Romney (no conservative does) to understand that he's a stop gap to save the country, and that Obama has to GO.
(btw, I'm 'informed' about Glenn Beck, and I don't agree with him about a lot. But when it comes to getting rid of Obama, I'm with him 100%......aren't you??)
The only reason Santorum hasn’t endorsed Romney is the delegates he holds has value. Once he gets what he wants he’ll endorse.
The same when he stepped out of the race just before Pa. To loose there would have surely ruined his political career path.
Santorum’s in play in the very same way he always has been. Whatever advances his path....He’s holding out because the GOP would have it so until they are ready to play Rick’s hand.
Actually, when you try and sacntimouniously instruct me on what this site, FR, is all about, it does matter. Fourteen years of continously involvement with FR is clear indication that someone knows what the site is about...without your puffed up manner of trying to tell me.
As to the Primary, I provided you a link where I have tracked it meticuously since day one. I know exactly what has happened. Voters pulled the lever for Romney and he is winning in vote count and in delegate count You can whine about it all you want...lies, money, blah, blah, blah, is just your way of saying somehow that it is "unfair." Sort of like the libs make excuses.
But he has those votes and he has those delegates as a result of individual people making a decision. I do not believe GOP voters are as easily led around by the nose as you imagine...and will not inslut them like the drones who vote for the DNC because of all the entitlements and welffare they are receiving.
If your asseertion were true, there would never have been a Tea PArty to influence the GOP like it did in 2010, and there would never have been a 2020 victory.
Politics, , as they all have indicated, is a rough game. The vetting has made them all better...and despite your rediculous assertion to the contrary, Romney has been vetted, four years ago and now. We know exactly what he is, what he did before, what he says he represents now.
Your answer to that is, "He'll stab us in the back."
More whining. We do not know that. He is a pol, and clearly one who has shifted with the elections he is running in. He wants to win and stay in office. He will not lightly turn on the commitments that got him into office. He did a lot of what he did in Mass precisly because he was true to what he ran on...things that we did not like or agree woith...though he did issue over 300 vetoes against the even more liberal legislature there, most of which were shot down. Studying those vetoes will also tell you a lot about the man. I would sincerely suggest ypou take a look at them if you are interested in knowing even more about the man.
Pragmatic reality is what we have to face, and then cooly make a decision based on it...not based on the emotion of the moment and how angry we are that things have gone this way...though that anger and emotion is understandable.
Cain, Perry, Bachman, Newt, Sarah, Santorum and all the rest will be pragmatic in the end. They will endorse and support him should he go ahead and win the nomination...and they will do so in a fashion and at a time that will allow them the most leverage possible to influence things for the better. That is all good.
And this does not make them the enemy. It does not make them traitors. It makes them politicians who see the lay of the land and who, within their principles, are going to try to make the best of it for America as they see it and for themselves.
That's the reality of the situation. its the way it is. Tantrums, anger, outburst, attacking otheres, emotions, etc. will not change that.
Newt said it very well yesterday:
"This will not be a race between Romney and Reagon."
I wish to God it were...but the reality is, it is not.
"This is a race between Romney and the most destructive, leftists, President in US History," He sadi.
And that is the essential truth of this situation.
Despite the fact that I was for all of the others...and despite the fact that I too will wait until he has all of the delegates necessary in the hopes thetre may still be a brokered convention...should he be the nominee, I will support him against the marxist Obama.
That's my personal decision. I have stated it clearly. It does not require and is not deserving of the derision you immediately heap on it. You have your own decision to make. I can understand it...though I may not agree with because of how dangerous I feel Obama is.
Otherwise I would happily vote for a Virgil Goode as the Constitution Party platform is much closer to my own beliefs. I have and will continue to support their candidates down ticket wherever they have a chance to win and unseat a RINO or a Dem. But, IMHO, pragmatically, they are not ready to do that at the top of the ticket yet...and the truth is, would only throw the election to Obama whom I can in no way be responsible for his election either by my action or inaction.
That's all. I know you support the same conservative values (probably at least 95%) that I do. That makes us allies, not enemies...even if we approach this different. it will take all we can do to get the right House and Senate in there and to change things at the state and local levels. We certainly can be united in that effort, irrespective of the top of the ticket.
Only one of them hates America, and will continue to destroy everything conservatives stand for if he gets another four years.
I agree that we need a plan, as conservatives, and that Romney can only be a stopgap, but to consider the damage he will do equal to the complete and possibly permanent destruction that Obama will absolutely do is to absurd.
I'm not willing to throw America into the incinerator, so that there is NOTHING left for my children and grandchildren.
All I can hope for is that those saying that they ARE willing to let Obama destroy the country for four more years in the anonymity of FR, have the brains to not follow through with this absurdity when November rolls around....
Most true conservatives will be voting for Romney.
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Fail. True conservatives would never sell their political souls and vote for a lying, socialist, gun grabbing, homosexualist, pro-abortion RINO.
True conservatives stand for principles over party and stand their ground.
That makes US true conservatives, and you...well...not.
I sand by JR - FUMR! Or do you think that JR isn’ a ‘true conservative’ either?
I am leaving, but I will check back later and try to catch up on this thread.
Good man, JH - well-worded post that clearly shows you're head is on right.
hey also don’t give a hoot about anyone else’s grandchildren either, they’re too busy promoting abortion for everyone.
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You mean like ROMNEY?!?!
Sorry, I will not sell my soul for political expediency.
Great post, Jeff. THANKS!
Romney is so much more conservative than Marxist zer0bama...more of a difference between the 2 than between Carter and Reagan.
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That is the most stupid statement I have read in awhile.
What the Hell have you been smoking?
Romney is NO Conservative and sure as hell no Reagan. He is a ‘white and delightsome’ Obama.
Romneys history tells it all....
It’s fruitless trying to discuss Romney with you folks who are desperately trying to justify your vote “FOR” Romney and his platform... They are both bad for this country...the bottom line. Conservatives don’t vote for Socialists. Both of them are.
You are “supporting” Romney but in your twisted thinking you can’t bring yourself to say so. Pretty rich coming from a mindset of folks who’ve declared they’d vote for an orange juice can before they’d vote for Obama. Voting for Romney would be AS STUPID as voting for an orange juice can.
Romney actively campaigned in Obama strongholds while ignoring the base. His goal was purely to collect delegates in the most concentrated areas he could get them.
In Michigan, Santorum won 57 of our 83 counties (7 of 14 districts) The districts Romney won, were all concentrated around Detroit. Now he needs to forego most of those districts and win All of the ones he lost.
I agree and am in shock with the support Obama's getting here these days.
But I disagree with two things you said. They will NOT get their wish because Obama will LOSE.
And they will not be happy, because leftists and the angry right (who meld right in with the left) are never happy.
Proof of that is how angry the left still was between 2008 and 2010 when they had complete control and got their way about everything.
The left cannot be 'happy' because their souls are dead.
I was a Cain supporter, and then Santorum. Never Romney, so don't lie about me, caww.
It's a sign of desperation that you've resorted to complete falsehoods, especially when you know exactly what you're doing.
You may feel safe here in your anonymity, but you've just gone off the deep end, and you'd better be careful because you're not really anonymous.
Are you?
Just about the time I feel this site has no further value or reason for me to click to it’s pages, you go and post something with basis and foundation.
“It’s not how long you were here , so please don’t throw up the sign in date -it means NOTHING!”
Take it as a compliment. Comparing sign-in dates is FR-ese for “I am losing the argument”.
It still is. It's Romney who isn't.
Listen again, JLA: Romney is not now nor has he ever been a conservative. That means it is beyond fair for conservatives to conclude: He WILL NOT be.
And then to oppose him.
Do I care whether uber-liberal A or uber-liberal B has the White House?
Not really. My goal is to see both of them defeated.
Vote GOODE not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil!)
Actually, if you read the entire string of posts between us, this individual very condescendingly and presumptiously tried to tell me what the site, FR, is all about. I simply let him know that I have been here 14 years and understand pretty well what the site is about...which would be obvious to anyone who took a moment to look.
He did not, so I let him know. Nothing wrong or losing in that.
He then threw another tantrum when I pointed it out. Rather than saying, “Oh, excuse me, I see you have been on here a long time and probably know what FR is about...we just disagree on this particular issue,” which I would have been fine with and would have allowed us a better position to rationally and reasonably discuss the other difference.
Instead he took the other course, which I responded to in such a way that he would be aware of experience here...which has no bearing on the other issue. No conceeding defeat or giving in in that, just a straight forward post about the particular issue of understanding what FR is about.
Read the whole exchange if you are inclined. Or not.
She also endorsed Thomas Dewey.
Here's a more fitting analogy than your absurd and inaccurate plugged drain. Your family (the country) is going to be shot in front of you by a squad of riflemen. Your choice is will it be a squad of enemy riflemen or a squad of your own riflemen. If you pick your own you get to be part of the squad.
That is the most stupid statement I have read in awhile..
What the Hell have you been smoking?
I guess you are too stupid to read the whole thing(.and I am terrified that you ratted on me to the boss....wooo scarry)
...I wrote... ...even Newt said it well yesterday....it was a paraphrase of Newt comparing carter and Reagan....
here is the Newt quote....
“As for the presidency, I’m asked sometimes, is Mitt Romney conservative enough?” said Gingrich at a press conference in Arlington, Va., today. “And my answer is simple: compared to Barack Obama? You know this is not a choice between Mitt Romney and Ronald Reagan. This is a choice between Mitt Romney and the most radical, leftist president in American history.”
“If you simply take judges and ask yourself, who are the kind of people Gov. Romney would be inclined to appoint and who are the kind of people we know Barack Obama appoints? The gap is as wide as in any point in American history,” said Gingrich. “I would argue it’s wider than between Reagan and Carter.”
“If you look at Romney’s pledge to cut spending, something which we’re going to cheerfully help him with,”
“So since Michelle Bachmann is such a POS Commie Pinko, who in congress are you able to even tolerate? She has helped promote the cause of freedom as more than anybody there, hurting her forward mobility through the ranks of leadership as a result. You are going to have to realize that they are all going to end up backing the GOP nominee. It is how it has been for time in memoriam.”
Yep. That’s pretty much how it works.
I sense that by election day, we are going to witness almost 100% of the Republicans in Congress — from the RINOiest RINOs to the most conservative Tea-Partiers — give Romney the nod, even if such noddin’ is done “with reservations”.
Those who fail to comprehend this reality are going to end up VERY disgruntled and disillusioned come this autumn.
(BTW, I voted for Newt in my state’s primary, for what good it did...)
I pray to God in Heaven, and intend to work my heart out, to see that Obama is defeated and that we seat a House and Senate that can hold Romney to his promises so that this nation can turn around, away from the abyss that's staring us in the face.
I detail those sentiments on my own site: HERE
God's speed. It is a sad and sorry state of affairs, but one we can turn around if we all pull together at those various levels.
It's been said, and these threads evidence as much ...you get behind Romney you will not change him..."he will change you"..and to hear conservatives move to tactics such as Romneys is beyond unstanding.
I will say ‘fear’ is driving you exactly as it's moving good conservatives who should be able to identify that and the source it's coming from. This is no different than the Obama supporters when he was running. In fact it's worse because you DO know what Romney is!
We are voters, not hostages to “mass appeal”. The Obam/Gop/Democrat push to get Romney in front has succeeded....I could care less who people voted for before....that's history...they're done..... But to jump on the wagon of ABO, which is deliberately and meticulously designed to drive the masses, is insanity! and it's coming from Romney's group and Democrates as well as the GOP.
"Round them up and bring them in"... like one huge cattle drive...the Piper is piping....you choose to listen or not.....
....."A whole lotta Republicans are going to swing left right along with the Party's newest WINNER!... Judging by Romney's record and by the behavior of his core supporters, he is every bit as capable of tyranny and progressivism as Obama,... and rightly move as if he was authorized by Republican voters to be that way....... Romney is arrogant and ruthless. The real Romney is as risky as Obama...
...(Finny)
“..nothing changes and everything Obama has already done becomes permanent ..”
you don’t know that for a fact.
Perfect cartoon.
(You do know that Obama has an enemies' list and will have no restraints if he gets reelected, don't you? And you know there's a pretty good chance that we're all on that list, right?)
Not saying there's going to be mass murder here, but your saying that there is no difference in the level of evil doesn't really stand up to the reality test.
IMHO.......
Amen to that prayer. Your principles put the country first, something an astonishing amount of FReepers neglect to do lately. It would be amusing, if it were not so dangerously pathetic, how many here were willing to allow Bachmann, Newt, etc. run the country, but then turn around and think the same people are far too stupid to understand who else can run the country.
Let me splain. When you knowingly tell a lie, as you did in your last post to me, even though you post under a screen name, the Lord knows you lied. That's not a threat. It's Biblical. None of us is 'anonymous' before God.
Sorry, but once a person has taken liberties with the truth as you did above, the conversation is over. You know that I supported both Cain and Santorum (because you insulted me repeatedly for doing so), and you know I never supported Romney.
SO, barring an apology (public, or private), this conversation, and any in the future between us, is over. Truth is to important to me to waste time in discussions with people who toss it to the wind to 'win' a debate.
Agreed. Well said, onyx.
We ALL need to be in prayer every day for this beloved country of ours. We are in desperate need for revival and a return to the principles on which we were founded.
And thanks for the link. I'll check that out.......after I get some fresh air!
(I pray that you are well, Jeff! You have survived an ordeal that would make most of us crumble. I admire you!)
“I have been here 14 years and understand pretty well what the site is about.”
I’ve been here 14 minutes and have confidence in JR’s mission statement without any individual’s interpretation or regurgitation. Keeps things simpler for us dim-witted n00bs all around. Probably why new people rarely get zotted ;^)
“Read the whole exchange if you are inclined. Or not.”
Not, honestly. If there was anything original Robos could use for argument, it would be headline news on fifty exultant identical threads. If any of you actually come up with something, we’ll know. Truly.
Beautiful day today btw :)
Heck, obama’s Chicago is an example of how his ilk create a irractable one-party corrupt system.
“He isn’t viable at all, that is an delusion. Obama will destroy him in the general.”
Look at it this way:
Romney is going to be the Republican nominee.
He may win, he may lose.
If he loses, that will be the last you hear of him insofar as presidential politics goes.
But if Romney HAD NOT been the nominee this year, he would have been “back again” at a later date, still trying to buy his way into the presidency.
He was always going to be there, until he either won or lost — a Harold Stassen with a fat wallet.
Better to get rid of him sooner, rather than drag it out.
Then again, stranger things have happened — he might just win.
http://www.ontheissues.org/VA/Virgil_Goode.htm
This guy needs more airtime. Conservatives need to rally around the Constitution party, not the GOP
I was a Cain supporter, and then Santorum. Never Romney, so don’t lie about me, caww.
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Yet you are supporting Romney now, so your statement holds no water.
If you want to sell your soul, and vote for a Liberal, go ahead. I am going to vote for a CONSERVATIVE and It ain’t Romney.
I see it as Mussolini versus Lenin. Early social corporatism versus communism.
They were both evil. I would not prefer either.
I agree wth JR’s misison statement too. Glad you are here, though it looks like somewhat more than 14 minutes. Nothing dim-witted about joing and participating in such a forum.
When unfounded personal assertions are made about others, or when individuals condescendingly take to “schooling” others, when it is so easy to check to see if it is well founded, that starts to drift that way, IMHO.
Not so nice a day here. Rain and in the fifties. But we’ll be better by Saturday and winter is over, and spring is on the rise. Got a lot of mowin’ to do.
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