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U.S., Britain urge Israel not to attack Iran
haaretz.com ^ | 2/19/12 | AP

Posted on 02/19/2012 4:46:31 PM PST by ColdOne

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To: ColdOne

Israel must and will act to survive. I would encourage them to reveal nothing to the Obammy moslem sympathizer doubledealin communist at 1600 Penn.

Israel Strike and Strike Hard, do not let the beast ever again rise. Your actions will be in doing that which is commanded you and from which other nations cower, and will lead the world to a peace at least in our time with the smack down/elimination of the moslem devil.

Many here seek and pray for your complete triumph, and yours alone a satisfying victory. Call on us in this country. Be bold, be courageous, and see now to the survival of your people.


21 posted on 02/19/2012 8:57:38 PM PST by whistleduck
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To: Marguerite

No, most Israelis dont hate Britain, just bigots like you.

And it was the British who liberated Jews from camps like Belsen. And the Jews we barred from Palestine were mainly held in camps in Italy.

What was our thanks for liberating Jews and defeating Nazism?. Three years of terrorism from the Irgun and the Stern gang, who murdered and maimed hundreds of British soldiers and civilians and many of their own Jewish brethern in their bombing campaign from 1944 to 1948. Even kindapping two British soldiers, torturing them to death, and boobytrapping their bodies. The Stern gang even murdered the Swedish count, Folke Bernadotte, who had saved tens of thousands of Jews in Hungary during the war.

Yet, for the disgusting acts of those two groups, do the majority of the British people hate Israel?. No, only the minority who are extremist Muslim, hardleft pro-palestinians or extreme right wing racist bigots like the BNP or Combat 18.


22 posted on 02/20/2012 1:28:08 AM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman
You don't even know what are you talking about.

The Jews arriving after the war from ruined Europe were intercepted by British naval forces. British authorities held Jewish immigrants in detention camps on Cyprus from 1946 to 1949. This policy was part of an effort to deter Jewish immigration to Palestine, under British control, as was Cyprus. During that time over 53,000 Jews passed through the barbed wire camps, held against their will.

British documents about those camps were kept secret as classified documents for 60 whopping years; secrecy agreements prevented British employees from speaking out. After 60 years many of these documents have been declassified. Documentation is now available. Check them out (Google is your friend).

Jewish refugees in a Cyprus detention camp protest the restrictive British policy on immigration, Cyprus, 1946.

The “Exodus 1947,” a ship filled with Jewish Holocaust survivors who wanted to immigrate to Palestine, after it was seized by the British Navy in a deadly struggle at sea in July, 1947.

British detention camps for Jews in Cyprus, 1945-1949 Don't you ever tell me about your truth" again, ignoramus. One of my aunt with her whole family were held prisoners there.

23 posted on 02/20/2012 2:18:47 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite; the scotsman

I saw on the news today that it was the 70th anniversary of the start of the Japanese interment in the U.S. I have no idea of the comparison of conditions between the Jews and the Japanese, but from what I can tell the Japanese don’t hate Americans. (Well, most of them were and are Americans as well....)

But thanks to both of you on your posts. I did a search on the gangs - interesting stuff, fighting the Brits before WWII to get them out of Palestine. And thanks for the old photos - amazing that they were freed, and then stuck behind barbed wire again.


24 posted on 02/20/2012 2:42:26 AM PST by 21twelve
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To: ColdOne

Hey Bibi,
Tell the U.S. and the Britts to pound sand then turn around and pound iran.


25 posted on 02/20/2012 3:43:24 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Marguerite

‘You don’t even know what are you talking about’.

Oh, I do. I am British, the nephew of a British soldier who served in Palestine 1945-47, and I am a history graduate who has studied that period. Elutheria5 and I regularly argue on FR about this period.

You said the Jews were held in concentration camps they had just left. As I pointed out that was not true. You are correct that the Jewish refugees were held in Cyprus and as I said also Italy. Some were held back in Austria and Germany. To suggest the British put them back in the type of murder camp is a very crude accusation and frankly shameful.

Just remember who fought Nazism from the start of ww2. Just remember the 300000 men and women from the UK and Ireland who died so your relatives could live and be free. Just remember the British set up a Jewish Brigade to fight, not the US or France or Canada. Instead of attacking Britain, frankly a little thanks might be nice.

I notice you ignored my substantial reference to the two Jewish/Zionist terrorist gangs. Elutheria5 sees them as heroes. Needless to say, I see them as terrorists and no different to the IRA.

I would actually like to discuss this without you and I calling each other insulting names. Is that possible?.


26 posted on 02/20/2012 6:40:46 AM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman

They didn’t die for Jews. Just another lie.

The San Remo Conference decided on April 24, 1920 to assign the Mandate for Palestine under the League of Nations to Britain: “The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home”.

http://wwi.lib.byu.edu/index.php/San_Remo_Convention

If the freaking Brits kept their promise given in 1920, hundreds of thousands, if not MILLIONS Jews could had escaped the nazi extermination, by leaving Europe for Israel.

But , hey, when did the Brits respect their signature? As soon as they landed there, started coddling with Arabs, carved 3/4 of the Mandate territory to give it to an Arab Hashemite “princelet” as booty - TransJordan, and named him “king”. Not only that but the British adm. had forbidden the Jews to live on the Eastern side of the river Jourdain.

It was thus that the British Empire implemented the nazi dream of “Judenrein” (a land without Jews), before Hitler.

To make the things worse, they reduced the Jewish immigration to a trickle, but never the Arabs’ immigration from Lebanon, Syria, Egypt (among whom a certain Egyptian citizen named ... Arafat). During World War II, many Jews were fleeing Germany and its occupied territories, many attempting to enter the British Mandate of Palestine, despite tight restrictions on Jewish immigration established by the British in 1939. Many of these would-be immigrants were caught and rounded up into detention camps.

More than that, when the Jews revolted against the Arabs’ pogroms and the British complacent attitude towards it, the British military hang dozens of Jewish patriots. From that point in history , the open war between the British and Jews carried on, until May 1948, when Albion left forever.

There is no love left between Israel and Great Britain, and anybody can understand why.

So don’t tell me that Israel has to take into account what the UK tells it to do or not to do. UK was never Israel’s ally or friend. Never. The best they could do was to allow two British Muslims to go to Israel and blow themselves up, making dozens of casualties ...


27 posted on 02/20/2012 7:19:19 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: jiggyboy
Conspiracy mode:
Obama wants Israel to take care of Iran's nuclear problem. This will protect the US and the Sunni nations militarily. The US economy is doing worse than the regime will admitt, Teh Eurozone is crumbling only faster than China's housing bubble. The reverberations will hit us in the summer or fall and doom his re-election chances if nothing is done. However, if he can blame the problems on Iran and Netanyahu, he can try to avoid blame. He is re-elected, the world hates Jews, and the Sunni Islamist revolution goes unabetted as we help the Muslim Brotherhood take Syria and encircle Israel. Next stop Jordan.

But I'm not a conspiracy type.

28 posted on 02/21/2012 12:25:17 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: the scotsman

From 1923, Britain conspired to prevent a Jewish state. It restricted Jewish immigration, with Arabist officers fomenting and aiding Islamic Jihad and nationalist revolts as an excuse to curtail Jewish migration and increase Arab migration.


29 posted on 02/21/2012 12:30:45 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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