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1 posted on 04/29/2012 5:17:49 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

As long as no one factors in race, we can continue study the question without reaching an answer, thus keeping academics employed.


2 posted on 04/29/2012 5:29:14 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: rellimpank

Another load of ratcrap!


3 posted on 04/29/2012 5:30:01 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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With an Eye Toward Solutions

Simplest solution there is: Repeal all gun laws.

Everyone (with half a brain) already knows -- gun laws do NOTHING to curb crime.

Repeal all gun laws and people who have been considering buying and carrying a weapon would then be encourage to do it; crime would then plummet.

Simple.

Too simple for the power-hungry idiots in office who rule over us....

4 posted on 04/29/2012 5:32:30 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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There is an obvious truth staring them in the face in the differences in the census data between San Diego and Philadelphia, they just don't want to admit it.

Just as they ignore black-on-black murders as they wear hoodies to rallies in support of a judicial lynching of George Zimmerman.

And that pattern holds up in state-level murder rates as well - compare the murder rates of two relatively poor states - Mississippi and West Virginia, as it relates to their census data - and the same pattern holds. Financial poverty is not the problem. Moral poverty is.

The problem is urban thug culture. There is no easy fix such as passing gun laws. But the answer sure as heck isn't the approach taken by Obama, Holder and Sharpton.

5 posted on 04/29/2012 5:34:25 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Chief Flynn recounted pleading with a state senator to include a provision in Wisconsin’s concealed weapons law that would ban habitual criminal offenders from obtaining permits. The senator, he said, told him, “Here’s the phone number of the National Rifle Association lobbyist in Washington, D.C. If it’s O.K. with him, it will be O.K. with us.” The provision was not included, Chief Flynn said.

Straw purchasing, in which a proxy buys guns for convicted felons, is another problem, participants said. Chief Art Acevedo of Austin said his officers regularly observed women buying as many as 30 guns, including semiautomatic weapons, at gun shows and then passing them on to men.

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8 posted on 04/29/2012 5:40:32 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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So long as any culture sees that it’s cool to b a thug, murder will be common and celebrated. Thuggish people get thuggish behavior.


9 posted on 04/29/2012 5:42:03 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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Because Philly is a black-democrap run hell hole and San Diego is not?

Yes... I said it!


10 posted on 04/29/2012 5:42:28 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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How about this for a solution:

Support marriage between one man and one woman, reform “divorce” laws so that it is next to impossible to get one, support monogamy and get sex off the street, television and the billboards, legalize drugs so if people want to anesthetize themselves to death they can do so without supporting a huge law enforcement, prison, legal system; bring back prayer in schools; support mothers staying at home with their children.


12 posted on 04/29/2012 5:44:36 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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In many cases, the victims of the crimes resembled the perpetrators. During the week in Philadelphia, for example, a 20-year-old woman known as Peanut who had five prior criminal convictions and arrests stretching back to the age of 13, was responsible for two shootings on two different days. Her second victim, shot 16 times, was a drug dealer who is now in a wheelchair but refused to cooperate with the police.

Peanut needs a better gun.

These police chiefs refuse to state the obvious, ghetto black on black crime is a direct result of the breakup of the family.

When the brothas refer to each other as "niggas, and their women as hos and bitches", when there is a real reason the most famous two words to come from the ghetto are, "mother-f888er", how can anyone expect respect for the life of human beings.

They live and act the same as wild predators, the law of the jungle applies but even the strong can't survive in a situation without any rules.

Even with the high abortion rates {thanks to planned parenthood and their part in this self inflicted genocide}, the ghetto reproduction rate is 75% bastard births.

With this kind of demonRAT imposed slavery, the blacks have no chance for any kind of normal life without murder and chaos being a daily part of it.

Margaret Sanger is cooking away in hell, but proud as can be about her gift to the world.

19 posted on 04/29/2012 6:17:57 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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In a single week last April, 3 people were killed with guns in Philadelphia, 14 more were shot and wounded, 68 robberies were carried out at gunpoint and a total of 144 crimes involving firearms were reported. During that same week in San Diego, a city of roughly the same size with far fewer police officers, there were no gun-related homicides, 2 people wounded by gunshots, 4 robberies committed at gunpoint and a total of only 20 gun-related crimes.

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania = 43.4% black.

San Diego County, California = 5.1% black.

Next question?

22 posted on 04/29/2012 6:35:20 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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gun violence is tightly concentrated in the poorest urban neighborhoods, its victims mostly minorities

Better description: "gun violence is tightly concentrated in urban neighborhoods with disfunctional families, its perpetrators mostly minorities

23 posted on 04/29/2012 6:48:30 AM PDT by expat2
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Gee, what could explain any differences between Philly and San Diego? It’s just a total mystery.


25 posted on 04/29/2012 6:55:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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They should try encouraging Christianity, it works every time.


30 posted on 04/29/2012 8:11:00 AM PDT by donna (...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way... -Mitt Romney)
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Here's a good solution.

....The town north of Atlanta [Kennesaw] had little prominence until it passed a gun ordinance in 1982 that required all heads of a household to own a firearm and ammunition...."When the law was passed in 1982 there was a substantial drop in crime ... and we have maintained a really low crime rate since then," said police Lt. Craig Graydon. "We are sure it is one of the lowest (crime) towns in the metro area."....The Kennesaw law has endured as the town's population has swelled to about 30,000 from 5,000 in 1982.
31 posted on 04/29/2012 8:59:43 AM PDT by caveat emptor (Zippity Do Dah)
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Surprising enough the article does speak to the problem of black on black crime as to being the difference in stats...


32 posted on 04/29/2012 10:11:01 AM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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city as of 2010 was:
44.2% Black
39.0% White
Census of 2010,
58.9% White,
6.7% African American

There. Discovered the answer in 8 minutes at a cost of Zero Tax Dollars
You decide which city is which but these numbers provide the answer to the question!


34 posted on 04/29/2012 10:30:25 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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It happens every single day in cities across the country, but if it’s a black killing a black,” no one cares...

No one cares when it's black on black crime because there's no one to shake down for cash from guilty white liberals. Jesse Jackson will not show up. None of the circus members will be there - no cash to be had. No free press from a white liberal elite press - a press that hates conservative white middle class citizens... A press that will send every member available IF a white kills a black...

Black on black crime doesn't open liberal white wallets.

There no benefit for higher voter turn out based on an angry black community when it's black on black. Inner city organizations based on hatred of whites - and blaming them for all 'wrongs' have no payoff standing against black on black crime - they want it ignored...

Black on black crime doesn't allow for white liberal elites to grandstand their 'protection' of blacks... In short, when a black child dies at the hands of a black thug, the only person who cares is the child's mother.

Inner city killing can't be stopped with 'gun control' because a person who will ignore the laws about murder will surely ignore the laws about gun ownership.

35 posted on 04/29/2012 10:32:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (Obama's father, grandfather and great-grandfather were polygamists.-ALL,including Obama ate dogs!!)
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In Philadelphia there have been black racist mobs attacking whites. The brains of justice in this city decided these were not hate crimes - just yutes having fun. In criminal justice, you can not arrive at vaild solutions if you can not tell the truth about the problem.

Most criminal gun violence is centered in a certain population as a result of that group’s culture of violence and racism’s hate, resentment and rage. You can not deny everyone their second amendment rights because you have one group that consistently abuses that right.

You put the criminals in jail and you leave everyone else alone. You address that group with mentors and people who can make a difference in the fatherless welfare culture of that group to live like free people with rights and responsibility. Taking on entertainment and diversity hate industries and clearing out gangs would go a long way to reducing gun violence that Phili suffers.


37 posted on 04/29/2012 10:54:35 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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