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Six months after repeal, military says DADT died quietly
Stars and Stripes ^ | March 19, 2012 | Leo Shane III

Posted on 03/23/2012 12:09:02 PM PDT by EveningStar

...Six months after the military dropped the controversial “don’t ask, don’t tell” law barring gays from serving openly, Pentagon officials and gay rights advocates say the policy change has largely been a non-issue, with few complaints and no major headaches resulting from the new rules...

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dadt; dontaskdonttell; gaysinmilitary; homosexualagenda; military
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1 posted on 03/23/2012 12:09:10 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Yeah, Obama’s military - Lapdog leadership.


2 posted on 03/23/2012 12:13:17 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: EveningStar

Yeah, they always say this. When the problems start to become undeniable, they’ll say its too late to change.


3 posted on 03/23/2012 12:16:40 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: EveningStar

Convenient. Homosexuals can’t serve in the military. Pass DADT. Now they can serve but not openly. Repeal DADT. Now they can serve openly.

Did I miss anything?


4 posted on 03/23/2012 12:18:19 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: EveningStar

And Mitt Romney was just fine with DADT being rescinded.


5 posted on 03/23/2012 12:18:22 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: fwdude

DADT died quietly...like an AIDs patient in a hospice. Any additional funds for the VA to deal with this health hazard?
And hold the Homophophic flames flamers. AIDS is a very sad story and still out there in our gay community.


6 posted on 03/23/2012 12:18:22 PM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: EveningStar

Give it some time for the big problems to surface. There will be problems with transexuals. What do you do with shemale troops? Of cource the civilian people who have homsexual “marriages” to homos in the military will demand military dependents status. What happens when large numbers of good troops choose to get out of the military because of this. How will enlistments be affected? This is a disaster.


7 posted on 03/23/2012 12:18:27 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: forgotten man
There will be problems with transexuals. What do you do with shemale troops?

Sure isn't our parents' America, is it? What a pathetic mess it all has become...

8 posted on 03/23/2012 12:23:18 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: forgotten man

The “problem” as far as the left is concerned is that the enforcement arm of their “god” (government) has far too many conservative, Christian, Americans in it,

and therefore can’t be used as the tool of oppression that they “need”.

Answer: Purge out this unwanted demographic by making the culture unacceptable to them.


9 posted on 03/23/2012 12:23:27 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: fwdude
Lapdog leadership.

Yup. What did everyone expect them to say? "We screwed up Big Time! This was the worst mistake since Custer decided to take his troop out and scare up a few Indians!"

Pravada wasn't this blatant in its spin, I think.

10 posted on 03/23/2012 12:23:58 PM PDT by wbill
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To: forgotten man

Yup-already happening. It never was about gays in the military. Those who wanted to serve have been doing so with honor for many years. As you said, it was about marriage, benefits and healthcare (which is likely to cost a LOT for the high-risk population = something we never hear about!)


11 posted on 03/23/2012 12:24:50 PM PDT by Pat4ever
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To: EveningStar

Expect an increase in “Friendly Fire” and “Lost at Sea” reports.


12 posted on 03/23/2012 12:39:54 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: EveningStar

I guess they greased the skids..........

13 posted on 03/23/2012 12:41:59 PM PDT by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Expect an increase in “Friendly Fire” and “Lost at Sea” reports.

I'm guessing your understanding of the U.S. military stems from an overconsumption of hollywood movies.

14 posted on 03/23/2012 12:57:12 PM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: EveningStar

If there WAS a problem, we will never hear about it.


15 posted on 03/23/2012 12:57:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Especially with the JAG offices run by fags.


16 posted on 03/23/2012 12:59:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: dfwgator

Jag Fags??

LOL!!

Hey Lindsay? Where ARE you ??


17 posted on 03/23/2012 1:12:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: douginthearmy

***I’m guessing your understanding of the U.S. military stems from an overconsumption of hollywood movies. ****

Not hardly. I spent Four Years in the USAF, talked with others who served in other branches, have shown me all have a general disgust of homos. Not to mention that we were all required to report for military classes once each year and given a heavy dose of anti-homo warnings.

And one former navy man, many years ago, told me of a certain sailor on his ship who was “lost at sea”.


18 posted on 03/23/2012 1:13:02 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: EveningStar

Pravda reports.


19 posted on 03/23/2012 1:14:01 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: dfwgator

I did my time active from ‘71-’74 as a “volunteer”, but then how the hell could I have known that they’d end the draft the week after I started basic training?

Still, I did my three years, followed by four more in the guard, all playing army.

For sure I wouldn’t go into the current army under their current operating conditions, even if drafted. Some crap in life I don’t have to put up with.


20 posted on 03/23/2012 1:17:35 PM PDT by benewton
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To: stephenjohnbanker

There was one little problem reported in an Alaskan newspaper. It seems like some homos started spreading AIDS up that way and they were traced to one of the military bases.


21 posted on 03/23/2012 1:19:16 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Interesting anecdote, but the men with whom I served never so much as joked about that sort of thing. Maybe it’s a different time given we are in an actual shooting war. Walking around with a loaded weapon tends to cut down on the finger quotation marks and the winks and nods.


22 posted on 03/23/2012 1:23:48 PM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: rbg81

They made a big deal about the butt boys online magazine “Outserve”. It has been out since December and there is hardly any activity on the site.

I go there from time to time to see what they are saying. They made it out like half the force was homos.


23 posted on 03/23/2012 1:25:19 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: douginthearmy

I’m guessing your understanding of the U.S. military stems from an overconsumption of hollywood movies.
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My husband attended a military academy high school during the Viet Nam war. One of his teachers told of his captain being shot in the @$$. “Take that hill!” “No.”


24 posted on 03/23/2012 1:29:37 PM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick over 50)
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To: USAF80

Sheesh!


25 posted on 03/23/2012 1:30:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Pat4ever

Food for thought One of the things that is considered when they will issue you a security clearance is sexual activity. It’s one of the top five.

Gotta run.


26 posted on 03/23/2012 1:30:39 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: EveningStar

They were shocked to find lesbians in the Army.


27 posted on 03/23/2012 1:36:00 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: USAF80

Gotta wonder how folks with a past ever obtain a TS. But then I think of the CinC...


28 posted on 03/23/2012 1:45:49 PM PDT by Pat4ever
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
a general disgust of homos.

That's the way it was in WW-II ... regarding blacks.

After the war, President Truman integrated the military, and that's worked out well.

29 posted on 03/23/2012 2:30:40 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: EveningStar

Say what you want, but the younger generation has been indoctrinated by these radical liberal commie activists who have removed any sense of right and wrong. They have polluted our schools, our churches, and our televisions. These are the kids going into our country’s service. This ain’t your daddy’s United States military. NO RESPECT FOR TRADITION


30 posted on 03/23/2012 3:13:02 PM PDT by godgunsglory59
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To: OldNavyVet

That’s the way it was in WW-II ... regarding blacks.

After the war, President Truman integrated the military, and that’s worked out well.
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That’s comparing apples and oranges. Skin color is a state of being. Homosexuality is both a state of being and a state of doing. DADT allowed their state of being if kept to themselves on state of doing. Now they’ve been given a pass on state of doing. That does not equate to race and the argument is specious.


31 posted on 03/23/2012 3:52:01 PM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick over 50)
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To: pgyanke

You’ve missed what’s coming next. Transgendered servicemembers. Also personnel tracking and affirmative action. And anybody who complains in any way will be smacked down by the PC police.


32 posted on 03/23/2012 3:54:15 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: fwdude

<<<< but haven’t faced any lawsuits or mass resignations predicted by some opponents.>>>>>>>

Men who don’t like flagrant homosexuals in their foxhole or next bunk will quietly choose to not re-enlist, or never join in the first place. The feminization and homosexualization of the military will destroy our warrior spirit.


33 posted on 03/23/2012 3:54:17 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: EveningStar

I predict CWII. I also predict the New Confederate Army will not tolerate fagots.


34 posted on 03/23/2012 3:56:32 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rbg81

You got it.

Same way with easing our divorce laws. At first, there were a few more divorces, then a lot more, and then suddenly, it’s too late. Fifty percent divorce rate. It’s impossible to go back.


35 posted on 03/23/2012 3:58:15 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: OldNavyVet
After the war, President Truman integrated the military, and that's worked out well.

Wait until senior officers and NCO are fudge packers. They play favorites and will be "doing" the enlisted. It is going to be a disaster. The brown politics will be too much for the decent NCO's and JO's.

So eventually you will have a completely fagaotized senior staff with normal JO's who stay 4 years and quit.

36 posted on 03/23/2012 4:00:54 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: USAF80

They made a big deal about the butt boys online magazine “Outserve”. It has been out since December and there is hardly any activity on the site.


That’s interesting. After your response, I took a look at the site (just for jollies). Looks like they are including “Transgender” too. Didn’t know that was green lighted too. Of course, some of the butch women I’ve run into could easily double as men.

I’m just glad that I’m RETIRED Air Force and don’t have to deal with this crap.


37 posted on 03/23/2012 4:34:19 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81

They have not included transconfused yet. The Canadian military has some group that is pushing that though.


38 posted on 03/23/2012 4:46:51 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: rbg81

Transgendered are still prohibited from serving. But they are pushing to change this policy, too:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/20/military-gay-group-growing-aiming-more-rights/?page=2

Home from the war, a woman
Sam Taylor kept her transgendered identity a secret while serving in Iraq.

http://www.chapelhillnews.com/2012/03/07/70493/home-from-the-war-a-woman.html


39 posted on 03/23/2012 5:48:23 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: heye2monn
We are already getting a dose of what happens to any enlisted service member who dares question this Impostor-In-Chief.

Marine still outspoken despite facing dismissal

Can you imagine how viciously the Gaystapo would yank on Obama's chain if any military chief dared go against the "correct" political dialog?

40 posted on 03/24/2012 5:31:47 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: pgyanke
Convenient. Homosexuals can’t serve in the military. Pass DADT. Now they can serve but not openly. Repeal DADT. Now they can serve openly. Did I miss anything?

Yes, the next sordid chapter, which I won't mention.

41 posted on 03/24/2012 5:33:10 AM PDT by fwdude
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If there WAS a problem, we will never hear about it.

Well, the glaring problems in the "survey" report were glossed over or completely omitted. What did anyone expect?

42 posted on 03/24/2012 5:35:32 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: rbg81
Looks like they are including “Transgender” too. Didn’t know that was green lighted too.

They are "deeming" this to be the case because they claim that many "transgenders" just haven't undergone the "transformation" yet. (why is is that you have to use so many quotation marks when talking about these realityphobes?)

But the push is on: first, to provide full "sex-change" coverage to retired military personnel, and then to let them do it while serving.

43 posted on 03/24/2012 5:42:31 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: pops88
My husband attended a military academy high school during the Viet Nam war. One of his teachers told of his captain being shot in the @$$. “Take that hill!” “No.”

All volunteer armies don't shoot each other. Seriously. I know this is a widely held cliche, and there ARE indeed psychopaths who kill but those are extreme anomalies. Even though most Soldiers and Marines dislike homosexuality there will be no "friendly fire". It's ludicrous and disparaging of the honorable to suggest so. Friendly fire accidents are generally due to area attacks such as mortar fire, bombs and the like.

44 posted on 03/24/2012 12:13:05 PM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: douginthearmy

Even though most Soldiers and Marines dislike homosexuality there will be no “friendly fire”. It’s ludicrous and disparaging of the honorable to suggest so.
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I suggested no such thing. A person was mocked and disparaged over whether friendly fire incidents occur. I was simply sharing an instance I knew of that didn’t come from Hollywood’s distortions. It is also a leap to think I’m suggesting this would happen simply because someone is homosexual.


45 posted on 03/24/2012 12:22:42 PM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick over 50)
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To: fwdude

None dare speak up. The conservative Christian core of the U.S. military — its heart and soul — is being driven out. We’re heading the way of the feeble and disgraceful European armies.


46 posted on 03/24/2012 12:33:59 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn
None dare speak up. The conservative Christian core of the U.S. military — its heart and soul — is being driven out. We’re heading the way of the feeble and disgraceful European armies.

Yep.

47 posted on 03/24/2012 1:53:28 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: EveningStar

The repeal in and of itself isn’t a huge deal. It’s the first time PFC Dirtbag claims “homophobia” as the reason for his punishment (rather than the fact that he’s a dirtbag) and all charges are dropped.

THAT will be the beginning of the end.


48 posted on 03/24/2012 1:55:51 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (If we had a President, he'd look like Newt.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I’ve always predicted that if open homosexuality were ever tolerated in the military, serving homosexuals would be untouchable by any meaningful discipline or rules. The rampant spread of HIV, which is already reported in a base in Alaska, will be shrugged off and swept under the rug, as taxpayer dollars go to subsidize the continuance of this scourge.

ANY attempt to address the unavoidable problems created by this disastrous policy will be deemed “homophobia,” and the party addressing the problem will be the one made to face severe punishment.


49 posted on 03/24/2012 2:31:10 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Given the eggshells the higher-ups walk on for Muslims to the point of allowing mass murder, I have to agree with you.

But, hey, at least our diversity won’t be a casualty, right?

/Casey


50 posted on 03/24/2012 2:35:23 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (If we had a President, he'd look like Newt.)
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