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Racial divide: Minority students face more discipline, data reveals
MSNBC ^ | 3/6/2012 | MSNBC Staff

Posted on 03/06/2012 1:08:55 AM PST by South40

Black and Latino students across the United States are far more likely to be suspended than white students - and far less likely to have access to rigorous college-prep courses, according to a sweeping study released on Tuesday by the U.S. Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights.

The trove of data, collected from 72,000 schools serving 85 percent of the nation's students, revealed tremendous disparities in the public school experiences of minority and white students.

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1 posted on 03/06/2012 1:09:02 AM PST by South40
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To: South40

Well, good thing that wouldn’t happen here in L.A. as there are no more white kids in the district..


2 posted on 03/06/2012 1:23:03 AM PST by max americana
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To: South40
Minority students face more discipline

That's because they are less disciplined coming into the schools. I imagine there is not a lot of self-discipline, therefore, someone needs to teach them. If they and their race-pimp politicians don't like it, they are going to have to live with the consequences.

3 posted on 03/06/2012 1:46:11 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: South40

How awful!

They must stop disciplining those poor little minority children!

/s


4 posted on 03/06/2012 1:47:59 AM PST by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: South40
far less likely to have access to rigorous college-prep courses

And, if they don't have the self-discipline mention in my previous post, they won't stand a chance of passing those rigorous courses even if they did take them.

5 posted on 03/06/2012 1:48:15 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: South40

Insufficient data... You can’t keep banging the minority drum without specifics. For what abusive actions, for how long, etc. I’d bet that they only looked at specific targets to make their statements. That is always the way it happens. I’d also bet that minorities were the most egregious instigators also - not that you would know here...


6 posted on 03/06/2012 1:49:37 AM PST by Deagle
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To: South40
Black and Latino students across the United States are far more likely to be suspended than white students...

Umm, 'few fathers in homes ... bad cultural values'...

7 posted on 03/06/2012 1:50:43 AM PST by GOPJ (Democrat-media complex¬óburied stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: South40
I see that they neglected to report on the nature of the offenses that got the students expelled. That wouldn't have anything to do with it, right?
8 posted on 03/06/2012 1:55:58 AM PST by stilloftyhenight
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To: South40

according to a sweeping study released on Tuesday by the U.S. Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights.

Just think, without a DOE, this sweeping study might not have been hatched. I suggest that the DOE is in the business of self justification.


9 posted on 03/06/2012 1:56:41 AM PST by wita
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To: South40
Reminds me of the race-hustlers' argument about black murderers being more likely to get the death penalty, than white murderers.

While they might be right with the raw statistics, they neglected to consider the underlying crimes.

Iirc a closer look at this phenomenon revealed that murders committed by whites were more likely to be crimes of passion, which are not usually death penalty eligible crimes. Murders committed by blacks were more likely to be cold-blooded stranger murders, i.e. death penalty eligible crimes.

With these new stats about school suspensions, you can't know what's going on unless you break down the categories of suspensions. Was the kid suspended because he acted like a jerk? Or because he brought a knife to school?

10 posted on 03/06/2012 2:18:58 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: shhrubbery!
Are you aware of the fact that the FBI does not separate Hispanics from Europeans in crime statistics. They cover both as white, so when a black gang banger and a Hispanic gangster hurt each other it comes out as a white on black crime.
11 posted on 03/06/2012 2:40:45 AM PST by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: stilloftyhenight

You’re 100% correct. It may be a poorly written article but it seems the study focused solely on the results and not the causes. It makes sense to a person like Duncan to argue his case from that viewpoint.


12 posted on 03/06/2012 2:50:00 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Deagle

“Insufficient data...”

You’re right; my children go to school with a bunch of minorities that are never disciplined (they get it at home - Indians, Orientals, Arabs). The only people getting disciplined are unruly whites (and rightly so).

It is impossible to obtain an education where a large number of “other minorities” are in the classroom - they are the worst environments filled with distractions as the hopeless pass time.


13 posted on 03/06/2012 3:15:19 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: South40
The Black Mafia, the Democrats, and the Liberal Media must be colluding on "victim" stories this week:

Disparate Impact: Black Lawmakers and Ethics Investigations


14 posted on 03/06/2012 3:38:17 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: South40
What BS! It is true, however, speaking as one who currently works in a high school, the reason is that they commit a disparate number of offenses. Also, the reason for that is the nature of discipline taught in their family units and cultural behavior that mirrors school behavior...

Mike

15 posted on 03/06/2012 3:40:17 AM PST by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: South40
Another verification of the racism inherent in socialism.
16 posted on 03/06/2012 3:52:32 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (This Message Contains Privileged Attorney-Client Communications)
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To: South40

Well, according to the FBIs Uniform Crime Reports, black males, who comprise less than 6 percent of the population, committed over 50 percent of the murders in the USA from 1976 to 2005.

So it is not surprising that this same demographic is suspended from school more often than other less crime prone demographics.

What is revealing about this article, is that it is reported by the Corrupt Liberal Media without any perspectives other than white racism must be the cause of these suspensions and school disciplinings.

The operative word in the “Corrupt Liberal Media” is “corrupt”


17 posted on 03/06/2012 3:54:06 AM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: South40

expect ti be inundated with stories like this up to the election.


18 posted on 03/06/2012 4:00:35 AM PST by hecht (Murray use your coaster)
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To: MichaelP

“Racial divide: Minority students face more discipline, data reveals”

Using the same bogus “logic” this header could be just as accurately written:

“Gender divide: Male students face more discipline, data reveals”

or

“Gender divide: Males incarcerated more often than females”

Just another attempt of the Corrupt Liberal Media to inject their racist agenda into their “reporting”

Liberalism has killed journalism,


19 posted on 03/06/2012 4:04:08 AM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: South40

Aren’t college prep courses available to anyone who has the grades to take them. They are here.

Next thing you know having an education will be an act of discrimination.


20 posted on 03/06/2012 4:13:32 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Uncle Lonny

As one who was there when the bussing began our Jr High was turned upside down from the infusion of yute from across town. A few wanted to study but the rest only wanted to disrupt the classes. Or start fights. And woe be unto those that got in the way of the stampede when the lunch bell rang.


21 posted on 03/06/2012 4:23:32 AM PST by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: South40

and does it state that in the schools where my kids have gone that the blacks are the ones who for the most part are causing the trouble, very disrespectful and are causing trouble.

This is not about color this is about the black community and the problems they have.

Still saying that can be classed as racist to the left wing kooks too because facts hurt their feelings


22 posted on 03/06/2012 4:30:26 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: Right Wing Assault

no they go to the black colleges which discriminate against whites and Asians, I’m sure those same blacks can go there, sit there, listen to I pods all day and leave with a degree.

Then they can go to a hospital, get a job as a nurse etc and then when the hospital finds that the degree was useless, the person has no clue what they’re doing they can’t be fired


23 posted on 03/06/2012 4:32:52 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: South40

Same as it ever was...


24 posted on 03/06/2012 4:33:56 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: South40

This could have been written 40 years ago.

They have been screaming this crap for 40 years or more.

They get disciplined more in schools for the same reason there are more of them in prison. They are the ones breaking the rules.

It’s just that simple.


25 posted on 03/06/2012 4:37:02 AM PST by Venturer
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To: South40
Black and Latino students across the United States are far more likely to be suspended than white students

And far more likely to be trouble-makers and violent.

26 posted on 03/06/2012 4:38:36 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

funny how they always leave the real facts out of their stories.

Having seen and heard from my kids then I can honestly say the black community has massive problems .

Even my kids and their friends have said the biggest trouble makers in their schools are the blacks, the most likely who will be in trouble is mostly blacks and who just mess about and who think school is a joke are mostly blacks.

That is racist to the left wing kooks out there but facts are facts and their social issues have caused nothing but more trouble and to think there are now some on our side saying social issues should be ignored so long as there is money in the pockets.


27 posted on 03/06/2012 4:49:20 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: South40

Negro and latino students across the United States require far more discipline that white students, according to my data.


28 posted on 03/06/2012 4:49:27 AM PST by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Gasshog
As one who was there when the bussing began our Jr High was turned upside down from the infusion of yute from across town. A few wanted to study but the rest only wanted to disrupt the classes. Or start fights.

I was there, too. Before bussing, nothing every happened at our school After bussing, they locked us in our classrooms and pulled down those big metal gates in the hallways and you didn't want to get caught in the stairwells. Yes, totally against fire rules but it was to keep down the violence. Big surprise, my family moved the following year.

29 posted on 03/06/2012 4:54:15 AM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: South40
Black and Latino students across the United States are far more likely to be suspended than white students...

What do you expect when "acting white" is a pejorative in black and latino societies?

30 posted on 03/06/2012 5:12:01 AM PST by Roccus
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To: Rannug

Simply watch the local news.


31 posted on 03/06/2012 5:19:36 AM PST by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: South40
I have a simple solution for this problem. Simply confer a Juris Doctorate upon these oppressed people from Harvard Law School, based solely on the color of their skin. Then, who knows, someday they could even be President!
32 posted on 03/06/2012 5:27:20 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: bgill

In the early 1970s’ blacks were bussed to my elementary school. One black boy would continually molest me and other second graders by rubbing his crotch against our backsides. He would push us down on the playground and lay on top of us- no doubt in simulation of what he saw at home. Another boy would expose himself to everyone and anyone. Not much could be done about it. Oh, and keep your lunch close by. They would steal your lunch and eat it in the coat closet and you would be without.
Also, the entire ‘remedial class’ was black. I was in gifted and talented classes - we were given books to read and left alone while the teacher’s attention was given to the ‘remedial’ students for entire classes.


33 posted on 03/06/2012 5:37:14 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: South40
Wonder what those two black angels were thinking when they doused that 13 year old white boy with gasoline and setting him on fire.

Just poor wittle chilrun.

34 posted on 03/06/2012 5:37:16 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: South40

—Racial divide: Minority students face more discipline, data reveals—

That’s nothing! Just compare the ratio of Male students to female students! That’s the real discrimination.

Then again, maybe male students just do more things that call for discipline than female students.

If you get my drift...


35 posted on 03/06/2012 5:37:45 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: South40

I think this study should be taken at face value. The public education system clearly is irremediably racist and should be abolished. Vouchers are the only practicable remedy.


36 posted on 03/06/2012 6:24:59 AM PST by sphinx
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To: South40

C’mon folks. This is just part of the MSM’s Obama support agenda.
Since minority children (except, I bet, for Asians...) face more discipline, this must STILL be a racist country - Re-elect Obama and assuage your racist guilt...


37 posted on 03/06/2012 7:13:20 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray

yep their forced integration and busing has really worked, is that what they’re saying


38 posted on 03/06/2012 10:31:47 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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