Can the President Kill You?

Townhall.com ^ | March 8, 2012 | Judge Andrew Napolitano

[jwalsh07]

So who decides who is a terrorist? Militia organizations have been deemed hate groups in America. Not such a big leap from hate group to terrorist. Are they fair game for drones while outside the continental US?

[HiTech RedNeck]

Maybe it would do Barack Obama good to sign up for FR and debate these things right here.

[Tunehead54]

Quick! Add me please - someone just rang my doorbell! ;-)

[HiTech RedNeck]

Those were technically self defense of Federales bent on a capture, but the way they went down looks like a provocation to a kill.

[Semper Mark]

"Oh. Who's being naive, Kay?"

That scene is exactly what came to my mind when I read the thread title.

[null and void]

You have to threaten to sic the Mods on me to get on the list. We have our rulz

[butterdezillion]

Perhaps it already has been.

[ml/nj]

That wasn’t personal, that was war en masse.

So that made it okay? And BTW, it is my understanding that there was no war declared. Lincoln just decided how he wanted things. Obama is doing the same thing.

ML/NJ

[Dead Corpse]

Yep. Anyone saying "tin foil" is completely disregarding the innumerable instances where the camels nose is closely followed by the rest of the camel.

From gun control, to energy production, to the war on some drugs and back again.

At some point you realize the slippery slope you thought you were on it really more of a cliff. 33 feet per second/per second builds up steam really damn quickly once you get going.

[Little Ray]

It still comes out that they can kill if they darn well please. Might have to use the “He’s coming right at me” defense, but they can still kill you. They don’t even have to worry about collateral damage...

[HiTech RedNeck]

The constitution provides for war. Its drafters never foresaw a civil war and did not include provisions for this. You could say Lincoln accepted the secession but then waged a war to recapture the seceded states.

[HiTech RedNeck]

I’m speaking of the ideal, as if God himself made himself available to testify, and you got only unvarnished truth.

[Dead Corpse]

"Well, we had significant intelligence that Mr. Smith was working closely with Al Queda in Des Moines, IA. We currently have DHS and the FBI manufacturing investigating numerous electronic communications and possible banking ties to groups linked to the global terror threat."

[philman_36]

Holder argued in his speech that arresting al-Awlaki -- who has never been indicted or otherwise charged with a crime but who is believed to have encouraged terrorist attacks in the U.S. -- would have been impractical, that killing him was the only option available to prevent him from committing more harm, and that Congress must have contemplated that when it enacted the AUMF.
Well if that were true then such deliberations should be available for support and should have been quoted.
If it isn't in the deliberations then what is his justification?

Or has Congress not done its job properly and it did not consider all of
the ramifications of the bill which they so quickly passed into law. /sarcasm

[KarlInOhio]

Can the President Kill You?

Let's check with thousands of Confederate troops who were killed in battle for an answer.

If you make war against the United States, the fact that you are or were a U.S. citizen shouldn't save you.

[joe fonebone]

Bushie II and his congress strike again.... what people fail time and again to realize ( there are many on this forum ) is that the crack in the door is the opening the axe needs to break it down....

[joe fonebone]

if I recall my history, the confederates fired the first shot...

[Lady Jag]

That’s the plan.

[Dead Corpse]

How about if those in control of the government make war on their own people?

What then...

[Owl558]

“...but a whole lot of Americans were killed and their properties destroyed during Sherman’s March to the Sea.”

Your assertion is plain silly. Those poor people were citizens of the CSA, not the USA. You don’t get to have it both ways.

By seceeding, the citizens Confederacy specifically renounced their citizenship in the USA and ALL rights associated with being members of the Union. That’s what the word means. No (or very, very few) United States Citizens were killed by Union soldiers fighting the Confederacy.