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DNR to Kill Hogs and Small Family Farm Incomes
Yahoo ^ | Sherry Tomfeld

Posted on 03/29/2012 2:26:15 PM PDT by stillafreemind

The ISO to be imposed on April 1 considers all but eight breeds of hogs to be feral. Those eight breeds are used in confinement buildings. That means the DNR can drive onto farms and homesteads that raise other breeds of swine and kill them on the spot.

(Excerpt) Read more at voices.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: april1st; dnr; familyfarms; feralhogs; hogs; michigan; pigs
This is so wrong that I hardly know where to start. Yes, there is such a thing as feral hogs, they are NOT raised in pens and domesticated, they are not heritage hogs, they run wild. They are destructive and dangerous. But this bill makes it open season on these small farms and homesteads that own and raise heritage hogs.

The other thing that the article points out is that this is not a legislated bill..it's a law that the DNR came out with.

1 posted on 03/29/2012 2:26:22 PM PDT by stillafreemind
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To: stillafreemind
So.... This is where? State? County? City? Country?

/johnny

2 posted on 03/29/2012 2:29:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: stillafreemind

How about an open season on federal hogs instead? No bag limit.


3 posted on 03/29/2012 2:29:08 PM PDT by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: stillafreemind

The best thing, if you raise such hogs, keep your mouth shut and know who you can trust.


4 posted on 03/29/2012 2:29:52 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Send Obama back to the ghetto, November 6th.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Looks like Michigan


5 posted on 03/29/2012 2:29:57 PM PDT by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: stillafreemind
Aren't we missing a step. Wouldn't DNR have to trespass onto private property and kill the hogs without permission?

Secondly, if the 'pigs' are deemed 'hogs' in some ways that would mean less regulation?

6 posted on 03/29/2012 2:30:50 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: old3030
How about an open season on federal hogs instead? No bag limit.

Texas has that. Don't even need a license.

/johnny

7 posted on 03/29/2012 2:30:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: stillafreemind

Time to take out the federal trash if it shows up, I guess.


8 posted on 03/29/2012 2:31:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: stillafreemind
The other thing that the article points out is that this is not a legislated bill..it's a law that the DNR came out with.

Just a further attempt by Big Brother to control you. Control the food. Control the people.

9 posted on 03/29/2012 2:32:21 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: old3030; stillafreemind
It's the responsibility of the poster to include that information in the title or initial post.

/johnny

10 posted on 03/29/2012 2:33:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Missouri has that on feral, and I knew Texas had basically that same rule. I did not know you all had one-upped us. It's about time some state started it. My nephew is a professor at A&M. He probably knows where the crossing are around there. I'll have to go visit him.
11 posted on 03/29/2012 2:35:59 PM PDT by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: Drill Thrawl
Just a further attempt by Big Brother to control you. Control the food. Control the people.

Wanna see the minion fro "The Man" do a 40 yard dash in 7 seconds? Raise "Hogzilla" and when the "Revenooers" come around, sic Hogzilla on them, case closed. B-)
12 posted on 03/29/2012 2:42:52 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Send Obama back to the ghetto, November 6th.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Texas has that. Don't even need a license.

Wrong on two counts. #1 the post is about FEDERAL hogs. Those who feed at the trough of government - not FERAL hogs. #2 You must have a current Texas hunting license to hunt hogs in Texas. There is no limit on feral hogs but some counties have seasons and limits on Peccary (or Javelina).

13 posted on 03/29/2012 2:46:10 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: stillafreemind
Some of the piggies up to be killed.


14 posted on 03/29/2012 2:47:11 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Michigan usa


15 posted on 03/29/2012 2:51:28 PM PDT by stillafreemind
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To: JRandomFreeper

It is just about time for the feral hogs to make their annual raid on my blueberry crop. Help!


16 posted on 03/29/2012 2:52:54 PM PDT by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
It's the responsibility of the poster to include that information in the title or initial post..

No it's not, it's your responsibility as a site participant to read the article before you post comments......don't rely on the excerpt to make what is usually an unintelligent comment.

I know what state it is because I read it but I'm not telling you............

17 posted on 03/29/2012 2:56:07 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Even CA has a one per day one in possession law. The only exception is in Monterrey County where many of the hogs are Russian Boar mix. Why that makes a difference I don’t know, they are still destructive.


18 posted on 03/29/2012 2:59:40 PM PDT by calex59
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To: stillafreemind

When I went hunting on private lands in Florida, the farmer told me DNR can walk on his farm and give tickets and do whatever they wanted. I was “surprized”, to say the least. I wanted to kill hogues with NVGs and what not, but was told they would hear us and could not do it.

Now they want to come whenever and kill hogues!?

This is such horsecrap. THis is not about land management. Let the farmers make their money or invite hunters, or some kind of agreement, not this automatic BS.


19 posted on 03/29/2012 3:01:41 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: old3030
Looks like Michigan

It is Michigan and Ted Nugent was on our local 760 WJR talk radio yesterday discussing this very issue.

I missed the middle half because I had to pull into a drug store but from what I took away from the conversation is that most of the information we've been fed here in Michigan regarding feral hogs has been overstated. Specifically the numbers........

I wasn't aware that farmers of non native pigs were being targeted for extinction.......

20 posted on 03/29/2012 3:03:08 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: stillafreemind

Possibly a taking? (Lawyers?)

How are they going to verify - is “it kinda looks like a _______ hog - bang” good enough?


21 posted on 03/29/2012 3:03:24 PM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: stillafreemind

I don’t know if you guys went over to the Baker Green Acres website..but this guy and his family have what I deem about the perfect small farm/homestead. He is a 20 year Air Force Veteran and he will be devastated by this. The videos on his website are good. He tells what he is raising, what they are bred for and why they are bred the way they are. This man and his family are plainly awesome.


22 posted on 03/29/2012 3:16:28 PM PDT by stillafreemind
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To: Hot Tabasco

From the article:

**** In the ISO it says “(b) Wild boar, wild hog, wild swine, feral pig, feral hog, feral swine, Old world swine, razorback, eurasian wild boar, Russian wild boar (Sus scrofa Linnaeus). This subsection does not and is not intended to affect sus domestica involved in domestic hog production.” ****

At first I thought that last sentence leaves any domestic hogs out of this regulation, but now see that the “sus domestica” probably means a specific breed. That sucks. I wonder if there are large hog industries with thousands of hogs in buildings that perhaps greased the wheels of this law?

And as for the trespassing, these guys can go anywhere. There was the case of the County guy in Washington State that went on a guy’s lawn to write him up for having some invasive weed. The guy came out with a shotgun and told him to get off of his property. The county guy called the sheriff, and when the guy came out of his house again, shotgun in hand, they killed him.


23 posted on 03/29/2012 3:18:19 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: TexasRedeye
You must have a current Texas hunting license to hunt hogs in Texas

You are correct. I was given incorrect information.

/johnny

24 posted on 03/29/2012 3:42:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 21twelve

The game wardens claimed the need to go anywhere because the wild animals go anywhere;and the state legislatures agreed.

Indiana game wardens -they hate being called that-I mean “conservation officers” are some of the most egotistical arrogant a**h***s you’ll ever not want to meet.They and their buddies in the regular police play this little game where if the cops suspect someone but can’t get a warrant,the DNR officer just happens to need to go on that property looking for some wild animal ,check for poachers, or whatever. Then if he sees anything in violation of other laws ......


25 posted on 03/29/2012 3:49:26 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

Maybe I’m crazy..but I have been reading a lot about this Michigan move and I think that I have read in more than one place that Indiana wants this same set up.


26 posted on 03/29/2012 3:57:11 PM PDT by stillafreemind
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To: JudgemAll

You can’t kill Cable Hogue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MZ1j5_rwQ8


27 posted on 03/30/2012 11:16:05 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: stillafreemind; Paul46360; rogue yam; TEXOKIE; Quix; SunkenCiv

Agenda 21 in action. It is about taking their land - in the end. First they begin with harassment.

And people who prefer to get their food locally from farmers will be affected as well as the general public.

State of Florida Rewrites History and Takes Land from Farmer

http://survivingwithgrace.com/2012/04/11/state-of-florida-rewrites-history-and-takes-land-from-farmer/

City of Roswell, GA, bullies Andrew Wordes to death over his backyard chickens

http://www.naturalnews.com/035524_Andrew_Wordes_Roswell_chickens.html#ixzz1rkeIOjId


28 posted on 04/16/2012 8:43:09 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

INDEED.

The encroaching Marxist satanist globalist gestapo expands and intensifies its planned spheres of conquest.

From the air we breathe to the food and water we consume . . . their deadliness increases.

Folks who think otherwise have their heads buried in the sand up to their ankles . . . or are so busy texting they have no clue that there’s another world out there going rapidly to blazes in a disintegrating handbasket.

!MARANATHA!


29 posted on 04/17/2012 4:34:52 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: stillafreemind

Central Texas Heli-Hog’N [in HD] (so many pigs, so little time)

http://vimeo.com/21181307


30 posted on 04/17/2012 4:42:28 AM PDT by wolfcreek (‘closed eye’ mentality is the reason for our current reality)
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To: stillafreemind

Here’s what the brown shirts are doing...

http://www.naturalnews.com/035585_Michigan_farms_raids.html


31 posted on 04/17/2012 5:12:13 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: stillafreemind

Damn!

Bacon will be going up again.


32 posted on 04/17/2012 7:27:05 AM PDT by Califreak ("Burnt By The Sun")
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To: Whenifhow

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33 posted on 04/19/2012 12:21:57 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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FFA (Future Farmers of America)

and

4-H Club

Please link this thread URL and Email it ASAP to all your old HS friends

This is all about:

REPARATIONS (as in the Pigford SCAMS)
REDISTRIBUTION
CONTROL
REVENUE

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DO IT NOW!

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34 posted on 04/26/2012 8:48:14 AM PDT by devolve (---- --------what`s that in your pocket? $4000 less than in 2008----------)
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My brother (FFA) in WNC told me (FFA) about that http://www.naturalnews.com/035585_Michigan_farms_raids.html
link 2 days ago - He had previously asked about the credibility of reported .gov confiscation and raids on farms and ranches

Americans are waking up - and they are very angry

Snooze and the NAZIS will once again come for your guns!

Time to get some healthy hunting dogs - Plott (Bear) hounds might do the trick nicely

If the drug gangs in LA can stroll around with pitbulls.....

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35 posted on 04/26/2012 9:02:19 AM PDT by devolve (---- --------what`s that in your pocket? $4000 less than in 2008----------)
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