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Santorum Suggests Obama Preferable to "Etch-A-Sketch" Romney.
latimes.com ^ | March 22, 2012 | Michael A. Memoli

Posted on 03/22/2012 6:27:59 PM PDT by true believer forever

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To: true believer forever

If that be more than taken from context, Santorum won’t even be a footnote at the convention.
If he only has the bitter dregs of his cup may he choke on them.


101 posted on 03/22/2012 7:36:26 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: true believer forever; Steelfish; Lazlo in PA; writer33; Brices Crossroads; Mountain Mary; ...

I’m sick of the hypocrisy. Reading Santorum’s quote, it’s clear what the point was: There is NO difference between Romney and Obama, and that when faced with the choice of a Socialist/Marxist and Obama-lite, people will always choose the real thing everytime.

MANY people here have said the exact same thing on numerous occasions that Romney is not an acceptable alternative to Obama. And that is what Santorum is essentially saying here. And yet, the FR attacks on Rick continue to make him look like the quote is something bad, when it is in fact the truth.

FUMR! NO ROMNEY, NO WAY!


102 posted on 03/22/2012 7:36:44 PM PDT by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: dfwgator
Obama is a blatant socialist, which means it is easier to forment opposition to his socialist policies.

Another Freeper rooting for Obama. rat...it's the new conservatism.

103 posted on 03/22/2012 7:36:44 PM PDT by Once-Ler (There are two paths! One is America, the other is Occupy!)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Impy; Perdogg; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; randita; Sun

That is way over the top, even given Mitt’s obvious shortcomings.


104 posted on 03/22/2012 7:37:40 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: dfwgator

So what’s going to take over from the GOP-E? What’s going to be the New GOP?


105 posted on 03/22/2012 7:37:50 PM PDT by livius
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To: madison10

“There’s no difference between THOSE comments and what Rick state.”

LMAO @ you....

There is a very BIG difference between regular FReepers and your Ricky, FReepers are not running for president!!

I will say this though, there are a good many FReepers that would make far better presidents than Romney or Saintorum.


106 posted on 03/22/2012 7:37:50 PM PDT by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Gene Eric
This is what happens to the serious man without a plan. The moral vanity brigade is running off the rails.

“Go Newt!”

Oh, Santorum's got a plan - The "Anything That's Good for Rick" plan. He never deviates.

GO BACK TO NEWT AND STAY THERE!!!


107 posted on 03/22/2012 7:39:02 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: dfwgator

I would rather have a leader with allegiance to the LDS than the Islamic revolution, but if that is any kind of issue for you then the Papist Santorum should have you frightened to death.


108 posted on 03/22/2012 7:39:31 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

“So your argument is to hold our noses and vote for another Liberal Elitist RINO as the alternative?”

No my argument is I’m going to do it, and you can stay home if you want to.

“I did that with Dole and McCain never again!!!!!”

Really? Not me. I could never vote for John McCain! Talk about a RINO! No way. I can’t believe you actually fell for John McCain. I’m sorry you did that. You must feel really dirty. Just kidding. But not about McCain. I never voted for him and never would.

“Nothing and I mean Nothing will change with Romney just look at his tenure as Governor of Mass.”

You could be right. But would Obama be better than that? Not likely.

“Well this Conservative and many others will just say no.”

Ok, say no.

“The country for the most part is lost and the Economic Debacle that is coming can happen on Obama’s watch rather than a Republican’s.”

At least you won’t be able to be blamed when the Country goes to hell. You tell ‘em.

“Between Entitlements along with the Debt and Deficit we are heading Lightspeed into a mountain so let Obama have all the credit.”

Even if it does happen under Obama’s watch I don’t think he’ll get all the credit for it. The Left has the Media on it’s side so don’t hold your breath on that one.


109 posted on 03/22/2012 7:40:42 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: Once-Ler

No Obama is a Blatant MARXIST and nothing less!!!!!!!


110 posted on 03/22/2012 7:40:51 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: true believer forever

I hate to inform you people, but Santorum has a point.

If you elect a flaming liberal Republican, he WILL be able to get a lot of Establishment Republicans to support his agenda (which will not differ much from Obama). That is PRECISELY why we have to deal with the EPA, OSHA, crazy ‘civil rights’ laws, the Wheelchair Law, and nearly a blanket Amnesty. They were ALL signed in by liberal Republicans (Nixon, and both Bushes)

The Dems don’t even try that crap when they run things (other than the healthcare law, but that’s already on the books and only an IDIOT would believe that Romney will fight it). The Dems would rather let the Republicans step in the crap, rather than take the heat for it themselves.


111 posted on 03/22/2012 7:41:00 PM PDT by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: toldyou
I’ve wanted Newt since 2008 anyway, but wow...I just lost any respect I ever had for Santorum.

I never had any.

112 posted on 03/22/2012 7:41:21 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: CatoRenasci

Goodness me, Santorum is NOT a Christian Socialist, not even close.

He was one of the more conservative senators in the Senate on multiple fronts. But not a pure free markets guy.
He’s more like a Pat Buchanan lite.


113 posted on 03/22/2012 7:42:25 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: livius
livius, I've been thinking long and hard tonight, along the same lines.

This election stinks. Romney and Santorum both act like they're applying for the "big desk job" when we need a field general!

I think it's time the tea party started kicking some elephant butt.

114 posted on 03/22/2012 7:42:54 PM PDT by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: NYCslicker

I disagree....but thats ok. I see no difference in Zero in Romney other than this. Romney’s tax plan....he defines the rich at $200k, while Zero does it at $250k. Other than that they are the same. Socialized healthcare, planned parenthood, liberal judges, cap&trade, gun control...the list goes on and on.

I can’t find one significant action as governor (not just words) where he is contrary to zero.

I don’t support people just because they have an R behind their name and the GOP losership tells me to. My vote is important enough to not be wasted on an empty political suit.


115 posted on 03/22/2012 7:43:06 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Califelephant

“Rick Santorum: “Sure, I can come up with something every bit as stupid as Eric Fehrnstrom. Let me think a minute ... I got it! ‘If Mitt’s the Republican nominee, then you might as well vote for Obama!’ How’s that?””

Bears repeating. Santorum is tripping all over his own tongue on a daily basis. Getting mighty sick of him, and used to like him a lot.

OMG, how I want Newt!


116 posted on 03/22/2012 7:43:53 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: true believer forever

Santorum’s ‘scorched Earth policy’. 0bama will be more than happy to use Rick’s statement as fodder during his campaign. The GOP needs to get the word out that ambushing itself is 0bama’s pathway to four more years.


117 posted on 03/22/2012 7:43:52 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Gator113

Don’t call him “my” Ricky. Although I like him as a candidate, I’d vote for whoever wins the nomination, Gingrich included.

BTW, there is NO difference. ANYONE who thinks that allowing Obama to win over ANY Republican candidate is a loser. Don’t care who the candidate is. If Romney or Rick loses to Obama via the Gingrich-or-else-crowd, the blood of our dead USA will be on their hands.


118 posted on 03/22/2012 7:43:52 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Steamburg

Let’s see: Catholic Church, around over 2000 years.....Joey Smith, Inc., less than 200 years.


119 posted on 03/22/2012 7:44:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: true believer forever

Tweet from Newt Gingrich retweeted by his campaign manager:

“Rick Santorum is dead wrong. Any GOP nominee will be better than Obama.”


120 posted on 03/22/2012 7:45:22 PM PDT by baysider
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To: al_c
And apparently many here on FR agree ... those that refuse to vote for Romney in the general election if he gets the GOP nomination.

I'm not sure they're Santorum or Newt supporters, they just are very determined not to have to take one for the team again. I think eventually, though, the reality of what another 4 years of Obama will mean will eventually sink in, and they will do the right thing. They are patriots at heart, I truly believe.

121 posted on 03/22/2012 7:45:43 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: true believer forever

Santorum is 100% correct. Can someone explain the differences between Romney and Obummer when it gets down it. Romney has made little issue of Obamacare. Romney is all for Cap and Tax. Romney is all for Man Made Global Warming. Romney is all for Mandates to force citizens to obey Govt. Romney is all for Abortion. Romney won’t even call Obummer a Socialist because his politics have mirrored his too closely. I don’t care what he says today. Just look at what he has actually done in his past.

Romney blows and everyone knows it. Even you folks here feigning “outrage” at Santorum finally saying out loud what we all have been saying here privately know he is right. Romney is a one way ticket to catastrophic failure in November.


122 posted on 03/22/2012 7:45:58 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: true believer forever

Maybe people will start listening to me but I doubt it. Time to unite and focus on the House and Senate. Win a veto proof majority and shove it down Romney’s throat.


123 posted on 03/22/2012 7:46:44 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: true believer forever
They are patriots at heart, I truly believe.

We'll see.

Bookmark

124 posted on 03/22/2012 7:47:05 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Clintonfatigued
I agree CF.

Santorum is a sanctimonious dildo and he just proved it.

125 posted on 03/22/2012 7:47:17 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: BobL
It's not that Santorum doesn't have a point.

The problem is, he doesn't seem to think you will mind joining him while he shrugs his shoulders and watches the ship sink.

He's out of his league. And he isn't thinking about what he's doing to the rest of us.

126 posted on 03/22/2012 7:48:41 PM PDT by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: Califelephant
Rick Santorum: “Sure, I can come up with something every bit as stupid as Eric Fehrnstrom. Let me think a minute ... I got it! ‘If Mitt’s the Republican nominee, then you might as well vote for Obama!’ How’s that?”

this is what happens when rick isn't stealing newt's lines, and using Newt's ideas as his own during his speeches... people see how the Santorum brain works. Not too encouraging, is it?

127 posted on 03/22/2012 7:48:50 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: Cato in PA

“How is Obama worse than Romney?” Gee that is really hard to figure out after over 3 years of watching the News. But I really don’t expect Romney to be apologizing all around the world for the U.S.. And I think some people here are going overboard with ‘hating’ someone they have never met.


128 posted on 03/22/2012 7:49:53 PM PDT by dvan (Send Them Home!)
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To: toldyou
I’ve wanted Newt since 2008 anyway, but wow...I just lost any respect I ever had for Santorum.

Ditto, ditto ditto!
129 posted on 03/22/2012 7:50:30 PM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this...")
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To: parksstp

Stop wasting your time then and start working for Obama, because Santorum isn’t going to make it. Just three short years ago Santorum couldn’t give Romney enough praise. Now he is suggesting it is better to vote for Obama. He told us he was a team player, but what team is he on? This is inexcusable and reckless campaigning.


130 posted on 03/22/2012 7:50:48 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: BobL

Yep. Goldwater destroyed Johnson and Reagan repealed all that GOP-E crap foisted upon the hallowed conservatives.

In the meantime, the left has systematically infiltrated every aspect of government and education for the last 70 years. You’re waiting for a true believer to convince the entire nation, and the Congress, that they don’t know what they’re doing in one Presidential election.

If Jim DeMint isn’t a conservative, who’ve you got?


131 posted on 03/22/2012 7:50:57 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: Toespi

I think I’ve figured out Santorum’s problem-—he’s a serial endorser!


132 posted on 03/22/2012 7:53:35 PM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: WOSG
Goodness me, Santorum is NOT a Christian Socialist, not even close. He was one of the more conservative senators in the Senate on multiple fronts. But not a pure free markets guy. He’s more like a Pat Buchanan lite.

I still think it is the best way to think about Santorum - it explains his funny (in the American context) combination of big government social conservatism, explicit hostility to libertarianism and the separation of Church and state, and support for unions. He's not only not a pure free markets guy, he's not any kind of friend of liberty.

Monty Python wrote of the dead parrot pining for the fjords, Santorum always seems to me to be pining for Pio Nono.

He does share a good deal with Buchanan, including jumping the shark, though I haven't detected the hints of antisemitism in Santorum one gets with Buchanan.

133 posted on 03/22/2012 7:53:47 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Persae Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: JmyBryan

Agreed.

If a person waits for a true blue perfect Conservative to vote for for President, how long will that person be waiting?

50 years? 100?


134 posted on 03/22/2012 7:54:21 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: true believer forever

I pray that you are correct. I don’t care for Mr. Etch a Sketch either, but I don’t want another 4 years of this administration.


135 posted on 03/22/2012 7:54:24 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: true believer forever; All

Words fail? Words fail at all the posters on this thread who have the vapors over a simple statement that is true.

He’s saying if you don’t give voters a distinct choice, voters will stick with the guy they know vs someone who’s almost the same but has indicated they can change at will (etch a sketch reference)

I swear too many of you sound like a bunch of highschool girls, screaming OMG, OMG, OMG, with your hair on fire.

READ AND COMPREHEND ......

or.....you can all just keep bashing Santorum over nothing

.....which was really the point of this thread all along wasn’t it?


136 posted on 03/22/2012 7:54:33 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: true believer forever

Everyone says the same thing here, but then when Santorum says it, it’s terrible.


137 posted on 03/22/2012 7:55:51 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: lightman

Hummmmmmmmmmm! Just wondering how many Liberal infiltrators we have on this forum??????????? Who love to stir the pot!!!


138 posted on 03/22/2012 7:56:01 PM PDT by dvan (Send Them Home!)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Do you really believe that Romney would tread on the constitution the way Obama does?

Do you believe that he would side with the Muslims if put to the test?

No, I am not a Romney supporter, but if he is our candidate come November, I will definitely be voting for him.

And the outrage at Santorum saying what he did? Think someone should tell him that he was hoping to run against OBAMA, not against Romney, nor against Newt or Ron Paul. And if he thinks that Obama is preferable to Romney, he is showing that he only cares about himself.

139 posted on 03/22/2012 7:56:25 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Cato in PA
How is Obama worse than Romney? I keep asking this over and over again to people like you, but all I seem to get is the same party-line refrain over and over again.

Some people may be reluctent to defending Romney on this forum because they will get kicked off it. Another possibility is Romney's superiority over Obama is self-evident, and people are unwilling to try refuting your framed argument because they believe it is unlikely that any amount of truth will enlighten you.

140 posted on 03/22/2012 7:56:29 PM PDT by Once-Ler (There are two paths! One is America, the other is Occupy!)
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To: toldyou

The Problem as I see it with Romney is that he will be such a mediocre President that even if he does win he will be so middle of the road as to “not upset the apple cart” that the economy will not bloom and then in 4 years it will assure that the democrats take back power on the whole meme that the “economy didn’t recover”.

Not to mention any GOP president is going to be so damned hated no matter how “moderate” they are. Mittens will get so damned gun shy that he will be ineffective and the MSM and the Democrat controlled media will smell blood and keep attacking him even as he retreats and this will paralyze him to what needs to be done to restore the economy and defuse all of Obama’s horrible regulatory actions.

Newt is going to be hated like hell anyways and HE KNOWS THAT, but he also knows that he will have the people who put him there behind even if the Media doesn’t paint it that way every night at 5:00pm.

So therefore, Newt (who thrives on antagonism instead of flinching from it) will take the bold measures to recover the economy despite being thrashed every night on the MSM news channels. In Four years the MSM will be flabbergasted like their were on election night in 1984, because the man on the street will notice the economy improvement.

Mitt is a Flincher, Newt is a Clincher

Definition of a Clincher:

a decisive fact, argument, act, or remark

Definition of a Flincher:

to withdraw or shrink from or as if from pain

We are so SOL if Either Mittens gets in or Barry gets a second term.

Mittens would only slow things down and then in four years the GOP would be blamed so much but with little to show we would still be in an economic malaise the likes of Carter’s worst dreams. This would GUARANTEE a Democrat Victory over the house the senate and even the presidency in 2016. They would not be pulling any punches as they would run someone that would make Obama look like a middle of the road moderate. Because they know they would have a very good chance of winning. Not to mention the class warfare game that could be played to Bolshevik conclusion during that election if we get Romney and mediocre performance out of him which is very much likely.

Of course Obama winning would be a very much “nothing to lose” second term that would see him likely either completely destroying the economy so badly that they play the game of “Destroy and Support” in that they would destroy the economy and then support the people as the “great savior” thus ensuring either “Glorious Revolution” or the mass construction project of making millions more so dependent that they will have a permanent grip on power that would only come undone with Blood sweat and tears, but mostly Blood and Tears.

ABO and ABR, because we really need Newt or maybe Santorum if we get desperate, heck I would even take, heaven forbid (I can’t believe I am saying this), Ron Paul over Romney for the reasons above.

So I repeat once more: Newt is the Clincher, and Mitt is the Flincher.


141 posted on 03/22/2012 7:56:44 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: true believer forever

Santorum is an ass.


142 posted on 03/22/2012 7:57:23 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: Girlene

“He’s saying if you don’t give voters a distinct choice, voters will stick with the guy they know”

Unfortunately with his ill-chosen statement, Rick Santorum just cemented the choice for all of us: Romney or Obama.


143 posted on 03/22/2012 7:58:06 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: true believer forever

>> GO BACK TO NEWT AND STAY THERE!!!

LOL, I never left.


144 posted on 03/22/2012 7:58:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: parksstp
The only reason the Newt people are outraged at this comment is because it is just something else the can beat up on him for. Santorum is right and we all know it. Romney has alienated over half the party with his slash and burn campaign. The Newt people hate him and the Rick people hate him now. The sad fact is that the only thing Romney has to compete is wheelbarrows full of cash and this seek and destroy method of campaigning. He will be totally destroyed by the professional sleaze merchants in the General. The Rats use this method to perfection because they too are devoid of morals, ideas and intellect.


145 posted on 03/22/2012 7:58:36 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: true believer forever

Political suicide. Wonder if any Louisiana voters are paying attention?


146 posted on 03/22/2012 7:58:48 PM PDT by citizen (The Dims will all unite for Zero. We must soon unite behind our challenger and back him to victory!)
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To: true believer forever
" Words fail. "

No, words don't fail, use your brain for a change and actually understand what Rick is actually saying inspead of taking it totally out of context and shape and mold it into what the Newt supporters want people to think and believe.

My Oh MY are the Newt supporters trying to make hey or make something out of nothing by taking Rick's comments out of context to mold and shape it into what they want you to think.

Here is Rick's actual comment : " "You win by giving people a choice. You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who's just going to be a little different than the person in there," Santorum told supporters in San Antonio. "If you're going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future." ...


Rick is actually saying there is not much difference between Mitt Romney and Obama when you look at their records.
Rick goes on to say that if that's what you want in a candidate, then why vote for Mitt Romney when there is someone else in office as just about the same ?
Rick is saying, vote for someone who is NOT like Obama and Mitt Romney, Rick IS NOT saying to vote for Obama, he is saying look for someone who is not like Obama and Mitt Romney, the only consistent conservative in this race now.
Newt had his chance and failed, now he is out of money and losing support..... Rick now is the only conservative candidate in this race now and that is what Rick is pointing out now.
147 posted on 03/22/2012 7:59:09 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: true believer forever
" Words fail. "

No, words don't fail, use your brain for a change and actually understand what Rick is actually saying instead of taking it totally out of context and shape and mold it into what the Newt supporters want people to think and believe.

My Oh MY are the Newt supporters trying to make hay or make something out of nothing by taking Rick's comments out of context to mold and shape it into what they want you to think.

Here is Rick's actual comment : " "You win by giving people a choice. You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who's just going to be a little different than the person in there," Santorum told supporters in San Antonio. "If you're going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future." ...


Rick is actually saying there is not much difference between Mitt Romney and Obama when you look at their records.
Rick goes on to say that if that's what you want in a candidate, then why vote for Mitt Romney when there is someone else in office as just about the same ?
Rick is saying, vote for someone who is NOT like Obama and Mitt Romney, Rick IS NOT saying to vote for Obama, he is saying look for someone who is not like Obama and Mitt Romney, the only consistent conservative in this race now.
Newt had his chance and failed, now he is out of money and losing support..... Rick now is the only conservative candidate in this race now and that is what Rick is pointing out now.
148 posted on 03/22/2012 7:59:37 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: dfwgator
Romney is stealth socialist, who will sugar-coat his socialism to force it down our throats....

I think Romney will mold himself to the new reality, and work out just fine. He'll certainly be 100x better than Obama.

149 posted on 03/22/2012 8:00:26 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: driftdiver
I think Romney is loyal to himself, his power and his wallet.

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I don't like Romney because of his politics, as a man he is generous to a fault. Those around him say he is kind and generous with his time and money. He goes out of his way to help others. I can not fault him as a person, just as a RINO.

He says he is not a socialist, in fact he says he is conservative. He and I probably have different definitions of conservative. If he is any definition of conservative that I have ever seen then it will be a pleasant surprise to me. I hope 5 years from now I can say I was pleasantly surprised.

To stay home or say that any Republican is not better than Obama is just stupid. I realize there are people on this board that believe that. This is the place where you can find more understanding of truth than anywhere in the blogsphere but still that idea is just stupid.

Michelle Bachman should have been our candidate, but I realize that not everybody believes that. That not everybody believes the way I do does not make them stupid. Intelligent people can have different opinions; however, one of us voting for any Democrat or not voting for any Republican shows at best an uncontrollable temper at worst, stupidity.

Hopefully Santorums temper got the best of him and he will modify his remark or correct it or even say he was misquoted. When Michelle dropped out I shifted my support to Santorum. He recently has made some really stupid comments and I realize now that he probably is not quite ready to be president. Gingrich could walk into the oval office and be ready on the first day to go to work but I don't think Newt could ever be elected even though he could make mincemeat out of Obama in a debate. The numbers don't work for Newt even if Romney doesn't get it. A brokered convention will get us someone we won't want for sure. I know it ain't over till the fat lady sings but it is looking like we will soon have RINO Willard for our Nominee. He's not good but he is the best we got for now. I will not stay home election day and certainly will not be voting for a Democrat, ever.

150 posted on 03/22/2012 8:00:26 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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