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Kagan: ‘It’s Just A Boatload Of Federal Money,’ ‘It Doesn’t Sound Coercive To Me’
CNSNews.com ^ | March 28, 2012 | Gregory Gwyn-Williams Jr.

Posted on 03/29/2012 10:05:34 AM PDT by CNSNews.com

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Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan defended the expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare today by arguing that "It's just a boatload of federal money for you to take and spend" and concluding "It doesn't sound coercive to me."

Kagan made her comments at today's Supreme Court hearing while questioning attorney Paul D. Clement who was presenting an oral argument on behalf of 26 states seeking to have the federal health care law declared unconstitutional:

Mr. Clement: "Mr. Chief Justice and may it please the court. The constitutionality of the act’s massive expansion of Medicaid depends on the answer to two related questions. First, is the expansion coercive? And second, does that coercion matter?"

Justice Kagan: "Mr. Clement, can I ask you as just a matter of clarification; would you be making the same argument if, instead of the federal government picking up ninety percent of the cost, the federal government picked a hundred percent of the cost?"

Clement: "Justice Kagan if everything else in the statute remained the same I would be making the exact same argument."

Kagan: "The exact same argument so, so that really reduces to the question of: why is a big gift from the federal government a matter of coercion?

"In other words, the federal government is here saying: we’re giving you a boatload of money. There are no, is no matching funds requirement. There are no extraneous conditions attached to it.

"It’s just a boatload of federal money for you to take and spend on poor people’s healthcare. It doesn’t sound coercive to me, I have to tell you."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elenakagan; obamacare; scotus; scotusocareday3
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1 posted on 03/29/2012 10:05:38 AM PDT by CNSNews.com
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This women makes misogyny sound like a rather reasonable outlook on life.


2 posted on 03/29/2012 10:06:52 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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Just a boatload of money. I wonder where it comes from?


3 posted on 03/29/2012 10:09:01 AM PDT by goldi
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To: lastchance

Does Michael Moore make hating men seem reasonable?


4 posted on 03/29/2012 10:09:32 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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Just a boatload of money. I wonder where it comes from?

From Obama's "stash"?

5 posted on 03/29/2012 10:10:59 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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Is this woman a lunatic? The Federal government has no “gift” money to give. It doesn’t produce, it consumes! The coercion happens prior to the gifting!


6 posted on 03/29/2012 10:11:07 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: txrangerette
Does Michael Moore make hating men seem reasonable?

If he were a man, it might. Fortunately, he is just a pig that talks. So it's a moot point :)

7 posted on 03/29/2012 10:12:14 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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The money must be from Obama’s stash. It's free.
8 posted on 03/29/2012 10:12:40 AM PDT by Truth29
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“It’s just a boatload of federal money for you to take and spend on poor people’s healthcare. It doesn’t sound coercive to me, I have to tell you.” Which was followed by ...from his stash..OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA.....


9 posted on 03/29/2012 10:13:08 AM PDT by WinMod70
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Ya can’t fix stupid.


10 posted on 03/29/2012 10:13:43 AM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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To: goldi

You care where it came from. The left doesn’t care.

Her point was not even that...her point was, there’s no coercion.

All you have to do is spend it as we tell you, you don’t have to spend state money on this expansion, so where’s the coercion?

“spend it as we tell you to spend it”

And if you refuse, we will punish you by cutting off other funds.

DUH.


11 posted on 03/29/2012 10:14:19 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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That money gets phased out so is useless in the long run. The long run is what states are complaining about.

If that doesn’t make sense to you, then have I got a deal for you.

I am willing to sell you my house such that you won’t have to pay me any money for the first two years. After that, you need to pay me $50,000 a month for life.

Any takers?


12 posted on 03/29/2012 10:14:56 AM PDT by fruser1
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Just a boatload of money. I wonder where it comes from?

These Obama-bucks come from Obama-boats moored in Obama Harbor.

13 posted on 03/29/2012 10:15:09 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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14 posted on 03/29/2012 10:16:26 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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From what I have read about Kagan’s background and outlook - I highly doubt she believes in the Constitution as worded.

I am sure she views it as an interesting document for the period in which it was created - and I am also sure she views the Constitution as irrelevant for our present age.


15 posted on 03/29/2012 10:16:41 AM PDT by PGR88
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16 posted on 03/29/2012 10:18:42 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU.baraq !)
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Reading this make me want to break into her house and take everything in it.


17 posted on 03/29/2012 10:20:05 AM PDT by Oratam
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Elmer Kagan thinks money grows on trees.


18 posted on 03/29/2012 10:20:05 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.


19 posted on 03/29/2012 10:26:12 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: chesley; lastchance

As between being a man, or a woman, which is Michael Moore?

I’ll tell you why using him as an example is a moot point, and it’s not because he’s a pig.

Justice Breyer will vote with Kagan.

He’s kind of a likable idiot.

John Paul Stevens is who Kagan replaced. He was a huge lib icon. They said people liked him. Another idiot.

So, are Justices Breyer and Stevens examples of why hating men is reasonable?

You get my drift.

I’ll flip the argument.

Margaret Thatcher.

Would she make a good case for misogeny, or would she destroy the case for it?

The making of this Kagan issue an issue of justifiable misogeny, which is against ALL women, is where the wrong turn was taken.


20 posted on 03/29/2012 10:26:51 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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