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To: Bon mots
The elephant in the room -- the one thing that is never discussed in all these stories of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church -- is that it is obvious that homosexuals joined the priesthood to further their predatory goals. How high did that go? I don't know. But the Catholic Church was definitely a magnet for homosexual predators. How could that be otherwise? Why is that never discussed? Whatever the blame that the church itself deserves, at least part of the blame should be reserved for homosexuals -- and homosexuality.

But that is never discussed. Why?

3 posted on 03/20/2012 4:06:12 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

They joined the clergy (Catholic and otherwise) for the same reason they became scoutmasters & teachers: easy prey.

During the height of the scandal the Catholic League reported five incidents in five days in NYC public schools - and it received NO coverage. At least the Vatican has banned “celibate” deviants from the seminaries; that was long overdue, and cost them millions (on top of the faith of many of the victims).


4 posted on 03/20/2012 4:10:08 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: samtheman

I’ll tell you how high it goes, because we know:

In 1965, a black mass* was held within the Vatican. Pope Paul VI possibly knew for he famously yet cryptically declared that “the smoke of Satan has entered the sanctuary.” But apparently, he did not know who was involved. Maddenlingly, Paul VI would issue orthodox, strong, clear dogmatic teaching, such as Humanae Vitae, upholding Catholic doctrines on sexuality, abortion, and birth control, while allowing all manner of liturgical abuse and heresy to not only flourish, but propagate.

One top contender was Fr. Joseph Bernadin, the papal camerlingo (the camerlingo runs the papal household) from Charleston, SC. Charleston is where the Southern Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, which uses a black mass, was founded. Bernadin would, very seperately, be accused of molesting children with the eucharist, which is where any Catholics’ heads should absolutely explode.

Bernadin nonetheless became the golden boy in the American Catholic church. He was promoted to Archbishop of Cincinnati, where he was made the founding head of the National Council of Catholic Bishops (later the USCCB). There, he founded the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, which provides seed money for radical, leftist groups. One group they founded was the ACORN, led by satanist and anarchist Saul Alinsky, whose disciples include Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

At the head of the USCCB, he authorized the publication of the New American Bible, the first edition of which falsely claimed that the ancient church believed in a flat earth, denied the historicity of miracles in the New and Old testament, and included heresy after heresy in the footnotes. (If you anyone owns a New American Bible, and is objecting, hang with me a bit more...) The USCCB made the NAB the required bible of the American Catholic church (which is not to say that people couldn’t privately own other bibles).

Back in the 1960s, priests working with Alinsky had been booted from Chicago when the local archbishop realized how evil they were. They were quickly snatched up by the University of Notre Dame, which soon the Land of Lakes conference. At that conference, nearly every major Catholic university in the United States would declare its intellectual separation from the doctrines of Rome. But in 1982, Bernadin would be made Archbishop of Chicago, and soon would be considered “the American pope.”

As de-facto leader of the Catholic church, Bernadin taught that abortion was wrong, but that voters should consider the totality of a candidate’s charity; there support for “social justice” throughout a lifespan could outweigh the passing mistake of supporting abortion. Meanwhile, he shared an apartment with Milwaukee Archbishop Weakland, who is now openly homosexual. Bernadin and Weakland had both been accused of raping children. Weakland, through his association with Bernadin, ran the liturgical “reforms” of the American Catholic church.

But in 1978, an exorcist was made Pope. At first, he seemingly took the counsel of his papal nuncios and national leaders, having further promoted Bernadin, Mahony, Weakland, etc., But by 1980, at least, the surging tide of homosexual abuse began to decline, according to the analysis by John Jay study. By 1990, the rate had declined over 95%. Almost all of the news stories you hear about even today involve abuse which happened in the first half of John Paul II’s reign, or earlier.

John Paul II appointed as his enforcer of doctrine yet another exorcist, Joseph Ratzinger. You have to understand how rare 20th-century, European exorcists are, to understand what a truly amazing situation it is that the Catholic Church has been led by successive exorcists. By Vatican II, exorcism, used largely to missionize pagan lands, was virtually unheard of in Europe... for hundreds of years!!!

Now, many people have complained that John Paul II and Benedict XVI have “covered up” the abuse. The truth is that long before the media got wind of the problem, abuse rates fell by 95%. I believe, however, that the heretics and informally schismatic rebels controlled far too much of the Catholic church for such a direct campaign.

Had the pope merely ousted the bad guys, they simply would have declared open schism, announced that the Holy Spirit had led them to further reforms “in the spirit of Vatican II,” and they would have ended the institution of the papacy, leading the Catholic Church into a position like the Episcopalian Church, where homosexuality is simply celebrated. Remember, nearly all of the sex-abuse victims were post-pubescent. The response would simply be to “help abuse victims shed their repression, and fully embrace the sexuality God gave them.”

Don’t think that this isn’t happening in other churches! Satan is attacking all Christian churches. He doesn’t even need to do any wierd stuff in the Liberal churches; his minions run them: the Episcopal Church, the United Methodist Church, the United Church of Christ, the PCUSA (”first Presbyterian”), the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, etc. Don’t abandon these churches! Reclaim the for Christ! Understand that you are fighting a spiritual battle, and you can defeat the present leaders!!!

Pray for correct doctrine in your church.

Pray for correct worship, that all worship will truly be submission to Christ.

Pray to drive out the devil.

But also, beware in the conservative churches. In the Catholic Churches, the virginity of a priest is most valuable; in other churches, the virginity of a young woman is, so the diabolical attacks are on young women. But the sex abuse is rampant, and is being covered up by the church leaders, just as the Catholic Church leaders covered up sexual abuse in the 1970s and 1980s.

Most fraternities and sororities uses sexual degradation and desensitization as part of their initiation. Do not accept people from these fraternities and sororities into your church leadership, unless their repentance has been clear, and their specific sins detailed.

How many church leaders are freemasons? Yes, Washington, et al, were freemasons, but those freemasons had only three degrees, and none of the pagan worship. The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry introduced 33 degrees of progressively more pagan rites.

(*Note of explanation: according to Catholic doctrine, a black mass is a mass which makes a mockery of Christ, His Church, His Word, or His Eucharist. In doing such, they are inherently diabolical. They do not necessarily have any obvious worship of the devil. At the same time, any old-time Catholic would recognize the mass as invalid: use of invalid elements in confecting the eucharist, such as honey bread, impure wine, non-noble vessels; omission of key prayers; avoidance of the Holy Name; heretical innovations within key prayers. Malachi Martin’s depiction was quite apparently Satanic, but his account is fictionalized.)


11 posted on 03/20/2012 5:33:09 AM PDT by dangus
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To: samtheman

The story talks about minors having the castration done on them. What does that have to do with homosexuals becoming priests?


39 posted on 03/20/2012 1:51:49 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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