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Illegal Immigrants Pay Income Tax, Won't Get Deported Says Initiative
KION ^ | Feb 08, 2012 | Brooke Holmquist

Posted on 02/08/2012 6:34:11 PM PST by artichokegrower

SACRAMENTO, Calif- A new tax proposal could be the answer to our state's budget mess. The proposal? Tax illegal immigrants.

The people behind the initiative said they can get illegal immigrants to pay income taxes, but first the Governor must get a promise from the federal government, it won't go after anyone here illegally and is part of the program.

"Trying to get the federal government to not spend resources on those folks who are filing and paying I don't know why that would come about, I would suspect some sort of political motivation in Sacramento visa vie Washington."

Attorney Blanca Zarazua deals with tax law and is an honorary consul for Mexico. She said the proposed five year program that uses a no-deportation incentive to push undocumented workers to pay state income taxes may not be necessary

"Once they find out there is that requirment, historically there has been enough years where people have filed returns and there is no referral to immigration. So I think the word is out that it's a good thing to do and it won't result in an immigration referral."

According to some recent independent studies there's proof that illegal immigrants are filing taxes.

Infact a 2010 study by the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy found California got $2.7 billion dollars from illegal immigrants including sales, property and income tax.

Zarazua said locally if undocumented workers have the means, they will file and it seems this is another option to get the state some much needed cash.

"...Just visually if you go to certain parts of the county you will see people trying to comply...To the extent that you dont have 100% participation by undocumented folks or U.S. citizens maybe to close that gap so you get closer to 100%."

The initiative must collect just over 500,000 signatures by July to make it to the ballot.


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Pay your income taxes and all of your criminal actions will be absolved.
1 posted on 02/08/2012 6:34:16 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

They’re not here to pay income taxes (many are probably below the threshold anyway); they are here to pay into Social Security for the children Americans won’t have.


2 posted on 02/08/2012 6:41:05 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: artichokegrower

Look at it from the flip side (politician’s side); were nothing more than a manageable way to fund government and it’s spending. I’m actually wary of border defenses now; they (politicians) might try to keep us in.


3 posted on 02/08/2012 6:43:04 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: artichokegrower

The vast majority of illegals who do file, do so for Earned Income and child tax credits. They pay no income taxes.


4 posted on 02/08/2012 6:46:37 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: artichokegrower
...Sacramento visa vie Washington."

visa vie?
5 posted on 02/08/2012 6:48:06 PM PST by posterchild (I'm old enough to remember when journalists bothered to look things up on wikipedia.)
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To: Michael Barnes

Attorney Blanca Zarazua deals with tax law and is an honorary consul for Mexico

Maybe someone who is an honorary consul for Mexico should not be formulating law here in the USA


6 posted on 02/08/2012 6:48:06 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower; All
"Pay your income taxes and all of your criminal actions will be absolved."

It's actually far, far worse than that.

Most such filers will be claiming the Earned Income Tax Credit and we'll be paying THEM!

Not only that, how will they get an SSN without legal status? They can't.

Amnesty and Welfare.

These commies must be stopped.

7 posted on 02/08/2012 6:49:00 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“...found California got $2.7 billion dollars from illegal immigrants including sales, property and income tax.”

Even if that were true, it means 20% of the CA population paid 2% of all CA taxes and NOTHING in Federal taxes. Not to mention the $10B CA spends educating the children of these illegals and the $5B hospitals absorb in unpaid bills.


8 posted on 02/08/2012 6:57:32 PM PST by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: Mariner

You’re right about “us paying them”, but there is no tax form to retrieve unemployment and social security withheld. They are here to boost spending (as consumers - especially in housing) and to save social security as ready-made contributors without that annoying thing called “childhood”.

I agree that it is a losing proposition; they devour more than they contribute. It is like the ants inviting in a horde of grasshoppers just as winter approaches...


9 posted on 02/08/2012 7:03:20 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: artichokegrower

BS, if they pay taxes with a real ssi number, then they will be billed for debts like everyone else, not going to happen, most of their freebies would become tractable and no more refunds for fake returns..


10 posted on 02/08/2012 7:06:01 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: artichokegrower

More sales tax, actually, a national sales tax would be nice....


11 posted on 02/08/2012 7:12:22 PM PST by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: artichokegrower

Oh, and you can vote too... democrat that is...


12 posted on 02/08/2012 7:46:34 PM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: artichokegrower
Paying income taxes can mean merely filing taxes and in many cases qualifying for hundreds of dollars in earned income "refunds" regardless of the fact that not a penny of income tax has ever been paid.

BTW, I wonder if citizens convicted of document fraud can pay taxes and get out of prison?

13 posted on 02/08/2012 8:34:33 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: posterchild

visa vie?

It’s a typo.....it is suppose to read “visa via”, meaning the road to a visa and a free ride....or the writer just forgot how to spell vis-a-vis. Little knowledge....meet dangerous thing.


14 posted on 02/08/2012 9:17:01 PM PST by Donkey Odious (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: artichokegrower

Maybe forcing them to pay taxes is one way to make them get the heck out of Dodge and go home. Unfortunately, most of them will probably qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit and we’ll be paying them. This probably isn’t such a good idea.


15 posted on 02/08/2012 9:25:57 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: artichokegrower

Except the gain to California in terms of taxes will be marginal while the benefit drain will continue to be substantial. Poor people don’t pay income taxes, the state pays them. In addition, people who have a history of criminality, such as entering the country illegally and identity fraud, will not suddenly report cash income which is typical of the illegal demographic California is always pandering too.


16 posted on 02/08/2012 9:45:01 PM PST by jimnm
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To: artichokegrower

How the hell does an illegal alien File Taxes? Are they using your Social Security Number?


17 posted on 02/09/2012 3:49:25 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: artichokegrower
Great idea....how about a sliding scale for the new lawbreaking tax? Want to murder your wife and collect life insurance? No problem, pay a $10,000 one time tax, all is forgiven! Want to rob a bank? No problem - give half of what you get in the robbery back to the State as a tax and you're good to go. After all, taxpayers will pay the bank back anyway so it's all good!
18 posted on 02/09/2012 3:59:35 AM PST by liberalh8ter (Obama - The United Nation's first U.S. Presidential Candidate)
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To: liberalh8ter
Pay a big enough bribe, and all your crimes will be forgiven.

Pay the right party (obama reelection campaign), and a smaller bribe will be required.

19 posted on 02/13/2012 1:42:12 AM PST by tdscpa
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