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Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers (Sunspot activity resembles the Maunder Minimum.)
The Asahi Shimbun ^
| April 20, 2012
| SEIJI TANAKA
Posted on 04/22/2012 4:05:43 PM PDT by neverdem
The sun may be entering a period of reduced activity that could result in lower temperatures on Earth, according to Japanese researchers.
Officials of the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan and the Riken research foundation said on April 19 that the activity of sunspots appeared to resemble a 70-year period in the 17th century in which Londons Thames froze over and cherry blossoms bloomed later than usual in Kyoto.
In that era, known as the Maunder Minimum, temperatures are estimated to have been about 2.5 degrees lower than in the second half of the 20th century.
The Japanese study found that the trend of current sunspot activity is similar to records from that period.
The researchers also found signs of unusual magnetic changes in the sun. Normally, the suns magnetic field flips about once every 11 years. In 2001, the suns magnetic north pole, which was in the northern hemisphere, flipped to the south.
While scientists had predicted that the next flip would begin from May 2013, the solar observation satellite Hinode found that the north pole of the sun had started flipping about a year earlier than expected. There was no noticeable change in the south pole.
If that trend continues, the north pole could complete its flip in May 2012 but create a four-pole magnetic structure in the sun, with two new poles created in the vicinity of the equator of our closest star.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; maunderminimum
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posted on
04/22/2012 4:05:55 PM PDT
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
Note in the replies that of the poor English cleric near the top.
2
posted on
04/22/2012 4:09:44 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: neverdem
Czcibor,Czeslaw,Dariusz & Grzegorz???
3
posted on
04/22/2012 4:12:47 PM PDT
by
pricilla
(one should always try to be smarter than the equipment one is operating - Amajato)
To: neverdem

How bad can it be?
To: neverdem
Keep your tires inflated - that should ward off any ill effects.
To: neverdem
To: SunkenCiv
7
posted on
04/22/2012 4:20:10 PM PDT
by
KoRn
(Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
To: neverdem
8
posted on
04/22/2012 4:28:19 PM PDT
by
P.O.E.
(Pray for America)
To: pricilla
Czcibor,Czeslaw,Dariusz & Grzegorz???
Those darned Poles. Didn’t they join the Kyoto Accord thingamabob?
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posted on
04/22/2012 4:32:46 PM PDT
by
Dartman
To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Don’t forget to get a tune-up too!
10
posted on
04/22/2012 4:34:24 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
To: neverdem
11
posted on
04/22/2012 4:34:24 PM PDT
by
CrazyIvan
(Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
To: neverdem
Well, then, thank goodness for global warming, eh?
To: neverdem
The sun is a tangled magnetic mass of multiple poles.
13
posted on
04/22/2012 4:40:56 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: neverdem
Solar cycle 24 has definitely been doing odd things. It’s looking more and more like it’s going to be a shallow cycle. Not Maunder minimum (where sunspot activity ceased for decades), but maybe a Dalton-type Minimum.
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posted on
04/22/2012 4:45:14 PM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
To: neverdem
cherry blossoms bloomed later than usual in Kyoto. four-pole magnetic structureWhy not n+1 poles
an infinite number of poles
15
posted on
04/22/2012 4:47:18 PM PDT
by
Calusa
(The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
To: cripplecreek
>>The sun is a tangled magnetic mass of multiple poles.
Just like Warsaw.
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posted on
04/22/2012 4:56:19 PM PDT
by
struggle
(http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
To: struggle
You’ll find a mass of poles at any Catholic church in Warsaw.
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:00:19 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: neverdem
Who do these clowns think they are?
The scientific consensus is that CO2 heats the earth, not the sun.
Get with the program, you idiots.
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:00:38 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Do I really need a sarcasm tag? You're really that dense? Really?)
To: neverdem
%%
It’s just another mimic Maunder
Pole moves on the Sun there
Cause our rain & thunder
So we don’t have to wonder,
It’s just another mimic Maunder...
%%
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:01:34 PM PDT
by
mikrofon
(Mangled Bangles)
To: cripplecreek
If nobama had a sun, it would look like this.
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:03:30 PM PDT
by
hal ogen
(First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
To: neverdem
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:04:20 PM PDT
by
Bubba_Leroy
(The Obamanation Continues)
To: P.O.E.
Isn’t 3rd from the left Thaddeus Kosciuzsko?
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:05:34 PM PDT
by
onedoug
To: neverdem
We're all gonna DIE!!!
To: mikrofon
That’s funny. Gonna show it to Mr. Married21.
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:09:57 PM PDT
by
married21
(As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
To: neverdem
Officials of the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan and the Riken research foundation said on April 19 that the activity of sunspots appeared to resemble a 70-year period in the 17th century in which Londons Thames froze over and cherry blossoms bloomed later than usual in Kyoto.
To: onedoug
3rd from the left is Thaddeus Kosciuzsko?
I thought it was Michael Jackson.
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:12:11 PM PDT
by
married21
(As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
To: P.O.E.
They landed at night.
Did you know the Sun burns more energy in one second than mankind has spent since the first democaveman found fire in a lightning-struck tree and took it back to his fellow hominids?
I either read that somewhere, or just made it up.
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:14:23 PM PDT
by
tumblindice
(Our new, happy lives.)
To: COBOL2Java
LOL! Where did you find that algore cartoon, it is hilarious!
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:16:46 PM PDT
by
Ditter
To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
No, it’s just the opposite. We need to lower the tire pressure and everyone buy an SUV. We need some warmin’ goin’ on.
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:19:07 PM PDT
by
Terry Mross
("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, FAMILY GUY)
To: Ditter
Did a search on “algore frozen”. :-)
To: neverdem
Well, I can't get that part with the reader comment to load. The guy says that solar activity doesn't account for warming. I wanted to respond with, "For the claim that the sun can't account for warming: "What is the difference between average daytime and nighttime temperatures during any particular season and similar meteorological conditions and what is the causal factor most responsible for making that difference?"
Okay, so we can posit the sun as being responsible for over 30 degree shifts of temperature in the course of 24 hours (or 90 degrees over the course of a Martian day) but we can't posit that changes in solar output could be responsible for changes of fractions of a degree up or down in global temperature averages over the course of a century? One degree F over the course of about a century (1880 to 1998) is about 3% of the change in temperature that is normally seen over the course of a day. And when we see the same phenomenon occurring on several different planets, the cause on all isn't going to be due to unique conditions on one.
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:23:28 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: neverdem
“Al Gore...Mr Al Gore...please pick up the white courtesy phone.”
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:30:11 PM PDT
by
Don Corleone
("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
To: COBOL2Java
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:32:01 PM PDT
by
Semper911
(When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
To: COBOL2Java
I want to send it to all the greenies on my email list. Their hero has fallen.
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posted on
04/22/2012 5:33:51 PM PDT
by
Ditter
To: mikrofon
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posted on
04/22/2012 6:02:15 PM PDT
by
crghill
(Silly Mormons, God is triune.)
To: cripplecreek
The sun is a tangled magnetic mass of multiple poles.
So are they lying in this article about a change in a normal pattern of two poles on the sun to four and this claim is not real? ‘Splain it to me, please.
To: neverdem
The sun may be entering a period of reduced activity that could result in lower temperatures on Earth,... This has that George W. Bush's fingerprints all over it!!!
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posted on
04/22/2012 6:35:29 PM PDT
by
The Duke
To: neverdem
This just in:
Representative Sheila Jackson Lee (Dumb-TX) wants to know which of the 4 poles the American flag is mounted on, placed there by NASA astronauts several years ago.
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posted on
04/22/2012 6:41:32 PM PDT
by
SERKIT
("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
To: PapaBear3625
Is the sun cooler during a shallow cycle?
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posted on
04/22/2012 6:49:03 PM PDT
by
tbw2
To: SaraJohnson
The sun doesn't rotate as a solid mass meaning that its magnetic fields are constantly shifting, shearing, twisting and breaking. It has a general north south orientation but not at all like we see in the earth.
The solar reversals don't appear to be at all uncommon and happen far more often than the 300,000 year reversals of the earth's magnetic field.
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posted on
04/22/2012 6:50:00 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: cripplecreek
To: onedoug
Paderewski, Chopin, Kociuzsko, & Pope John Paul II
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posted on
04/22/2012 7:19:06 PM PDT
by
P.O.E.
(Pray for America)
To: neverdem
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posted on
04/22/2012 8:10:00 PM PDT
by
libertarian27
(Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
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posted on
04/22/2012 8:14:53 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: P.O.E.
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posted on
04/22/2012 8:16:46 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
To: tumblindice
Yeah, I read that too...we are so screwed, either the Obommer gets in or we git Mitts or the sun blows up...dang.
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posted on
04/22/2012 8:17:03 PM PDT
by
GRRRRR
(He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
To: neverdem
As if 40 million Poles on earth wasn’t enough!
To: Aunt Polgara
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posted on
04/22/2012 10:18:07 PM PDT
by
4buttons
To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; SunkenCiv
Keep your tires inflated - that should ward off any ill effects. Only if you also eat your peas. Pea plants fix nitrogen (which I didn't even know was broken!) so that they can convert more CO^2 into O^2 + C...which is why peas always carbonize when you let the pot boil dry.
That carbon from the carbonized peas can then be recovered (didn't really know that carbon was upholstered, let alone needed a new covering, either) to make more tires to be inflated with the now-repaired nitrogen.
I am amazed everyday at what I can learn & share just by reading Free Republic...it is well worth a small monthly donation!
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posted on
04/23/2012 12:07:36 AM PDT
by
ApplegateRanch
(Love me, love my guns!©)
To: tbw2
Is the sun cooler during a shallow cycle? The theory is that the sunspot level is an indicator of the strength of the solar magnetic field. When the solar field is strong, the earth is better shielded from cosmic ray particles (high velocity charged particles). Higher levels of cosmic ray particles promote cloud formation, resulting is less solar heating of the ground. So low sunspot level = low solar magnetic field = more clouds = lower temperatures.
Of course the whole notion is ridiculous, since everybody knows that the Earth's temperature is solely determined by the CO2 level.
Still there is that pesky correlation, where the Maunder Minimum of 1650-1700 coincided with the Little Ice Age, and similar cool effects happening during the Dalton Minimum, but that's just crazy talk.
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posted on
04/23/2012 4:56:19 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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