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Denial ain't just a river in Egypt - Republican conservatives can't handle the truth about Romney
Tom Hoefling for President 2012 ^ | April 27, 2012 | Tom Hoefling

Posted on 04/27/2012 6:57:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: D-fendr

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241 posted on 04/28/2012 4:51:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I got it straight from the horse’s mouth...


242 posted on 04/28/2012 4:53:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: EternalVigilance

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243 posted on 04/28/2012 4:55:52 AM PDT by sport
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To: Clintonfatigued
I still haven’t given up on a brokered convention.

AMEN!

It's along way to Nov 6th.

244 posted on 04/28/2012 4:57:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: D-fendr

245 posted on 04/28/2012 4:58:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: D-fendr

246 posted on 04/28/2012 4:58:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: CatherineofAragon; Jim Robinson
Funny how we as conservatives love talking about God, but when it comes down to a hard, unpopular decision, suddenly standing with Him becomes “naive”, a “fantasy.” That’s very interesting to me. You’re free to align yourself with an abortionist-homosexual lover. Don’t try to tell me I must,

I don't know why I haven't thought of it before now, but reading your post suddenly reminded me of all those Conservative Christians who signed the Manhatten Declaration -A Call for Christian Conscience who are now endorsing Romney for President. So far as I know Jim Robinson is the only national leader who stuck to his guns.

247 posted on 04/28/2012 5:05:18 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: .30Carbine
the Manhatten Declaration

Personally, I rejected that document, first and foremost because it contained a blatant lie about how "gay marriage" was instituted in Massachusetts.

Besides, the PR flack running the whole thing was and is a major Romney funder and supporter. It appears to me that all they were doing was collecting names for the Romney lists.

248 posted on 04/28/2012 5:12:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: Elsie

>>Why is that?<<

Because the rude, sarcastic, unChristian posts from you and the rest of the “flying imams” are classless and make me regurgitate my breakfast. I like my breakfast and want to keep it.

Most of you, I have blocked. You, however can be clever on other threads so I just ignore your Anti-Mormon delight.


249 posted on 04/28/2012 5:12:33 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: EternalVigilance
Our system was not set up as a party system. In fact, George Washington spoke out strongly against such a thing - as he was going out the door, as a final warning to the country he loved.

This of course, has become a truism; a cliché. No matter what Washington said then, we live in a Two-Party System now, and indeed have since 1860 and earlier. How do you propose to end it?

The "independent" voters have been chanting the mantra for years. "I vote for the man, not the party!" Of course, those who are elected by taking the "independent" vote immediately join with, support, and vote with a political party ... usually the Democrat Party!

Washington's Constitution has been amended. For instance the runner-up in national elections no longer becomes VP. Senators are popularly elected (One of the great tragedies of the Constitutional History of the country, IMNSVHO)

I think also that it is too easy for the anti-Obama camps to merely tell us how bad Obama is, w/o offering their own tactical PROGRAM, and the PLAN to IMPLEMENT IT, and the LEADERSHIP necessary to get agreement to it. This is true of EVERY candidate so far, and you are no exception.

So, while I may agree with your ideological platform, I find it far from pragmatic. You are nobly seeking Leadership by offering systemic reform in one election. But the first challenge is getting elected without a Program and Plan. In fact, this is one election removed from the 53% victory of the Democrats with Obama, and they still hold the Senate.

250 posted on 04/28/2012 5:14:27 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: EternalVigilance
Your belief that one candidate’s obvious bad traits justify voting for another candidate with obviously bad traits, illustrates mine.

I'm not sure there is a candidate without some bad traits. My point here is we vary greatly on the difference between Romney and Obama. I believe, with the right congress, we undo some of the great harm of Obama and avoid even greater harm. That's a 'good' thing.

:)

251 posted on 04/28/2012 5:14:45 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
.....red herring argument

Ross Perot. The Man Who Gave Us The Clintons. He red and smelly enough for you?

252 posted on 04/28/2012 5:17:30 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: EternalVigilance

We have a choice of evil or evil. Wake up AMERICA!


253 posted on 04/28/2012 5:18:46 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: EternalVigilance
A distinction without a difference.

I disagree. Voting for candidates based on their relative merits and demerits has nothing to do with self-evident truths, absolute values - moral relativism. Nor is it anti-reason.

254 posted on 04/28/2012 5:19:02 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: .30Carbine
Try again -

Manhatten Declaration - A Call for Christian Conscience

255 posted on 04/28/2012 5:20:46 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: EternalVigilance
I do not believe this free republic can possibly be saved until

Again, we agree on goals, we differ on strategy and tactics. I don't think your efforts are wise or further our shared goals.

Nutritionally you are what you eat.

The republic can't stomach another helping of Obama pie.

thanks for your replies.

256 posted on 04/28/2012 5:21:45 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: NonValueAdded
I would liken it to more like a rebellion. But none-the-less the GOP-e will soldier on with the ordianaton of Romney.

This begs the quuestion of "Why"? I came to the conclusion that it is to destroy the Conservative movement in the Republican Party. Again, why? Because the Republican Elite hate Conservatives more than the Democrats hate Republicans [The Democrats do not differentiate between sects of Republicans, they hate them all equally] The Elite Republicans have deluded themselves into believeing that if they would only divest themselves of the pesky Conservatives, the Democrats would love them once more.

Therefore, they devised a plan that will, in their minds at least, bring that to fruitation. The plan? Eliminate the Conservative candidates and anoint the most unelectable one of their own ot oppose obama. With the slogan[s], "It is time to unite behind one candidate", "It is our guy or obama". And this guilt trip goes out to the Conservatives, "If you do not vote for our guy and obama wins, it will be your fault if obama wins".

As evidenced by this forum, it is working. But,come what may, I will not vote for their man. But, I understand that there are those what will as they rationalize why they will to themselves.

257 posted on 04/28/2012 5:21:54 AM PDT by sport
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To: D-fendr

Well, some of us have some non-negotiables.

Romney Republicans don’t. Abject fear overrides everything else.


258 posted on 04/28/2012 5:24:09 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: bmwcyle
We have a choice of evil or evil. Wake up AMERICA!

God never leaves His people in a position where they must do evil. Ever.

259 posted on 04/28/2012 5:25:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: D-fendr
I believe, with the right congress, we undo some of the great harm of Obama and avoid even greater harm.

The problem is, you're now going to have a Congress full of Obama Democrats and Romney Republicans.

That's the fruit of your actions.

260 posted on 04/28/2012 5:27:48 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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