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To: rawhide

Sorry to not cater to black and white arguments, but are Tasers really appropriate for use by a 220 lb. man against a 90-lb woman - and on a asphalt surface, no less? I mean do we no longer require cops to EVER pursue a suspect on foot? Are too many of them disabled-by-donuts to effect a proper pursuit? This guy has a belly like Santa Claus, but couldn’t he have pursued her for 20 feet? Do they have no training to withdraw use if suspect is on a hard surface, like mall tile, concrete or pavement? Again, sorry to be the only one to disagree that being strung out on pills and coke and running from a fat lazy cop means you deserve a death sentence.


10 posted on 02/21/2012 7:57:37 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
...are Tasers really appropriate for use by a 220 lb. man against a 90-lb woman - and on a asphalt surface, no less?

Correction:
"...are Tasers really appropriate for use by a 220 lb. man against a handcuffed, 90-lb woman - and on a asphalt surface, no less?"

18 posted on 02/21/2012 8:03:30 AM PST by fullchroma
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To: montag813
Sorry to not cater to black and white arguments, but are Tasers really appropriate for use by a 220 lb. man against a 90-lb woman - and on a asphalt surface, no less? I mean do we no longer require cops to EVER pursue a suspect on foot?

To hunt down and capture a suspect, sure - chasing down the perp is sometimes necessry. But, if the suspect is captured, and is being charged - and they decide to make a break; I've no problem with the Taser being given. Why is it we expect police to go to a Track Meet, at a moment's notice? Does the woman bear absolutely no responsibility? Must she be rendered completely restrained, at every opportunity? Are the police expected to be hit, slapped, kicked and injured, based soley upon the 'mood' of the suspected perp? I miss the good old days when a cop would say "Stop, or I'll shoot". Warning shot is 100% optional.

20 posted on 02/21/2012 8:05:52 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: montag813

Of course if he had chased her down and tackled her, we’d be seeing the abuse article about excessive force.


81 posted on 02/21/2012 8:46:42 AM PST by mykroar (Facts are racist.)
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To: montag813
I mean do we no longer require cops to EVER pursue a suspect on foot?

So (Devil's advocate here), say he chases her on foot, catches up, grabs her by the shirt collar and pulls her to the ground (visualize the "horse collar" tackle now penalized in football). The same head injury could result. There was no intent to injure or kill, it just happened. Should we be demanding the cop's head for catching her?

Or, if during the chase she missed a step and crashed headfirst onto a concrete curb, would the cop be wrong for having chased her in the first place?

No, she did not deserve a death sentence, but in this life, s*it happens, and more frequently when one does stupid things.

85 posted on 02/21/2012 8:49:08 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: montag813

My observation is that most police today are over weight ,and too inclined to use deadly force rather than exert themselves;the switch to prefer deadly force over [physically subduing suspects came about with the female officers on patrol who simply haven’t the upper body strength and size to risk physical battles.I note the Iniana State Police seem to insist on keeping in better shape than the county and city departments.One almost never sees a local officer outside his luxurious cruiser except at the doughnut counter of the cnnvenience stores! SERIOUSLY.

Society and its members keep paying heavy prices for artificial promotions and willful disregard of known economic,biological,and scientific facts.


113 posted on 02/21/2012 9:05:27 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: montag813

I have seen stories of cops being called to elementary schools and tazing 9 year olds who were acting up!! (and FReepers on the cops side too)


117 posted on 02/21/2012 9:12:29 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: montag813
withdraw use if suspect is on a hard surface, like mall tile, concrete or pavement?

or even handcuffed ???

and what procedure allows said handcuffed person to even be able to get outside ??? ASSuming that she had to get outta door to make it to the parking lot...

im sure she was really sprinting with the hands immobilized too...

157 posted on 02/21/2012 11:36:13 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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