Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 04/29/2012 7:23:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last
To: Kaslin

Sounds like the US.


2 posted on 04/29/2012 7:28:19 AM PDT by gattaca (Great things can be accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit. Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Hunger and cold can be great motivators. End welfare and see how many able bodied people are suddenly able to find work.


3 posted on 04/29/2012 7:28:47 AM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

It is all just a simple vote buying scheme and the tax payers that are paying it are laughed at by the criminal class. (Read: Politicians)


4 posted on 04/29/2012 7:29:03 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Amen


5 posted on 04/29/2012 7:31:27 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
“3. More realistically, we’re dealing with a problem of people who have little if any self-respect,”

Indeed.

Self-esteem they have plenty.

Self-RESPECT, not at all.

After being told how special and wonderful they are, they end up with a thin shell of “ain't-I-the-best” that can crack at the slightest bump.

These self-esteem junkies have no ability to stand on their own merits because they know they have nothing to buttress their claim of self-esteem. Consequently, at the slightest insult or “dis” they have an absolute breakdown. . .all because they expect, no, demand others worship their wonderfulness when they know they ain't that great.

Self-Respect ensures the person's confidence because they know they earned respect from themselves and will not really care what others think.

6 posted on 04/29/2012 7:37:06 AM PDT by Hulka
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

I have seen section eight recipients nearly mob assault the mailman for bring the reparations, I mean, gubmint checks a couple days late.

You have generations of people in the US that have learned how to eke out an existence on govt. handouts, working part time washing cars, picking up scrap, living in hovels that were handed down to them by their forebears that did work, and generally avoiding anything resembling a forty hour work week.

The crash is going to hurt these people very badly, and when it does, look out, because they have no compunctions about taking what isn’t theirs, and having no qualms about using violence to do so.


7 posted on 04/29/2012 7:39:54 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
Europe...*all* of Europe...is on the brink of collapse largely because they're about 10 years ahead of us in the headlong rush toward socialism.
8 posted on 04/29/2012 7:46:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

I have to deal with these ise;ess eaters everyday. Some have had their cards for years. One handed me his card and said “sorry it’s broken in half, but I’ve had it for eleven years”. I wanted to slap him!

They come with cart loads os steaks and shrimp, chips, pop, cakes and cookies. They “proudly” pull out the EBT card to pay. Then they have another load of toys, clothes and household items I would like to have but can’t afford. They pull out a credit card or a $100 bill to pay.

They have nice clothes, hair and nails done, and an enormous attitude when their card doesn’t have enough money on it. They are the fattest poverty stricken people I have ever seen. Many are illegals who have 3 or more children and another on the way. They have wads of fifty and hundred dollar bills in their wallets. The men use the cards and I wonder “how did this illegal man get this card”? Well, his wife/girlfriend gave it to him thanks to their anchor baby, its momma, and liberal ignorance.

The taxpayers are being spit upon even though we contribute, while the thieves prosper off of our hard work.

They say that there is a rape every ten minutes. Yes there is, and the taxpayers are the victims.


9 posted on 04/29/2012 7:49:18 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
NO PITY FOR THE LAZY!!!
10 posted on 04/29/2012 7:59:51 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

The most important lesson in this story is that welfare dependency knows no race nor ethnicity - in the US it’s largely (though not exclusively) blacks and hispanics who fall into the statist trap; in Britain, it’s only taken a generation or two to suck in the lower echelons of the white population.

A dirty little secret of the liberal do-goooders is that they don’t really think blacks can make it on their own, and so they draw much of the minority population into a continual cycle of welfare dependency, all the while congratulating themselves on their compassion. And with the current administration, providing record numbers of people food stamps and never-ending unemployment benefits, it won’t be long before that culture of dependency seeps out of the ghettos, barrios and white-trash trailer parks into much of middle America.


11 posted on 04/29/2012 8:12:52 AM PDT by Stosh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
Unfortunately the more "freebies" you hand out, the more people will show up to claim them. Unless the absurd growth of welfare is checked, and it may already be too late, the economy will be choked to death as there will be more people riding in the wagon and not enough people left to push it.

Think of parasites like worms and ticks. If unchecked, they will ultimately kill the host by literally sucking the lifeblood out of it. Parasites may seem a cruel word to use with respect to our welfare system but it is what it is.

Sad to say, even good people can be destroyed once they enter the welfare system. In the recent economic downturn, I personally know people that lost their jobs that I used to consider honest, hard-working people. But the generous unemployment checks have, I'm sorry to say, corrupted them. One formerly good friend of mine has been out of work for nearly three years and I went over to see him and his wife a few months ago.

It was a sad sight to see. Their once tidy home has been reduced to shambles. Junk and overgrown weeds are in the yard. The home is a dark, dirty place with the shades drawn in the middle of the day with only the light of a couple of TV sets that appear to be perpetually kept on. Yes, they were big screens - recently purchased.

The house was well stocked with food but it was mostly junk. Half empty bags of chips and cookies appears to be everywhere on the filthy kitchen counter and living room coffee table. My friend and his wife basically lies around all day on the couches drinking beer and eating chips while watching TV while dirty dishes pile up in the sink.

It seems lying around the home fosters laziness. People that work 40-60 hrs a week (or more) at fulltime jobs can be seen on weekends running chores, doing yardwork, etc. Their homes and yards are usually kept immaculate. But give them nothing to do all day and everything else falls by the wayside. Now running the laundry and mowing the yard seems like a big hassle once you get used to lounging around all day watching television.

Idleness fosters laziness and it becomes a vicious cycle that utterly destroys the lives of people caught up in it.

The only way we can beat this vicious cycle is to end welfare. Discontinue the EBT cards and rewarding young girls for having babies out of wedlock. Limit unemployment to only a few weeks. Get the federal government and even the state government 100% out of the welfare business. Keep it at the local level.

Once the towns become responsible for any welfare programs, see how fast welfare fraud is eliminated. It's one thing to have people cheating a system that is based in Washington D.C. or in some far-flung state capital that could be hundreds of miles away. But when the town raises your property tax because some freeloaders three houses down from you are cheating the system - well, let's just say that there is nothing like a little peer pressure to get people off their lazy butts.

12 posted on 04/29/2012 8:14:23 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 20 days away from outliving Phil Hartman)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

excellent article
and it could have been written about the USA.
I had no idea how much we give to people on the dole.

it is the same, why would anyone work when they can LIVE off the rest of us.
did you know we give in addition to WIC and food stamps, cash to dolers?
housing either free or nearly free
extra money at the start of every school year, even to anchor babies?
of course in addition to food stamps we give breakfast lunch and after school snacks, in most ataates all year round including saturdays in some
cimputers to school kids
cell phones and 250 mins
some states give cars
and we cover burial costs.

Seriously who would work at a MickeyD’s or Walmart?


14 posted on 04/29/2012 8:29:31 AM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: All

Why does ANYONE even work in the UK????


15 posted on 04/29/2012 8:33:34 AM PDT by jackibutterfly (Life is short. Smile while you still have teeth. :-))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

The problem with cutting benefits in a nutshell:

1. Eventually, someone publishes a picture of a “starving” child or some exaggerated sob story.
2. Women read the picture and get all weepy.
3. Leftist politicians play to to his sentiment to show how “mean” and “heartless” the reformers are (hurting our kids, blah, blah, blah)
4. Weak-kneed conservatives knuckle under and rescind the reforms.
5. Kids grow up just like their Mum and (? Dad).


17 posted on 04/29/2012 8:42:26 AM PDT by rbg81
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
These are people who are so morally twisted that they would rather stay on the dole than work.

There is also a practical reality. If you take the job, and it doesn't pan out, then you have to jump through all the hoops you already jumped through once to get back on the dole. People who have managed to finally get the benefits and housing and income they want from the government aren't going to risk it for a paycheck that they could lose, and then leave them with nothing.

I know people like this. It takes a long time and it takes a lot of patience, even a lot of mentoring, to work the system and get all the benefits. Once you've got them you won't risk them for a job that pays maybe minimum wage which could lay you off tomorrow. They won't do it.

Thats why the only answer is to make the benefits contingent upon going through some vocational training, and then cut them off on date certain.

20 posted on 04/29/2012 9:28:48 AM PDT by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

I watched a TV show about gypsies and one of the couples was in England. The wife living a trailer with her baby. She got tired of that lifestyle and bang, the next time you see here she is in a pretty nice apartment and is telling the show producer where her big screen telly was going to hang.. I mean how does that work? “Hello UK Public Services I want a free apartment for me and my kid. Thank you”


21 posted on 04/29/2012 9:29:17 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

The UK is a perfect audio-visual aid for the kind of socialist welfare state Ubama and the rats want for the US. The welfare crowd is, after all, the Democrat Party “base”. Why wouldn’t the rats want their voter base to be as large as possible? This ain’t rocket surgery.


22 posted on 04/29/2012 9:35:40 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin; All
This article discussing conditions in the United Kingdom remind us that "Ideas Have Consequences" (Weaver). Whether those ideas are in place in the society in the late 1700's or in 2012, when implemented, they have predictable results for those who wish to study and understand them.

Obama and his fellow "redistributionists" don't point that out, for to do so would reveal the scam such politicians run on uninformed citizens. Europe now presents an example of consequences of such thinking, just as it did in the 1700's and 1800's.

The problem with today's Administration in America is that they studied and are devoted to the the ideas of Marx, Lenin, and Keynes when they should have been reading Adam Smith and America's founders. Had they digested the ideas which made America a place of freedom, opportunity, prosperity and plenty, they would know that "the Wealth of Nations" results from the efforts of innovative individuals, as they go about meeting the needs of others, unburdened by coercive planners and choosers of winners and losers.

Coercive "taking" power, when wielded against the citizenry by either the government alone (taxing), or in combination with another power (unions), is destructive of freedom and prosperity and leads to envy, greed, and want.

The following statement by Sir Winston Churchill, upon leaving office as Prime Minister in 1945, was prophetic for Great Britain, and as it turns out, the United States and the world:

"I do not believe in the power of the State to plan and enforce. No matter how numerous are the committees they set up or the ever-growing hordes of officials they employ or the severity of the punishments they inflict or threaten, they can't approach the high level of internal economic production achieved under free enterprise. Personal initiative, competitive selection, and profit motive corrected by failure and the infinite processes of good housekeeping and personal ingenuity, these constitute the life of a free society. It is this vital creative impulse that I deeply fear the doctrines and policies of the socialist government has destroyed. Nothing that they can plan and order and rush around enforcing will take its place. They have broken the main spring and until we get a new one, the watch wil not go. Set the people free. Get out of the way and let them make the best of themselves. I am sure that this policy of equalizing misery and organizing society--instead of allowing diligence, self-interest and ingenuity to produce abundance--has only to be prolonged to kill this British Island stone dead."

In the early days of America's experiment in liberty, its Founders warned of oppressive taxation by those elected to represent the people. Under their "People's" Constitution, the people were left free, and the government was limited.

While Europe struggled with oppressive government intervention, the genius Founders of America recognized enduring truths about human nature, the human tendency to abuse power, and the possibilities of liberty for individuals. Richard Frothingham's 1872 "History of the Rise of the Republic of the United States," Page 14, contained the following footnote item on the condition of citizens of France:

"Footnote 1. M. de Champagny (Dublin Review, April, 1868) says of France, 'We were and are unable to go from Paris to Neuilly; or dine more than twenty together; or have in our portmanteau three copies of the same tract; or lend a book to a friend: or put a patch of mortar on our own house, if it stands in the street; or kill a partridge; or plant a tree near the road-side; or take coal out of our own land: or teach three or four children to read, . .. without permission from the civil government.'"

Clearly the government of France at that 1868 date laid an oppressive regulatory and tax burden on citizens, robbing them of their Creator-endowed liberty and enjoyment thereof. Frothingham observed that such coercive power constituted "a noble form robbed of its lifegiving spirit."

Thomas Jefferson warned Americans:

"To preserve [the] independence [of the people,] we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:39

Note Jefferson's very last thought here. He declares that when government taxing and debt have reached certain levels, in order for individuals to survive, then their chosen "employment" becomes "hiring ourselves to rivet their (the government's) chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers." Might that account for why it is government employment levels which have risen at such great rates in the past 2 years?

Ahhh, guess that's what you call "redistributing" wealth! In Jefferson's words, it's called "rivet(ing) chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers."

23 posted on 04/29/2012 9:43:05 AM PDT by loveliberty2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
Great post, Kaslin!
We should have a post that tells/instructs current and future conservative governors how to break/reduce the dependency on govt services.

Maybe they need some advice from real conservatives!

27 posted on 04/29/2012 10:27:08 AM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Subsidizing poverty gets you more poverty.


30 posted on 04/29/2012 1:28:51 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson