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I've heard of the police using rovers for similar purposes. I don't think that the case will take off.
1 posted on 04/11/2012 4:46:36 AM PDT by jmcenanly
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The evidence of the crime was well established long before the drone was used to locate him.

No significant new legal issue here.


2 posted on 04/11/2012 4:51:40 AM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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3 questions...

what do you mean, "I don't think that the case will take off."?

Why would someone NOT be able to keep cows on a 3000 acre tract?

Why would someone shoot at police????

3 posted on 04/11/2012 4:52:55 AM PDT by Principled
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Bizarre case is forcing court to decide if police may take advantage of technology in making arrests

how about "invasive" technology? How about "military" technology?

oh, idunno, cuz words matter?

6 posted on 04/11/2012 5:10:50 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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The SWAT team stormed in and arrested Brossart on charges of terrorizing a sheriff, theft, criminal mischief, and other charges, according to documents.

Greaaaaaat. Now they've criminalized scaring your Sheriff.

7 posted on 04/11/2012 5:30:12 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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I've heard of the police using rovers for similar purposes. I don't think that the case will take off.

I imagine he's going to claim this is a violation of his Fourth Amendment rights. SCOTUS has held that 4A limits use of technology not in widespread use by the public. So, a cop walking by on your street who wears glasses and sees what appears to be a dead body through your front window, ok; extremely expensive thermal imagers to see that the roof over your third bedroom is way hotter than the rest of the house and you might be growing pot, no. But IMO he's going to have a hard time making that case because that's for warrantless, pre probable cause searches. If police have PC and a warrant, they can use pretty sophisticated tools looking for evidence. Plus in this case they'll probably claim officer safety as well, since he chased them off with guns.

8 posted on 04/11/2012 5:37:15 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Well, that plan worked.


9 posted on 04/11/2012 5:40:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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From the article;

Currently, about 300 law enforcement agencies and research institutions—including the Grand Forks SWAT team—have “temporary licenses” from the FAA to use drones. Currently, drones are most commonly used by Homeland Security along America’s borders.


10 posted on 04/11/2012 5:41:52 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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Brossart, an alleged anti-government "sovereignist," believed he should have been able to keep the cows

Did he think the cows were sent by the government? Were these cows USDA Grade A?

This story seems more comical than insidious. Use of a drone in this circumstance doesn't mean any more than if they used a helicopter. The event in question occurred before the use of surveillance, not vice versa.

i.e., if the drone spotted him collecting cows and, with only that information, sent the cops in, you'd have a case here.

11 posted on 04/11/2012 5:59:38 AM PDT by fruser1
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Target practice?


15 posted on 04/11/2012 6:13:17 AM PDT by moovova (Comments at FreeRepublic are WAY MORE interesting than the articles.)
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Deu 22:1 Thou shalt not see thy brother’s ox or his sheep go astray, and hide thyself from them: thou shalt in any case bring them again unto thy brother.


16 posted on 04/11/2012 6:50:30 AM PDT by the_daug
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Interesting. No mention of what agency was in charge of the drone. Are domestic agencies now operating Predators? I have ready that the Border Patrol is getting some, but that's a long way from ND. If it was a military asset, this action would be a violation of posse comitatus, would it not?

In any case, it sure goes to prove that these folks will spend all the taxpayer money they like when someone resists their "awe-thar-i-taaaay".

17 posted on 04/11/2012 6:50:36 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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How long before these same “Drones” will become [armed] drones over Americans private property?

This is a perfect example of “Mission Creep!” what was first used as an example of “anti-terror” is now being used for local police to apprehend private Americans!

Where do Americans draw the line or rein in government overreach or abuse? Some Americans like the use of government power to accomplish somethings in our society, but not in others, but, where do we draw that line to stop government overreach?

It is a very slippery slope

26 posted on 04/11/2012 8:16:35 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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Armed Predator drone flying around Chicago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzrS0BVJynM


36 posted on 05/16/2012 4:55:52 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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