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Beating of Alabama man not seen as hate crime, despite claim 'Trayvon' invoked
foxnews.com ^ | 04/24/2012 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 04/24/2012 1:07:41 PM PDT by massmike

A racially charged beating of a white Alabama man by a throng of African-Americans is not being investigated as a hate crime, despite one witness' claim that she heard an assailant exclaim: "Now that's justice for Trayvon."

Matthew Owens, of Mobile, Ala., was assaulted with baseball bats, paint cans and other weapons at about 8:30 p.m. Saturday after telling a group of children to stop playing basketball in the middle of Delmar Drive, according to Ashley Rains, public information officer for the Mobile Police Department.

After the children left the area, a group of adults armed with weapons returned and confronted Owens, 40, in his front yard, where he was assaulted. Owens' sister, Ashley Parker, told WKRG she witnessed the attack and that there were as many as 20 assailants. Parker said she overheard one of them say, "Now that's justice for Trayvon."

Asked if the incident was being investigated as a hate crime, Rains replied: "No, it's not. It's being investigated as an assault."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: blackonwhitecrime; chimpout; hatecrime; justicefortrayvon; justicefortrayvoninc; matthewowens; odinga; trayvonmob; trayvonrevenge
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To: John O
The new rule for white people. Shoot first, shoot often, reload and shoot again. Then when there are no thugs left standing, ask questions.

...or just get out of there, because even if it is a justified shooting, you will be railroaded like Zimmerman.

This will not end well for anyone.

41 posted on 04/24/2012 2:41:33 PM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: robowombat
"...the mob as consisting of approximately 20 African-American adults who attacked Owens on the front porch of his house."

Had this been my house I doubt half that number would even had made it to the porch. Those unlucky ones in the first wave would be dead or at least suffering from acute lead poisoning while the rest of the crew would be scattering like cats after witnessing their comrades dropping like sacks of potatoes.

"That white boy gotta lotta guns yo!"

"So does his wife and daughter, yo!"
42 posted on 04/24/2012 2:45:06 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: John O

“Do the blacks not realize that they have now given every white person reason to fear for their lives whenever a black person is approaching them?”

Didn’t Obama say something to that effect during the campaign about his WHITE grandmother..was he talking about the past or “priming the pump” for the future?


43 posted on 04/24/2012 2:49:27 PM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: chris37

Thanks.... did a quick google and google news search and nothing on a Treyvon toxicology (drugs) report from the autopsy so.....still DEVELOPING and has not come in yet


44 posted on 04/24/2012 2:53:00 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: robowombat

“20 African-American adults who attacked Owens on the front porch of his house.”

Owens was on his own porch.


45 posted on 04/24/2012 2:53:14 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Envisioning
...or just get out of there, because even if it is a justified shooting, you will be railroaded like Zimmerman.

I no longer care. If enough George Zimmermans happen, they will get the message.

46 posted on 04/24/2012 2:53:50 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: Lazamataz
I no longer care. If enough George Zimmermans happen, they will get the message.

You really think they will? I don't.

I will not take a beat-down for being white and I will not go to jail for being right.

47 posted on 04/24/2012 3:02:05 PM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: P-Marlowe
We need to just eliminate all “hate crime” legislation. All it does is inject politics into the justice system.

Exactly - that's why they were created.

I'd like to see these laws challenged on 14th Amendment grounds, since it's obviously that they're not being applied equally.

48 posted on 04/24/2012 3:02:27 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Lazamataz
(Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)

Oh yea, sorry you can't hit it anymore. LOL!

49 posted on 04/24/2012 3:04:13 PM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: chris37

I like that....feral.

I guess the only thing you could do is fire a round off in the air and hope like hell they run. Otherwise are we supposed to look out the window and watch someone get beaten to death? I know in Texas if someone is breaking into your neighbor’s house you can use deadly force. It was done a few years ago and the old man who killed two Mexicans was not charged. So I’m sure you could use deadly force if your neighbor was being killed. Just make sure you got plenty of ammo and be prepared to stand 24 hour guard as long as you live there. Sad situation, huh.


50 posted on 04/24/2012 3:13:45 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Terry Mross

I heard on Laura Ingraham’s show today that neighbors saw this happen but are afraid to give any details to the police. They think if they do that they will be next in line for a beating.

I’d tell everything and carry a gun. Of course if I saw it happening there would probably be several dead youths.


51 posted on 04/24/2012 3:17:56 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Just because someone thinks it's a good idea doesn't make it legal.)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL at the Admins.
I somehow have managed to avoid their wrath.
13 years.


52 posted on 04/24/2012 3:18:31 PM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: massmike

Even as we speak I know “60 Minutes” has called back Mike Wallace from the dead for a special presentation on how the “Negroes Righteously Sacrificed and Assaulted Numerous Caucasians in Their Quest for Well Deserved Reparations”, (Monetarily of course)


53 posted on 04/24/2012 3:23:48 PM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: Terry Mross

It’s a terribly sad situation, Terry.

I believe that under stand your ground laws one could use deadly force in that situation because another person’s life is in clear danger, but I don’t want to test my freedom and financial well being considering our current administration.

Furthermore, if one did fire on them, no doubt some would survive, they would sue, and they would likely seek revenge.

Also, firing a round or two into the air could kill an innocent person, and so could firing into the ground, because occassionally a bullet can ricochet off the ground instead of penetrating it.

The only course of action I can see at this time is to avoid black people at all costs.

Race relations are not only damaged now, they are poisoned.


54 posted on 04/24/2012 3:24:55 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: kempster

I wonder if a local prosecutor can ‘refer’ a case for possible “hate crime” charges. Those would be federal charges that require a federal prosecutor to charge. Eric Holder is not going to bring a case against “his people.” But then even Republican A-G’s failed to bring cases in the past.


55 posted on 04/24/2012 3:29:20 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: massmike

after telling a group of children to stop playing basketball in the middle of Delmar Drive,


Bet on racism accusations being made against him for that.


56 posted on 04/24/2012 3:30:55 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: cuban leaf
So, why did they assault him, anyway?

He must have "dissed" the neighborhood kids playing baskeball on his street thereby hurting their self-esteem. That calls for an 'automatic' beat down. Trayvon attempted to deliver one, he just picked the wrong guy. This crowd found a softer target.

57 posted on 04/24/2012 3:34:46 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: robowombat
...reflecting the current climate of inter-ethic tension

Nice job, President Healer.

58 posted on 04/24/2012 3:36:38 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: massmike

Owens’ sister, Ashley Parker, told WKRG she witnessed the attack and that there were as many as 20 assailants. Parker said she overheard one of them say, “Now that’s justice for Trayvon.”


Yes, if 20 whites beat on a black, no matter for what reason, it would be considered a hate crime, even if no words were said. But if the black persons sister said one of the attackers said something racist, would we believe her? Or disregard what she says because she was his sister?


59 posted on 04/24/2012 3:41:08 PM PDT by chessplayer
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Two things....one, I’ve got a car I want to sell and I’m afraid to put a “for sale” sign on the car. All I’d be doing is inviting a home invasion.

Several years ago I was trying to sell a house for a builder. It was the last house for sell on the cul de sac. On weekends a bunch of blacks would set up a portable goal and be in front of the house playing b-ball. There was no way you were going to sell that house. I don’t know if they ever sold it.


60 posted on 04/24/2012 3:45:04 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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