Also, from a legal standpoint and as I understand it, SYG isn't even applicable here, since George Zimmerman was on his back getting thumped, and in that situation any "duty to retreat" is obviously moot since you can't retreat.
Posted on 04/25/2012 5:38:36 AM PDT by marktwain
I'm confused by this writer. Unless bouncing someone's head off a sidewalk is a new game, it will definitely cause great bodily harm.
...damn straight...the law gives Floridians one more way to protect themselves from people like Trayvon Martin.
I wonder how much the home burglaries have decreased in the neighborhood since poor wittle waif Trayvon has assumed room temp?
This Floridian supports the Stand Your Ground law.
I'm afraid a lot of people would sacrifice Zimmerman to avoid riots.
..GET A ROPE!
or a log chain and a pickup
I do.
“Stand your ground” doesn’t go far enough.
I’d like to see a law saying that you can pursue with deadly force. The police sure won’t help you.
Four months ago, my daughter had her home broken into and all her valuables (cash, computers, TVs, guns, a few pieces of furniture, etc.) taken. She got there in time to see the thief’s pickup truck pulling away and she followed the thief back to his home. With the pickup in his driveway, she called the cops and told the cops that she was parked outside of the thief’s house and that her possessions were in plain sight and in the pickup. The cops told her that since nobody was hurt, it was an insurance problem not a police problem and she should just go home and file an insurance claim. (Nevada)
yet another great Democrat Astroturf Stunt is blowing up in their faces
“Four months ago, my daughter had her home broken into and all her valuables (cash, computers, TVs, guns, a few pieces of furniture, etc.) taken. She got there in time to see the thief’s pickup truck pulling away and she followed the thief back to his home. With the pickup in his driveway, she called the cops and told the cops that she was parked outside of the thief’s house and that her possessions were in plain sight and in the pickup. The cops told her that since nobody was hurt, it was an insurance problem not a police problem and she should just go home and file an insurance claim. (Nevada)”
OUTRAGEOUS! We actually had something quite similar happen to us. A bunch of our stuff found in a stolen car parked at Cabrini Green in downtown Chicago. The police called the owner of the car (who was a neighbor of ours) and told her to come get the car. She found all the stolen stuff in it and refused to take the car until all the stolen goods were returned to the rightful owner. Cops just wanted her to take her car with all the stuff in it! They couldn’t be bothered! And then they wonder why police are getting an AWFUL reputation as slugs!
It remains to be seen if SYG will even be the defense for GZ.
I’m thinking not - just simple self-defense as TM had him pinned to the ground, he could not get away, and was in reasonable fear of serious or even fatal injury. Maybe there was a fight over the gun - maybe not. Either way he had the right of self-defense.
That says it all.
Also, from a legal standpoint and as I understand it, SYG isn't even applicable here, since George Zimmerman was on his back getting thumped, and in that situation any "duty to retreat" is obviously moot since you can't retreat.
As they should.
AND--I would be extremely reluctant to approach any house--especially a stranger's house--at night and would be careful anytime.
Not long ago, in a rural area, I got lost in the woods. Night fell.
I had no choice but to cross a stranger's land to reach the road.
As I walked down his long driveway, a car approached, obviously the owner coming home.
The car slowed as it approached me.
I was very, very, very careful to keep my hands exposed, to stay in the headlights, and to do nothing threatening.
The man stopped. His boy was in the car with him.
As soon as he rolled down his window, I said in my most polite manner: "I'm sorry. I got lost in the woods, and I'm trying to get back to the road."
It helped that I was walking away from his house.
He relaxed and told me to proceed.
It is true that I am white and have a sophisticated, educated accent. But even so--I was very, very, very careful. I couldn't help wondering later how it might have been had I been otherwise.
My advice to anyone who finds himself in such circumstances--especially if not white and not having a sophisticated, educated accent--is (1) to avoid any such circumstances if at all possible and (2) to be very, very, very, very, very careful if you can't. Never mind being right. Be safe!
I understand the arguments against the castle doctrine, but self-defense--especially as our world becomes more and more dangerous--trumps them.
Those in support of SYG are smart enough to imagine themselves or their loved ones in a situation in which they desperately need SYG.
Those who oppose SYG can only imagine other people using SYG to defend themselves, and they do not want them to be able to defend themselves. This implies that they either: want to oppress and control others, and/or want to protect those who want to oppress and control others, and/or are so terrified of unexpected loud noises that they are frightened to death from the very existence of guns in the world.
Do not forget ignorance or misinformation. Most of those who oppose SYG believe what they have been told by the MSM. They have been told that SYG means that people who get a concealed carry permit have a license to kill anyone they want at any time. That is what has been put forward, for the most part, by the MSM.
Most of these misinformed people would support SYG if they knew the facts.
I wonder if they had fingerprints from previous burglaries in the area that might match Trayvon’s.
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