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McD: Don’t pack heat in national parks
seattlepi.com ^ | 17 February, 2012 | Joel Connelly

Posted on 02/19/2012 8:06:35 AM PST by marktwain

In a display of defiance at the U.S. Capitol’s governing gun lobby, Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., and eight colleagues have introduced legislation to reinstate a ban on carrying loaded firearms in America’s national parks.

The legislation was prompted by January’s murder of Mt. Rainier National Park ranger Margaret Anderson. Anderson was shot as she set up a road block for a car that didn’t stop at a chain-up checkpoint.

By Joe Sebille“The dreadful and deeply saddening event that occurred on Mt. Rainier makes me question why on earth people should be allowed to carry loaded weapons in our national parks,” said McDermott.

It became illegal to pack heat in national parks in the early 1980′s under the Reagan Administration.

The gun ban was overturned in 2009. Senate Republicans attached a pack-heat provision to legislation designed to control excesses and hidden fees charged by credit card companies.

Rep. Norm Dicks, D-Wash., is cosponsoring the legislation along with House members from California, New York and Virginia.

Advocates for loaded guns have cited such dangers as encounters with grizzly bears in the back country of national parks in the Rockies and Alaska. In response, an association of National Park Service retirees has argued that statistically there is a greater chance that visitors will be struck by lightning than mauled by a bruin.

“Millions of families visit our national park historic sites and monuments every year to see our nationally protected sanctuaries and learn about our nation’s history,” said McDermott. “Why anyone should need or be allowed to carry a loaded firearm in our national parks simply doesn’t occur to me.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; colddeadhands; constitution; democrats; donttreadonme; gun; guncontrol; liberalfascism; liberals; park; shallnotbeinfringed; sicsempertyrannis
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To: marktwain

Seems to me that the answer is to ban the checkpoints.


61 posted on 02/19/2012 10:15:55 AM PST by ConservChristian
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Tired of the disruptions?


62 posted on 02/19/2012 11:11:25 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: jimbobfoster
And exactly how would such a law prevent what happened on Mt. Rainier?

Well, of course everybody knows that when guns are outlawed, people who would murder a
park ranger will all turn their guns in. After all, it's just logical, and besides, it's for the children,
the poor, the elderly, and woman. On top of that, it wouldn't be fair if there were no gun bans.
We must stop George W. Bush, and it's the only way. You're just a racist if you don't support
gun bans. And what gives you the right to ask that question, anyway! Bigot! Right-wing wacko!
Alien from another planet! Icky Republican!

Convincing argument, huh!

Makes you wonder why the GOPe and all the Demwits always fall for it.

63 posted on 02/19/2012 11:49:07 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: marktwain

I’m sure a person who would murder a Park Official would follow that re-instated law. Not. Just as they wouldn’t follow the law that says it’s unlawful to murder another person.


64 posted on 02/19/2012 11:50:32 AM PST by NTegraT (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: marktwain

I’m sure a person who would murder a Park Official would follow that re-instated law. Not. Just as they wouldn’t follow the law that says it’s unlawful to murder another person.


65 posted on 02/19/2012 11:50:44 AM PST by NTegraT (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: marktwain

I’m sure a person who would murder a Park Official would follow that re-instated law. Not. Just as they wouldn’t follow the law that says it’s unlawful to murder another person.


66 posted on 02/19/2012 11:50:54 AM PST by NTegraT (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: marktwain

I’m sure a person who would murder a Park Official would follow that re-instated law. Not. Just as they wouldn’t follow the law that says it’s unlawful to murder another person.


67 posted on 02/19/2012 11:50:54 AM PST by NTegraT (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: marktwain

I’m sure a person who would murder a Park Official would follow that re-instated law. Not. Just as they wouldn’t follow the law that says it’s unlawful to murder another person.


68 posted on 02/19/2012 11:51:00 AM PST by NTegraT (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: marktwain

Is it just me, or did anyone else read the title and think that it was about McDonald’s?

I have four kids 13 and under, so I think in some strange tersm...


69 posted on 02/19/2012 12:01:15 PM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

tersm=terms

Mommyhood kills the ability to spell.


70 posted on 02/19/2012 12:03:40 PM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: Tigerized

Liberals are like termites. They move into homes that appeal to them, then destroy those homes. Then they demand tax payer money to fix the homes. Yuch.


71 posted on 02/19/2012 1:17:50 PM PST by pabianice (")
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To: Caipirabob

“All I heard was “Blah, Blah, Blah...I’m socialist trash!”.
What did the rest of you hear?”

I heard, “I am going to impose my will on you by force because election fraud and useful idiots will allow me to keep getting re-elected, and, unlike the men who signed the Declaration of Independence, you don’t have the stones to put your lives, your fortunes, and your sacred honor on the line.”


72 posted on 02/19/2012 2:04:50 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: hummingbird

I don’t remember, but I’m sure he approved of what this scum did even if he didn’t say so publicly.


73 posted on 02/19/2012 2:25:22 PM PST by MachIV
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To: marktwain
The official Jim McDermott Reelection Campaign slogan:

Republicans hope people are smart.
Democrats know people are stupid.
Vote McDermott (and prove me right)...

74 posted on 02/19/2012 2:31:16 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma
>”did anyone else read the title and think that it was about McDonald’s”<

Well, Jim McDermott has the I.Q. of a McRib Sandwich, so you're not far off.

75 posted on 02/19/2012 2:33:56 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: marktwain

I guess the Constitution has never occurred to this... weasel.


76 posted on 02/19/2012 3:00:31 PM PST by wastedyears (Signature for sale.)
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To: marktwain

By Joe Sebille“The dreadful and deeply saddening event that occurred on Mt. Rainier makes me question why on earth people should be allowed to carry loaded weapons in our national parks,” said McDermott.

To idiot McDermott, how about these reasons:

Grizzly Bears
Black Bears
Eastern “Coyotes”
Wolves
Cougars
Wild Hogs.

If you don’t want to carry a firearm, DON’T but don’t get in MY right to carry one.

And when are you GHOULS going to STOP using individual tragedies to advance your personal political agenda???

I hate idiots like this.


77 posted on 02/19/2012 3:04:12 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: marktwain
The legislation was prompted by January’s murder of Mt. Rainier National Park ranger Margaret Anderson. Anderson was shot as she set up a road block for a car that didn’t stop at a chain-up checkpoint.

Since no law would stop someone like that it is a perfect reason to allow the rest of us to carry a firearm where ever we go. Besides that...

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

...that is the law of the land.

Now why don't you run along and tell al-Assad what our plans are re Syria, McDermott, you commie traitor!

78 posted on 02/19/2012 4:51:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain

What this anti gun crowd doesn’t understand is that criminals like the one who shot the ranger, will take guns into the park and shoot rangers or visitors regardless of their laws about firearms.

On the other hand law abiding citizens are not going to shoot anyone, and with these laws they won’t be able to defend themselves from criminal perps that are carrying, and who do have the intent to do harm to others.

There appears to be some bit of logic that they don’t grasp.


79 posted on 02/19/2012 8:30:48 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: paul51

Good point — remember how there were at least three hiking parties out that day, who might or might not have gotten the message about a nut-job loose? Those hiking groups needed protection from him!

The Parking Lot Circus employees and ex-employees, largely of leftist ilk, do not want anyone “packing heat” but them.


80 posted on 02/19/2012 10:20:33 PM PST by Borax Queen
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