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The power of the MSM to distribute lies and to shape the debate is amazing. Fortunately, the new media allows the truth to slowly get out.
1 posted on 04/25/2012 5:38:40 AM PDT by marktwain
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The actual law of Florida is that “a person is justified in the use of deadly force” if “(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself

I'm confused by this writer. Unless bouncing someone's head off a sidewalk is a new game, it will definitely cause great bodily harm.

2 posted on 04/25/2012 5:46:37 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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Floridians back “Stand Your Ground” law

...damn straight...the law gives Floridians one more way to protect themselves from people like Trayvon Martin.

I wonder how much the home burglaries have decreased in the neighborhood since poor wittle waif Trayvon has assumed room temp?

3 posted on 04/25/2012 5:47:15 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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This Floridian supports the Stand Your Ground law.


4 posted on 04/25/2012 5:48:51 AM PDT by jch10
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A lot of speculation going on.

I'm afraid a lot of people would sacrifice Zimmerman to avoid riots.

5 posted on 04/25/2012 5:49:42 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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While I have no opinion on Zimmerman’s guilt or innocence in the case at this point

I do.

8 posted on 04/25/2012 6:01:39 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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So if we do not have a stand your ground law then when I were to get charged with anything I have the right to assault the police and the Judge in court?
9 posted on 04/25/2012 6:01:49 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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“Stand your ground” doesn’t go far enough.
I’d like to see a law saying that you can pursue with deadly force. The police sure won’t help you.
Four months ago, my daughter had her home broken into and all her valuables (cash, computers, TVs, guns, a few pieces of furniture, etc.) taken. She got there in time to see the thief’s pickup truck pulling away and she followed the thief back to his home. With the pickup in his driveway, she called the cops and told the cops that she was parked outside of the thief’s house and that her possessions were in plain sight and in the pickup. The cops told her that since nobody was hurt, it was an insurance problem not a police problem and she should just go home and file an insurance claim. (Nevada)


10 posted on 04/25/2012 6:30:26 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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yet another great Democrat Astroturf Stunt is blowing up in their faces


11 posted on 04/25/2012 6:49:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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It remains to be seen if SYG will even be the defense for GZ.

I’m thinking not - just simple self-defense as TM had him pinned to the ground, he could not get away, and was in reasonable fear of serious or even fatal injury. Maybe there was a fight over the gun - maybe not. Either way he had the right of self-defense.


13 posted on 04/25/2012 7:39:45 AM PDT by expat1000
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… Detached reflection cannot be demanded in the presence of an uplifted knife”

That says it all.

14 posted on 04/25/2012 7:41:28 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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The freedom-hating leftmedia has been, quite predictably, short-stroking this whole episode as a foil against SYG laws since the beginning. Ironically, it is precisely because the law-abiding are facing more and more physical hostility of the manner exhibited by Trayvon Martin that such laws were enacted. Coincidence? I think not.

Also, from a legal standpoint and as I understand it, SYG isn't even applicable here, since George Zimmerman was on his back getting thumped, and in that situation any "duty to retreat" is obviously moot since you can't retreat.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

15 posted on 04/25/2012 7:44:31 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Floridians back “Stand Your Ground” law

As they should.

16 posted on 04/25/2012 7:51:07 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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I strongly support the castle doctrine, "stand your ground" laws. It is a fundamental human right to protect self and family.

AND--I would be extremely reluctant to approach any house--especially a stranger's house--at night and would be careful anytime.

Not long ago, in a rural area, I got lost in the woods. Night fell.

I had no choice but to cross a stranger's land to reach the road.

As I walked down his long driveway, a car approached, obviously the owner coming home.

The car slowed as it approached me.

I was very, very, very careful to keep my hands exposed, to stay in the headlights, and to do nothing threatening.

The man stopped. His boy was in the car with him.

As soon as he rolled down his window, I said in my most polite manner: "I'm sorry. I got lost in the woods, and I'm trying to get back to the road."

It helped that I was walking away from his house.

He relaxed and told me to proceed.

It is true that I am white and have a sophisticated, educated accent. But even so--I was very, very, very careful. I couldn't help wondering later how it might have been had I been otherwise.

My advice to anyone who finds himself in such circumstances--especially if not white and not having a sophisticated, educated accent--is (1) to avoid any such circumstances if at all possible and (2) to be very, very, very, very, very careful if you can't. Never mind being right. Be safe!

I understand the arguments against the castle doctrine, but self-defense--especially as our world becomes more and more dangerous--trumps them.

17 posted on 04/25/2012 7:53:01 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Nothing is more enlightening than truth. Nothing is darker than mendacity.)
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Those in support of SYG are smart enough to imagine themselves or their loved ones in a situation in which they desperately need SYG.

Those who oppose SYG can only imagine other people using SYG to defend themselves, and they do not want them to be able to defend themselves. This implies that they either: want to oppress and control others, and/or want to protect those who want to oppress and control others, and/or are so terrified of unexpected loud noises that they are frightened to death from the very existence of guns in the world.


18 posted on 04/25/2012 8:07:04 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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Stand Your Ground








I am a widow and live alone. I DEMAND the right to defend myself.



ML/LTOS
(El Kabong)

33 posted on 04/25/2012 11:21:46 AM PDT by left that other site
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Personally, I don't need a ‘law’ to allow me to defend myself when I believe my and/or my family's life is in danger.
36 posted on 04/25/2012 1:05:39 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; spend money only with those who support traditional American values.)
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Whitey can defend himself?


43 posted on 04/25/2012 4:06:04 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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