Posted on 02/13/2012 3:23:47 AM PST by veritas2002
Obama vs. Our Obsolete Constitution
Ive gotten some very interesting emails regarding President Obamas mandate commanding Roman Catholics (and many evangelical Protestants) to violate their consciences by providing mandatory contraception, sterilization, and abortion-inducing pharmaceuticals. The emailers noted that Obamas action will force Catholics to challenge the president in court, particularly given that bishops are saying they will not comply with the law. It could mean another constitutional showdown over Obama-care, one that could likewise end up in the Supreme Court. Imagine: The Catholic Bishops v. Obama.
What a fitting capstone to the Obama presidency. And imagine that a majority of professing Roman Catholics elected this man in November 2008.
If this issue goes to the high court, I wouldnt bet my money on Obama, even with the two new pro-choice, pro-Roe liberals he added to the bench: Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor. Even the most progressive Supreme Court justice cannot avoid that old freedom-of-religion thing in the First Amendment.
All of that is remarkable enough. But I find it especially ironic given two other fascinating current news item relating to the Constitution:
Last week, President Obama did an interview with NBCs Matt Lauer. Obama expressed frustration at his inability to be the transformational political figure Americans elected. The change agent lamented that this was the fault of the American Founderswho Obama refers to as men of property and wealthand their Constitution. Obama told Lauer:
Whats frustrated people is that I have not been able to force Congress to implement every aspect of what I said in 2008. Well, it turns out our Founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change that I would like sometimes. But what I have been able to do is move in the right direction. And what Im going to keep on doing is plot away, very persistent.
Obama is quite correct. His primary obstacle is the Founders system of separation of powers and checks and balances. His problem is a Congress and Supreme Court that is empowered to say, No, Mr. President, that isnt constitutional. You cant do that in America.
Well, Obamas mandate to the Catholic Church could be the next such challenge, again impeding his self-perceived rise to transcendent political greatness. A Democrat-controlled Congress approved Obama-care, but the Supreme Court now must scrutinize its provisions. Thats the courts duty.
That brings me to the second news item: Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg gave an interview to Egyptian television. Ginsburg will likely be the next justice to step down. Once Obama replaces her with a much younger pro-Roe judge, this nation will have Roe v. Wade for another 39 years. In the interview, Ginsburg advised Middle East democrats on drafting a constitution. She did not, however, recommend the U.S. Constitution. Ginsburg stated:
I cant speak about what the Egyptian experience should be, because Im operating under a rather old constitution. The United States, in comparison to Egypt, is a very new nation; and yet we have the oldest written constitution still in force in the world . I would not look to the U.S. Constitution if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012. I might look at the constitution of South Africa. That was a deliberate attempt to have a fundamental instrument of government that embraced basic human rights, and had an independent judiciary It really is, I think, a great piece of work that was done. Much more recently than the U.S. Constitution, Canada has a Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It dates from 1982. You would almost certainly look at the European Convention on Human Rights. Yes, why not take advantage of what there is elsewhere in the world?
Actually, why not take advantage of whats in the U.S. Constitution? The paradox in Ginsburgs statement is her dismissal of the U.S. Constitution because its rather old; in fact, the oldest written constitution still in force in the world.
Well, why is it so old and still in force? Because it was done right. It is based on timeless values and virtues and universal rights that work; that are true. It has been amended less than 30 times in 220-some years. It is the most stable, successful, remarkable constitution in history, bringing together a vast array of peoples and assimilating them into historys most prosperous, awe-inspiring nationa nation that spent the 20th century winning freedom for other nations, so those nations could produce democracies and constitutions.
The U.S. Constitution is the perfect model, at once both beautifully broad and specific. And among the things it got right are separation of powers and checks in balances. Ruth Bader Ginsburg and President Obama may be learning that again very sooncompliments of Obama-care and its constitutional assault on the consciences of religious believers.
The US constitution is indeed the most perfect consitution that imperfect men could ever create.
Let me be the first to second your motion!
IMO, the press will stop covering it and it will fade away, unless the churches keep mentioning it from the pulpit.
Santorum would find him not guilty.
Had enough yet?
Vote Republican!
SHARIA!!????
This obvious stupid statement/requirement by Obama regarding “religous” doctrines / beliefs via his Healthcare Mandate -
Could the upcoming court battles / amendments / etc. CREATE a “princple of LAW” that the Islamists could use in the future to get their Sharia beliefs into the US system of LAW??
I think Obama and his saudi advisors are and will be “playing” us at every opportunity for the next 10 months to get his goals completed..
> I was speaking of Mussolini making the trains run on time
Do you know HOW he made the trains run on time?
When Mussolini came to power, Italy’s train system was the laughing stock of the world. Never on time. Some trains never even showed up.
Mussolini ordered that the entire crew of every late train was to be marched to the siding and shot in front of the passengers. This only had to be done a few times to get the trains to run on time.
> The Catholic Bishops v. Obama
The Catholic Bishops cannot be taken seriously until they publicly excommunicate every politician that openly supports abortion, birth control, and homosexuality in defiance of his or her bishop’s correction to the contrary.
And the Pope cannot be taken seriously until he starts replacing American bishops who refuse to discharge their responsibilities in this matter with bishops who will.
interesting link here,
http://www.punditandpundette.com/2012/02/squid-ink-hhs-mandate-is-already-law.html
My reply was sarcastic —
We supposedly live in free society but need to worry that net police are reading our replies.
I am aware of Mussolini making the trains run on time by executing crews that did not.
The point I was making crudely is that I am surprised that dumbo is not executing naysayers.
If I do not reply it probably because I got executed by one of dumbo’s minions
Obama NEEDS a consitutional crisis.
Everything is being staged for a collapse of our system and the re-writing of our constitution.
Most people do not realize this yet.
Obama NEEDS a consitutional crisis.
Everything is being staged for a collapse of our system and the re-writing of our constitution.
Most people do not realize this yet as they are focused on the collapse of the economy more than anything.
Since any lawsuit will not happen during this year, the point is null and void. Obama delayed the law for a year to avoid lawsuits during the election. The news media already agrees that the compromise was brilliant and does not offend anyone of faith. Sadly this likely will not be an issue during the election since most Catholics and our GOP leaders are big pacifists too scared to fight. I doubt you will see this issue in the news in a week.
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