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Wrong house raided during drug search; police admit mistake
Post Standard Syracuse NY ^ | 3/28/12

Posted on 04/01/2012 5:32:48 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: Behind Liberal Lines
police realized they had the wrong house by looking through his mail.

Isn't this a federal crime all by itself?

41 posted on 04/01/2012 7:31:18 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: FreedomPoster

And that’s four times in the last 16 years for this ONE police department.

Multiply it by the thousands of police and sheriff’s departments across the country, and you get this sad fact....the War on Drugs has evolved into a war against the privacy, dignity, freedom and even safety of the American people.


42 posted on 04/01/2012 7:31:25 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I will not comply with tyranny.....I refuse to comply with tyranny.)
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To: Farmer Dean; All

Yeah, I’m glad no dogs were shot, too.


43 posted on 04/01/2012 7:34:23 PM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: Ken522

I found that comment to be asinine!


44 posted on 04/01/2012 7:57:33 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“raiding a wrong house four times in the last 16 years.”

And he is proud of that record?


45 posted on 04/01/2012 8:08:01 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (The response to 1984 is 1776.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
And that’s four times in the last 16 years for this ONE police department. Multiply it by the thousands of police and sheriff’s departments across the country, and you get this sad fact....the War on Drugs has evolved into a war against the privacy, dignity, freedom and even safety of the American people.

The worst thing is how it degrades public trust. There's nothing wrong with SWAT teams, if they're used as needed. For hostage situations, for example (which is how they were sold to the public). Even then, however, they shouldn't be used in lieu of trying to talk someone down. Now they're used for everything, and every police force has their own team, funded by federal dollars and what they can seize.

SWAT teams are like guns, or fire - they have to be considered special tools for special things. When you need them, you REALLY need them. And when you don't, you REALLY don't. A society advances to the degree it can properly use it's growing power. When the power outgrows the proper use of it, it ends up devouring the very society it purports to be serving.

46 posted on 04/01/2012 8:17:43 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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police realized they had the wrong house by looking through his mail.

Isn't this a federal crime all by itself?

Yes, it is...

the infowarrior

47 posted on 04/01/2012 10:27:27 PM PDT by infowarrior
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After the police realized it was the wrong house, they took the handcuffs off him and left.

"Consider this one a warning, citizen."

48 posted on 04/01/2012 10:43:35 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Auburn Police Chief Gary Giannotta admitted the mistake and told WSYR that he only remembers police raiding a wrong house four times in the last 16 years.

Oh! Well, then, nothing to see here, move along! [facepalm]

49 posted on 04/01/2012 10:44:55 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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They’re slack a** hacks who need to be replaced so they can find a new line of work to which they are better suited. Garbageman comes to mind as appropriate.

Bullcrap. These nitwits would probably throw the guy's mailbox in the back of the trash truck and leave his trash sitting by the curb.

50 posted on 04/01/2012 10:46:49 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Talisker

Absolutely spot on.

SWAT are specialists, and so they should be. Got a friend who is a SWAT sniper. 95% of the time she works as a normal cop with her regular partner who is also her spotter.

She has said that they are being called out more and more often for things that would ordinarily be done by the regular cops.
She is mega peeved at it - compares it to using Marines to break up a playground fight, plus it throws their shifts all to hell.
Mostly it is political. Mayor wants to look tough on crime? Use the SWAT team. Budget appropriations due? Use the SWAT team to keep the funding.


51 posted on 04/01/2012 11:10:47 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: The KG9 Kid; Behind Liberal Lines

Follow-up on break-in posted last week: Once the press got hold of the story, cops compensated the wronged homeowner, per OP.

And this lovely quote FTA: Auburn Police Chief Gary Giannotta admitted the mistake and told WSYR that he only remembers police raiding a wrong house four times in the last 16 years.

And how many violated persons and dead dogs in those homes, Chief?


52 posted on 04/02/2012 5:28:36 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: EnglishCon

I agree with you and the original poster...these SWAT teams are special teams for a very special purpose...serving search warrants when no threat is perceived should not be one of them. Also, it seems now every force just has to have one.

One more thing, no knock middle of the night raids are misused IMO. Storming into one’s home in the middle of the night over a non violent crime perceived to be taking place or evidence thereof on the premise should not be sufficient reason for knocking down someone’s door and storming in like some kind of commando attacking enemy HQ. Compounding that by handcuffing a 76yo person who did not seem to be a risk seems beyond the pale. FWIW, I have served quite a few SWs in my time both as a team member and leader. NOTHING like this ever happened because the activity was planned and the degree of force was designed for the event. No one shot, no dogs killed and no mistaken addresses either on my watch. “4 in 16 years” like that is something to be proud of. Seems indictable.


53 posted on 04/02/2012 5:39:50 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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Maybe the penalty for the bureaucrats that make these mistakes should along the lines of an ‘eye for a eye’ - one of them gets randomly raided by another police department so they are subjected to the same “treatment”.

That happening a few times to the judges or officers that perpetrate things crimes would maybe have the powers that be take a little pause and little care before issuing or conducting one of these warrants.

BTW, what is so all fired important with these raids that It’s necessary to put the public and LEO’s in danger with these sort of tactics?

54 posted on 04/02/2012 5:40:03 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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Of course, if any civilian did this it would be felony criminal mischief.

But wait! There's more!

Breaking and entering, destruction of property, illegal detention, assault and battery, etc.

55 posted on 04/02/2012 5:44:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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How about that Richard Jewell/Janet Reno SNL skit as a “remedy”?

Once a week for a year, the homeowner gets to kick the miscreants in the crotch as hard as they want.

Seriously, though, if LEOs have a warrant,
walk up to the door with the warrant in hand and the handgun in the holster. Knock, serve the warrant.


56 posted on 04/02/2012 5:45:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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Auburn Police Chief Gary Giannotta admitted the mistake and told WSYR that he only remembers police raiding a wrong house four times in the last 16 years.

That's about four times too many. Where's the accountability? I'm sure there's away to pinpoint the house you're going to raid before you do it. Haven't these guys heard of google or yahoo maps?

57 posted on 04/02/2012 5:49:13 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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Seriously, though, if LEOs have a warrant, walk up to the door with the warrant in hand and the handgun in the holster. Knock, serve the warrant.

And have a few back-up officers waiting in back for the ones who try to duck out...

58 posted on 04/02/2012 6:38:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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Once a week for a year, the homeowner gets to kick the miscreants in the crotch as hard as they want.

LOL! That would make them think twice.

I don’t really understand what is so all fired important that they need those no-knock warrants – because someone may dump the evidence down the toilet???

THAT makes it worth putting a bunch of people in danger? As a last resort, why can’t they just test for drug residue in the commode? Besides, if you’ve got a lot in your ‘stash’ won’t it take awhile to get rid of it?
[Hmmm maybe that’s the true reason the Federalies mandated low-flow toilets anyway]

59 posted on 04/02/2012 6:48:14 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yep, no problem.

Just no more “dynamic entries”. Ever. At all.


60 posted on 04/02/2012 6:52:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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