[Bogey78O]

The cost of a kwh is a tenth of that in the email.

[brooklin]

We have high electric rates per Kwh here in Maine, $.20 per hour. The rate listed in the article seems to be way to high.

[Carriage Hill]

95% of those lib morons don’t even know where electricity comes from. It ain’t coming from solar or wind or algae! When 0bummer shuts down all of the coal-fired plants, the Govt Mtrs Dolts won’t run or catch fire, at least. They’ll be wonderful lawn ornaments.

[Secret Agent Man]

All I know is this:

THe battery gives you about what 1 gallon of gas gets you in terms of miles traveled.

1 gallon of gas is about 8 pounds. 1 rack of batteries that drives you as far as a gallon of gas is 560 pounds. That means you’re always hauling around 3-4-5 extra people in your car even when the batteries aren’t charged anymore.

1 gallon of gas costs $4.00 now, a relative high price for gas. The battery pack itself costs thousands of dollars, and charging it for ten hours at your rate of whatever per kw/h costs triple or quadruple a gallon of gas.

The physical volume of a gallon of gas is far less than the physical volume of the batteries required to store the electrical energy equivalent of one gallon of gas.

You can put one gallon of gas into your car in about 10 seconds. It takes ten hours to charge the batteries on a 120 volt line, about 5 on a 240 volt line.

You can store a gallon or more of gas in your garage and add it to your car as you need it, or even sell it to someone else who needs it if you don’t. You can’t keep spare battery packs around and just swap in a charged one while the other charges up. You can trade excess battery power to anyone else.

I can keep an emergency gallon of gas in my trunk if I need it. I can’t keep an emergency battery pack around to use when my current 560 pound battery pack runs out.

My gas car is not a much more severe electrical hazard in an accident setting. Can’t say that for hybrids or the volt.

And why is this car superior to hybrids that recharge the battery while driving and don’t require taxing the neighborhood grid for ten hours of power?

[Lazlo in PA]

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[Eye of Unk]

Regardless of the math its still at the mercy of rolling blackouts and disconnects from any smart meter.

[Lazlo in PA]

The Volt is finished. It has such bad press and makes no sense to buy compared to far cheaper death traps with high MPG. Ironically, Opel has the same basic car in Europe, the Ampera, and it is doing better sales wise. They actually designed a car that looks a bit better and has a switch to turn off the batteries for cruising on the Autobahn. The Germans actually took customers in mind when designing theirs as opposed to Chevy just jamming together a POS to push out the door at Obummers insistence.

[Hunton Peck]

In case anyone’s interested, here’s Bolling’s report (video starts automatically on loading the page): http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1428781506001

[SkyDancer]

Where I live in Washington state it’s $0.08 per KWH (that’s including all taxes).

[preacher]

There was a left wing propaganda movie made a few years ago. Liberals actually believed it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%3F

Who Killed the Electric Car? is a 2006 documentary film that explores the creation, limited commercialization, and subsequent destruction of the battery electric vehicle in the United States, specifically the General Motors EV1 of the mid 1990s. The film explores the roles of automobile manufacturers, the oil industry, the US government, the Californian government, batteries, hydrogen vehicles, and consumers in limiting the development and adoption of this technology. After a premiere at the Sundance Film Festival, it was released theatrically by Sony Pictures Classics in June, 2006 and then on DVD by Sony Pictures Home Entertainment on November 14, 2006.

[preacher]

[Myrddin]

I pulled up to Fry's electronics in San Diego yesterday on my motorcycle. A blue Nissan Leaf had pulled up to the front of the building and plugged into an electric socket on the front of the building. The owner kept coming out to check the state of charge...a hostage who couldn't leave until the battery was sufficiently charged. Eventually, the charge looked good enough. He emerged from the car, removed the charger, then wandered inside to hunt down his wife and daughter. He pulled away leaving the socket open to the weather instead of closing the weather proof cover. I really doubt he had permission to use the socket. It was equivalent to pumping gasoline and driving off without paying for the product.

The electricity may be "cheaper" than the gas (especially if you steal it). The hours held hostage waiting for the charge are a really bad trade off. Life is too short to be wasted waiting for a battery to charge.

[vette6387]

Two things: 1) Where is the motor vehicle tax in this scheme? Here in California there is a combined state and federal fuel tax of more than 60 cents a gallon, and 2) if we had significant numbers of EV’s, where do these idiots think we would get the power to charge everyone up? It would be one thing if we had an abundant supply of cheap nuclear power, but we don’t so EV’s do nothing for either energy independence or emissions.

[Cobra64]

Plan on distance being reduced by 30% if running the AC in summer and the heater in winter.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery.***

I have a magazine, NATIONAL WILDLIFE from 2008 with an interview with candidate Obama.

In it he says he wants ONE MILLION plug-in hybrid autos that get 150 MILES PER GALLON on the roads by 2015.

And by 2012 he wants 10% of our energy needs coming from renewable sources like solar and wind.

In other news today, Mitsubishi, in Ft Smith Arkansas is not going to start up their wind generator manufacturing plant. No one wants to buy their product.

[mo]

Your basically buying a car with a 600lb one gallon gas tank. Only a liberal could think that’s smart....the same crowd that has driven our country into 15 trillion of debt.

It is civically irresponsible to let this crowd near any issue requiring adult decision-making.