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To: Kansas58
Still waiting.

A person who becomes a citizen, based on the laws of this country,in force at the moment of birth, is a Natural Born Citizen.
Which laws? Are positive laws what make them so?

However, YOUR small group of Birthers wants to redefine the term “Natural Born Citizen”.
A most interesting choice of words. What do they want to redefine it from?

Nobody with any authority agrees with you.
You must be parched from trying to draw water from that dry well.

129 posted on 02/22/2012 10:06:05 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Madison clearly stated that Congress had the ability to define Citizenship.
Madison is known as the “Father of the Constitution”.

YES, “positive law” trumps anything you have tried to come up with.

Madison trumps Vattel.
Congressional legislation trumps Vattel.

Even IF a Court, EVER, agreed with you, if legislation has been enacted, since that Court case, that legislation would trump any such Court ruling.

This is how the system works.

What is to keep you from claiming that “Natural Law” should dictate inheritance or divorce or child custody?

Natural Law and Common Law are seen as archaic, harsh, and very out dated in these areas.

It is absurd to think that Vattel can write a book, which some Founders read, and that, therefore, we should use Vattel’s definitions for every legal term in the Constitution.

The Founders also read, and for the most part FOLLOWED, English Common Law, which supports my view, not yours.

130 posted on 02/22/2012 10:14:51 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: philman_36
Madison clearly stated that Congress had the ability to define Citizenship.
Madison is known as the “Father of the Constitution”.

YES, “positive law” trumps anything you have tried to come up with.

Madison trumps Vattel.
Congressional legislation trumps Vattel.

Even IF a Court, EVER, agreed with you, if legislation has been enacted, since that Court case, that legislation would trump any such Court ruling.

This is how the system works.

What is to keep you from claiming that “Natural Law” should dictate inheritance or divorce or child custody?

Natural Law and Common Law are seen as archaic, harsh, and very out dated in these areas.

It is absurd to think that Vattel can write a book, which some Founders read, and that, therefore, we should use Vattel’s definitions for every legal term in the Constitution.

The Founders also read, and for the most part FOLLOWED, English Common Law, which supports my view, not yours.

131 posted on 02/22/2012 10:14:51 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: philman_36
Madison clearly stated that Congress had the ability to define Citizenship.
Madison is known as the “Father of the Constitution”.

YES, “positive law” trumps anything you have tried to come up with.

Madison trumps Vattel.
Congressional legislation trumps Vattel.

Even IF a Court, EVER, agreed with you, if legislation has been enacted, since that Court case, that legislation would trump any such Court ruling.

This is how the system works.

What is to keep you from claiming that “Natural Law” should dictate inheritance or divorce or child custody?

Natural Law and Common Law are seen as archaic, harsh, and very out dated in these areas.

It is absurd to think that Vattel can write a book, which some Founders read, and that, therefore, we should use Vattel’s definitions for every legal term in the Constitution.

The Founders also read, and for the most part FOLLOWED, English Common Law, which supports my view, not yours.

132 posted on 02/22/2012 10:14:51 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: philman_36
Madison clearly stated that Congress had the ability to define Citizenship.
Madison is known as the “Father of the Constitution”.

YES, “positive law” trumps anything you have tried to come up with.

Madison trumps Vattel.
Congressional legislation trumps Vattel.

Even IF a Court, EVER, agreed with you, if legislation has been enacted, since that Court case, that legislation would trump any such Court ruling.

This is how the system works.

What is to keep you from claiming that “Natural Law” should dictate inheritance or divorce or child custody?

Natural Law and Common Law are seen as archaic, harsh, and very out dated in these areas.

It is absurd to think that Vattel can write a book, which some Founders read, and that, therefore, we should use Vattel’s definitions for every legal term in the Constitution.

The Founders also read, and for the most part FOLLOWED, English Common Law, which supports my view, not yours.

133 posted on 02/22/2012 10:14:51 PM PST by Kansas58
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