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Newt's Southern Strategy Won't Work (Tokyo Rove alert)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 2/9/12 | Karl Rove

Posted on 02/09/2012 4:12:08 AM PST by jimbo123

Newt Gingrich's remarks Saturday night after the Nevada caucuses and on NBC's "Meet the Press" the next morning proved that presidential candidates should talk policy, not process.

Proclaiming "We want to get to Georgia, to Alabama, to Tennessee," Mr. Gingrich said primaries in the South would produce "a series of victories" that by the April 4 Texas primary would make him "very, very competitive in the delegate count."

Well, the Gingrich Southern strategy faces big obstacles, starting with Rick Santorum and Ron Paul. Demanding that these two candidates drop out so he becomes the only conservative alternative to Mitt Romney hasn't worked.

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1 posted on 02/09/2012 4:12:18 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

“Demanding that these two candidates drop out so he becomes the only conservative alternative to Mitt Romney hasn’t worked.”

Demanding? Gee, karl. Embellish much?


2 posted on 02/09/2012 4:16:23 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: jimbo123

That’s a great cartoon of Rove.


3 posted on 02/09/2012 4:17:15 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: jimbo123

***presidential candidates should talk policy, not process.***

Newt is the only candidate who has policies, principles and solutions to our current crises.

No-one can compete with Newt’s vision and experience - which is why the media and RINOs are promoting these primaries as a ‘horse-race’ - all process and propaganda.

Newt is Secretariat and Man-o-War.


4 posted on 02/09/2012 4:21:28 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: jimbo123

Rove is a twisted backstabber.

His love for poser Romney is destroying the GOP
and America’s last chance.


5 posted on 02/09/2012 4:22:01 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: jimbo123
rove... you are just as bad as obama and I my disdain for you is as strong as it is for the kenyan... you are both corrupt and anti American.

LLS

6 posted on 02/09/2012 4:25:56 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: jimbo123

I’m sick of Rove, but Newt probably is done in by Santorum in the North.


7 posted on 02/09/2012 4:27:18 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: jimbo123
KMA Rove. What gives YOU the right to dictate who the GOP candidate will be? Get your chubby @ss out of Washington and out of politics - you've done enough damage.
8 posted on 02/09/2012 4:27:28 AM PST by liberalh8ter (Obama - The United Nation's first U.S. Presidential Candidate)
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To: jimbo123

Rove. Sheesh. One of the WORST. In the tank for Romney. Open borders, Rockefellian freak. Never took responsibility for advocating an open border situation for eight years which essentially resulted in the deaths of many more Americans on American soil at the murdering (or drunk driving) hands of ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS, than those Mexicans (as bad as it was) snuffed out under the Obama’s brilliant “Fast and Furious” open border/violence condoned the other way program. The nerve of KR to show his fat face and spout off at all these days. This is NOT the future of my Republican Party.


9 posted on 02/09/2012 4:28:21 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Santorum is worth a good second look, my friends. Why is it the media and White House hate him so?)
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To: jimbo123
Watching Rove sputter and sput about his lover butt Mitt striking out to Santorum is delicious.

I voted for Santorum here but Newt won South Carolina so unless his campaign collapses before Super Tuesday he will win the South hands down.

I see Santorum and Newt as the two final front runners with Romney only having enough delegates to keep anyone from getting the magic 1144.

It's sure gonna be a hot time in Tampa brudder!

10 posted on 02/09/2012 4:32:05 AM PST by Happy Rain ("If you're shiftless and in doubt-find a liberal whine and pout-pretty soon you're making out.")
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To: jimbo123
Mr. Romney will, in all likelihood, grab the 33 delegates awarded winner-take-all at the congressional district level and most of the delegates allocated proportionally by Virginia's statewide results.

I predict Ron Paul will win VA as the only non-Romney cancidate. Gingrich and Santorum supporters know Paul can't win the nomintation, so it's a safe anti-Romney vote.

11 posted on 02/09/2012 4:39:56 AM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: jimbo123
Has FOX News 'Jumped The Shark' Over Mitt???

FOX News may have 'jumped the shark' over mittens

Fair and balanced is Juan McCain

I for one have had enough of the ‘wisdom’ of Bill Kristal, Chas. Krauthammer, Ted Baxter, Bret Beahr, Toyko Rove, Ann Colter, Chris Wallace, Sean Wannabe, Dana Parino, Brit Hume, Shep Smith, Judge Jeanene, Alam Comes, Bob Beckle, Juan Williams, Whoraldo, et. al. all acting the part of the Romney cheerleading squad

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12 posted on 02/09/2012 4:40:00 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Happy Rain

I’m not sure Newt can win outside the south but he does pull votes from Romney in the south. Santorum on the other hand has shown that he can win outside his comfort zone.

In any case, both need to stay in for now and I’m actually wishing Ron Paul some luck in Virginia.


13 posted on 02/09/2012 4:45:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MestaMachine
Another falsehood Rove and WSJ like to spread is that Romney qualified for the Virginia primary.

Actually, no one knows if he did. He claimed he had over 15,000 signatures on nominating petitions BUT the party didn't verify the truth of that claim.

He got a special break from the Fascist Pigs who run the Republican party machinery in Virginia.

Now I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, but that jerk is the ONLY person on the ballot besides Romney, who got there only by cheating.

I will show up with several hundred people to vote FOR PAUL because that's how you vote AGAINST ROMNEY.

14 posted on 02/09/2012 4:49:23 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek
Rick wins the North and Newt wins the South—The GOP convention could be a kind of Gettysburg deciding the fate of the union.
15 posted on 02/09/2012 4:56:34 AM PST by Happy Rain ("If you're shiftless and in doubt-find a liberal whine and pout-pretty soon you're making out.")
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To: jimbo123
In a slightly edited blast from FR's past...

ROVE! You magnificent bastard!

Amazing how the fair haired boy who could do no wrong while running the machinery in the GWB years could evolve into such a turncoat.

Then again, some historians have long pondered if Benedict Arnold always had the treason gene in his bloodstream.
16 posted on 02/09/2012 5:01:10 AM PST by mkjessup (Let's do to Mitt what his Irish Setter did to him while tied to the roof rack of his station wagon!)
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To: sodpoodle

You would think that would matter to supposedly conservative voters.

Nope. Its all whomever makes me feel good at this moment.

It is simply a pathetic sight to behold.


17 posted on 02/09/2012 5:08:57 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Hugin

Anybody that gives it that much thought would just write in their candidate. Most would just not vote.


18 posted on 02/09/2012 5:35:23 AM PST by conejo99
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To: sodpoodle

Do not slander two of the greatest race horses this country has ever produced. And do not use principles and noots name in the same sentence.


19 posted on 02/09/2012 5:37:39 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: cripplecreek
“I’m actually wishing Ron Paul some luck in Virginia”
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Many of us in here VA will be voting for Paul in the PRIMARY (NOT the General Election!!!) for the express purpose of denying Romney any delegates. For those who somehow have missed it the GOP-E here in VA, spear-headed by Gov McDonnell, has gerrymandered the GOP Primary so that( ONLY ROMNEY'S and PAUL’s NAMES APPEAR ON THE PRIMARY BALLOT ...and “NO WRITE-INS” ARE ALLOWED!!! In essence, we are disenfranchised.)

There was a thread addressing this on FR yesterday attempting to explain our strategy to Conservatives who didn't understand that to stay home and not vote on primary day = a de facto Romney “landslide.” Before that thread could get past the first 50 posts the admin moderator “pulled it.” The reason given: “No Ron Paul.”

Please understand; I have no use at all for Ron Paul; but, in this specific case in VA; “No Ron Paul” = “All Votes for Romney” and a “landslide” victory that will give all the delegates in VA to Mitt.

I have no wish to contradict whatever guidelines/policies Jim wants to enforce via his moderators; this is his site and I fully respect and support that. I would; however, urge the admin moderator(s) to look intelligently at what we are proposing; and, if necessary, discuss this w/Jim.

This is a VERY unique and unusual situation in VA and it needs to be looked at strategically; not dismissed with a perfunctory “one rule fits all; No Ron Paul” approach that is, frankly, as LTG Honore’ loved to opine; “Stuck on stupid.”

If anyone has a better strategy to combat the VA GOP’s “Romney Only” Pseudo-Primary debacle; please share whatever ideas you may have w/all of us highly frustrated VA Conservatives!!!

V/r,

-Geoff

20 posted on 02/09/2012 5:37:51 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: jimbo123

Well if Rove is against him I’m for him.


21 posted on 02/09/2012 5:39:47 AM PST by McGruff (Go Newt!)
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To: org.whodat

Don’t order me around!

You have a strange grasp of free speech and the principles of FReeRepublic.


22 posted on 02/09/2012 5:41:24 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

You make a good case. Never thought I’d say vote for Ron Paul but in Virginia I say go for it. Anything to stop Romney.


23 posted on 02/09/2012 5:44:25 AM PST by McGruff (Think Brokered Convention)
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To: conejo99
There's no "write in" voting allowed in the Virginia primary.

That's how much the party professionals fear the people around here.

24 posted on 02/09/2012 5:44:40 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
Jim should look into that "pulling" since the ONLY candidate who would actually benefit in Virginia would be Romney, and I haven't seen anyone tell us that it's OK to do and say things that support Romney's candidacy.

Hmm.

Very suspicious!

25 posted on 02/09/2012 5:47:10 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: jimbo123
Hey, Mr. Rove! As they say in Tokyo, urusai, kono Bakayarō!
26 posted on 02/09/2012 5:59:19 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Diogenesis
Rove is a twisted backstabber. His love for poser Romney is destroying the GOP and America’s last chance.

Correct.

Rove was on hannity last night talking about Santorum's 3 victories on Tuesday and Rove referred to Santorum as that "lawyer", knowing how the world feels about lawyers.

Fat karl is eating his way to the Chris Christie fat slob of the year award.

Karl and Christie are equally conservative.

27 posted on 02/09/2012 6:03:38 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: Hugin
I predict Ron Paul will win VA as the only non-Romney cancidate. Gingrich and Santorum supporters know Paul can't win the nomintation, so it's a safe anti-Romney vote.

Wow, I never thought of that, what a great idea.

You talk about sending a message, the conservative voters of VA could hand mittens his ass and strike fear into the hearts of the rinos inside the beltway.

I'm gonna promote this idea as best I can and would hope that any FReepers that live in VA, would jump on this wonderful idea.

VOTERS OF VIRGINIA, VOTE RON PAUL. {I'm going to go and shower, now}.

28 posted on 02/09/2012 6:09:53 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: jimbo123

Gingrich’s southern strategy “might” have worked... BUT after Tuesday Santorum wont be dropping out anytime soon which is a major problem.

Either Gingrich or Santorum has to drop out before Super Tuesday, or times up. And I don’t see any chance of that happening now.

*sigh*


29 posted on 02/09/2012 6:32:06 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: sodpoodle
Oder you around, you compared two of the greatest race horse that ever lived and had no equals, to a little old fat man that keeps getting slapped around by willard
30 posted on 02/09/2012 6:35:28 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: sodpoodle
Oder you around, you compared two of the greatest race horse that ever lived and had no equals, to a little old fat man that keeps getting slapped around by willard
31 posted on 02/09/2012 6:36:03 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: cripplecreek
Santorum hasn't won or finished better than 3rd in REAL ELECTIONS with a full slate of candidates, he's only won in caucus States and “beauty contests”.
32 posted on 02/09/2012 7:06:31 AM PST by WellyP (REAL)
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To: WellyP

You’re kind of a moron aren’t you?

So tell me why does Santorum have more delegates than Gingrich? Here’s a clue, Santorum has actually won more than one state.

You clowns sound more and more like democrats every day.


33 posted on 02/09/2012 7:10:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: All

“Ata testified he wanted a job with the state of Illinois — not for the $127,000/year salary — but as a way to redeem himself in Chicago’s Arab community after he had been forced into taking an early retirement from his prestigious chemical enginnering job after Sept. 11.

Duffy also challenged Ata’s testimony regarding what Rezko told him about Karl Rove and an Illinois GOP operative, Robert Kjellander, plotting to replace Chicago U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald. Duffy asked Ata, “you believe Tony Rezko could actually influence President Bush?” Ata, replied, “No.” Duffy followed by saying, “Well, the president chooses the U.S. attorney, right?” Ata replied, “Yes.”

“So you’re suggesting that Mr. Rezko had the influence and power to influence the president?” Ata replied, “Tony Rezko informed me that Bob Kjellander was working with Karl Rove to change the U.S. attorney in Chicago.” Karl Rove’s attorney denies this claim.”

________________

“Former White House aide Karl Rove is being linked to a conspiracy surrounding Tony Rezko’s corruption trial.

The connection was made early this morning, when prosecutors told a U.S. district judge they want to call to the stand a former Illinois state official named Ali Ata.

Prosecutors say Ata — who pleaded guilty to corruption charges on Tuesday — can testify to conversations he had with Rezko about efforts to stop the criminal investigation.

Prosecutors say the plan was for Republican National Committee member Robert Kjellander to work with Rove to have U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald fired. Getting rid of Fitzgerald would allow them to find someone else so that “individuals who have been cooperating in the investigation will be dealt with differently.”

Rove attorney Robert Luskin says Rove “does not recall” Kjellander ever speaking to Rove about removing Fitzgerald, and Rove never has spoken to anyone at the White House or Justice Department about removing Fitzgerald.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335592,00.html


34 posted on 02/09/2012 7:14:12 AM PST by Irenic
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To: jimbo123

Duck You ....Yuh pudgy, over bloated, Sow.

You ain’t got Shiite over Shinola


35 posted on 02/09/2012 7:27:50 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: cripplecreek
Sorry to burden you with facts. Santorum has only won caucus States and Beauty contests. In total vote count he is 3rd. Paul's and Santorun’s total vote count don't even come up to Newt's, much less Mitt's. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_vote_count.html
36 posted on 02/09/2012 7:31:30 AM PST by WellyP (REAL)
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To: WellyP

LOL OK whatever.

You be sure to let me know when the easter bunny delivers your messiah.


37 posted on 02/09/2012 7:35:35 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Elle Bee

If Dana weren’t cuter than a box of kittens I’d nevuh watch her.


38 posted on 02/09/2012 7:38:36 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Elle Bee

If Dana weren’t cuter than a box of kittens I’d nevuh watch her.


39 posted on 02/09/2012 7:38:56 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: muawiyah
Thx!

I have an idea it is probably not “suspicious” ...likely more a matter of the admin moderator scanning the thread and not realizing we were not a bunch of “PaulBots.” It's understandable that; because the “mods” have to review a lot of posts, sometimes mistakes happen due to the pressures of the job. Never-the-less, it's REALLY FRUSTRATING trying to inform and organize Conservatives only to fall victim to “friendly fire.”

It wasn't my thread; so, I don't know whether the originator ever complained or not; however, after the thread was “pulled” it never reappeared to the best of my knowledge.

‘Take care,

-Geoff

40 posted on 02/09/2012 8:45:10 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: conejo99
Anybody that gives it that much thought would just write in their candidate.

That would split the anti-Romney vote (if they even count write ins?), and Romney wins. The only way to beat Romney in VA is to vote for Paul. GO RON PAUL (in VA only)!

41 posted on 02/09/2012 11:23:30 AM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: USS Alaska
Watching Cspan today I noticed they've got McDonnell, Virginia's governor as one of their speakers tomorrow for this allegedly Conservative group.

McDonnell is one of the guys whose ass will be handed to him ~ and he's never been considered a RINO.

What we will be doing is giving a message to regular conservatives that if you stray off our reservation we will send out the cavalry to cut short your political career, so don't suck RINO butts!

42 posted on 02/09/2012 12:25:03 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: USS Alaska
Watching Cspan today I noticed they've got McDonnell, Virginia's governor as one of their speakers tomorrow for this allegedly Conservative group.

McDonnell is one of the guys whose ass will be handed to him ~ and he's never been considered a RINO.

What we will be doing is giving a message to regular conservatives that if you stray off our reservation we will send out the cavalry to cut short your political career, so don't suck RINO butts!

43 posted on 02/09/2012 12:25:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Hugin

You want me to vote for Ron Paul? Sorry man, you’re asking for too much.


44 posted on 02/09/2012 12:26:22 PM PST by conejo99
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To: Hugin; conejo99
There's no write in allowed on a Virginia Primary Ballot.

We also don't have party reservation, all primaries are open, it's a great big mess.

45 posted on 02/09/2012 12:31:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: conejo99
You want me to vote for Ron Paul? Sorry man, you’re asking for too much.

Mitt and his RINO buddies apprecieate your principled stand.

46 posted on 02/09/2012 12:53:50 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: conejo99
Actually, we have TWO RINO canidates on the ballot. Ron Paul is probably going to run as the Libertarian Party candidate ~ he's one of their guiding lights anyway. Mitt Romney has been a big time contributor to Democrat candidates.

Neither one of them is a Conservative ~so the objective in the voting should be to vote for the guy who is least threatening to our Conservative candidates running in other states.

Fur Shur we wouldn't want anyone here voting for Romney ~ I cringe at the thought ~ but we know Paul isn't going to pull it out of the air at the convention.

47 posted on 02/09/2012 12:54:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Hugin

I’m not sure the world would be a better place if Ron Paul won Virginia. Image what his win would seem to say about the republican party. Not what you mean it to say, but what others would interpret it to say.
That being said, I don’t live in Virginia anyway and won’t be voting for either Paul or Romney when the Texas primary finally arrives (whenever that finally comes).


48 posted on 02/09/2012 1:10:14 PM PST by conejo99
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To: muawiyah

Heh, that might be fun playing a Paulinista for the Virginia vote. Sort of like going to Mardi Gras and getting to act completely crazy for a day.


49 posted on 02/09/2012 2:24:43 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

Absolutely, there has to be a temporary alliance with Ron Paul in VA. Just like working with the Soviets to defeat the Nazis. The average Virginian needs to feel the shock and awe of armies of Ron Paulinistas marching through the streets on election day to deny Mitt the win. Nothing could hurt Mitt’s momentum more, NOTHING, than losing to Ron Paul in Virginia.


50 posted on 02/09/2012 2:27:53 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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