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Holder: US can legally kill Americans in terror groups
MSNBC ^ | 3/6/2012 | Pete Williams

Posted on 03/05/2012 11:31:46 PM PST by South40

The U.S. government is legally justified in killing its own citizens overseas if they are involved in plotting terror attacks against America, Attorney General Eric Holder said Monday, offering the Obama administration's most detailed explanation so far of its controversial targeted killing program.

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The Fifth Amendment provides that no one can be "deprived of life" without due process of law. But that due process, Holder said, doesn't necessarily come from a court.

"Due process and judicial process are not one and the same, particularly when it comes to national security. The Constitution guarantees due process, not judicial process," the attorney general said.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: doj; holder; terrorism; wot

1 posted on 03/05/2012 11:31:51 PM PST by South40
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To: South40

Can the U.S. say “90% of guns in Mexico come from the United States” and then work hard to make it become a reality?


2 posted on 03/05/2012 11:46:53 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: South40

I’m for public hanging. Didn’t we do that once to traitors?


3 posted on 03/06/2012 12:02:06 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: South40; xzins
Due process and judicial process are not one and the same, particularly when it comes to national security.

Isn't this the same clown who was arguing that foreign terrorists in Gitmo should be given Civilian Trials in United States courts? Didn't he represent these terrorists before he was the AG?

4 posted on 03/06/2012 12:06:06 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: South40
I am thinking that this administration is a terror to the Constitution, by their actions you can see who is more dangerous and conflicted.....

FYEH, traitorous swine that you are, and your Dept of JustUS.

5 posted on 03/06/2012 12:25:04 AM PST by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” Tho)
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To: South40

More non-news. The US can kill any opponents of Obama.


6 posted on 03/06/2012 12:42:05 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: South40

Holder is a fascist, as is Obama. People STILL do not get it yet.

Good Read:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


7 posted on 03/06/2012 1:17:23 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascist info.. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: South40

Coming to a gun clinging Bible study group near you.


8 posted on 03/06/2012 1:48:13 AM PST by BipolarBob (When do the salmon return to Capistrano?)
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To: South40

To define terror by Obama’s standards is to point a finger at returning servermen, conservatives, and any group opposed to him. Obama now can kill them all.


9 posted on 03/06/2012 1:51:35 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: South40

“Holder: US can legally kill Americans in terror groups”

Let’s play jeopardy.
What is batfe?


10 posted on 03/06/2012 1:54:40 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: South40
>Holder: US can legally kill Americans in terror groups

Janet Nappy's uncle Janet Reno tole him so!

11 posted on 03/06/2012 2:03:24 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (BO Stinks! Like Mitts magic underwear!)
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To: South40

Based on Holder’s summary, i.e. The Constitution guarantees due process, not judicial process then Americans should be able to kill their politicians if they represent a threat to America.

I’m just saying...


12 posted on 03/06/2012 2:29:08 AM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: maddog55

“”Due process and judicial process are not one and the same, particularly when it comes to national security. “

Holder just blew up his rationale opposing military tribunals for terrorists. Wait a minute! Maybe this is actually his objective.


13 posted on 03/06/2012 2:52:10 AM PST by Makana
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To: South40

Andrew Breitbart?


14 posted on 03/06/2012 3:16:14 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: South40

“Holder: US can legally kill Americans in terror groups”

Does this include Obama’s two terrorist friends, Ayers and Dohrn? Both should be executed for their roles in terror attacks which led to the deaths of police officers. As for Holder, he helped in the pardons of members of the Puerto Rican Marxist-revolutionary terror group, the FALN. Also in communist Weather Underground member Susan Rosenberg’s pardon. She was caught transporting 800 pounds of explosives for upcoming attacks (in 1981). Bill Clinton, with Holder’s help, pardoned her.


15 posted on 03/06/2012 4:53:09 AM PST by ETL (oB)
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Sorry, just correcting tagline screw up.


16 posted on 03/06/2012 4:55:27 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Considering that the current administration & its minions are apparently a “terror group”, just what does he mean? Self-loathing suicide???? I am confused.


17 posted on 03/06/2012 4:58:06 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: South40
But that due process, Holder said, doesn't necessarily come from a court.

If the King of Amerika says you're an enemy of the State, the State can kill you.

18 posted on 03/06/2012 5:00:36 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: bmwcyle

He can try.

He will reap what he sows...


19 posted on 03/06/2012 5:07:48 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: South40
The U.S. government is legally justified in killing its own citizens overseas if they are involved in plotting terror attacks against America

(The above-indicated edits await us in a second Obama term.)

20 posted on 03/06/2012 5:13:38 AM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: South40

To him we are a terror group


21 posted on 03/06/2012 5:24:46 AM PST by badpacifist (May the odds be ever in your favor)
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To: South40

“The U.S. government is legally justified in killing its own citizens overseas if they are involved in plotting terror attacks against America “


I am assuming of course Holder is not saying they have to be AMERICAN terrorists but just terrorists in general.

If so then great, let the purging of muslims from the world begin. If there are any real peaceful muslims (doubt it), they have 90 days to repudiate that devil worshiping cult or become part of the target rich environment.


22 posted on 03/06/2012 5:35:46 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: South40

Unless, of course, they belong to the muslim brotherhood—a protected class of blacks who have lived in the states.


23 posted on 03/06/2012 5:38:28 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: P-Marlowe; South40

And he’s also the clown who doesn’t mind offing hundreds of Mexicans.


24 posted on 03/06/2012 5:43:36 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: All
Eric Holder, Bill Clinton, Wright's 'Black Liberation' "church", and the pardons of 16 members of the Puerto Rican Marxist terrorist group FALN:(Wright's Marxist BLT 'church' (Obama's 'church' for 20+ years) advocated for FALN terrorists)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2165024/posts
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"During the 1970s and 1980s, FALN members set off at least 138 bombs in five major U.S. Cities. Six Americans were killed in those attacks. One of those bombings, in January 1975, was at the historic Fraunces Tavern in lower Manhattan while patrons were at lunch. The explosion killed four and injured more than 50."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/bill_hillary_and_the_faln.html
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"Fraunces Tavern is a restaurant and museum in lower Manhattan, New York City. It was built on the site of a former building which played a significant role in pre-Revolutionary activities, and in which, on 4 December 1783, General George Washington bade farewell to his officers at the end of the Revolution, before returning to his home, Mount Vernon."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraunces_Tavern
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"Between 1974 and 1985 the FALN (Puerto Rican Armed Forces of National Liberation) organized 120 terrorist bombings in the United States. Many Americans were killed in those bombings, and many more were crippled. In 1983, another Puerto Rican terrorist group known as the Macheteros, attacked and robbed a Wells Fargo armored car in Connecticut. The Macheteros intended to use the money to finance a terrorist campaign against the United States. Working under the cover of Puerto Rican nationalism and claiming to act on behalf of the 'oppressed people of Puerto Rico,' the FALN and the Macheteros are nothing but Communist revolutionaries. Both groups were organized by Fidel Castro's secret police. The ultimate goal of the FALN and the Macheteros is the creation of an independent Marxist-Leninist dictatorship on the island of Puerto Rico."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=19760
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Eric Holder's role in the pardons of BLA (Black Liberation Army) comrades/Weather Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Evans (1983 Brinks Truck robbery and triple murder):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2165052/posts

25 posted on 03/06/2012 6:27:53 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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"God D*** America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's "Black Liberation"(Communist) pastor for twenty + years

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"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"


26 posted on 03/06/2012 6:30:09 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: South40

Can’t... you... see... it coming.... EMPIRE !!


27 posted on 03/06/2012 6:37:07 AM PST by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: South40

Holder is part of a terror group. He and Obama illegally sent weapons into Mexico that were then used to kill Mexican and American citizens and government agents.

Fast & Furious is an international crime!


28 posted on 03/06/2012 6:50:30 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: CodeToad
>"Fast & Furious is an international crime!"

Arming terrorists in a foreign land is an act of WAR against said foreign nation.

Emma Furs violated the war powers act AGAIN!


Impeach Incarcerate!!!!!

29 posted on 03/06/2012 7:38:16 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (BO Stinks! Like Mitts magic underwear!)
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