Posted on 01/27/2012 8:36:59 AM PST by IbJensen
Thanks for the post. It’s getting hard to keep up.
Did he just witness her rob a bank or steal granny’s purse or something?
I remember that story ,, what ever came of it ... wasn’t the union on the cops side?
Thanks for the link. Very interesting perspective on why 9-11
was used as an excuse to install ever encroaching surveillance and abrogations of freedom in place of securing our borders and halting the flood of entrants, illegal and legal, from countries that hate us.
The growth of our expectations of domestic security, and the evolution of threats away from traditional state actors toward non-state entities -- drug cartels, organized crime, and terrorism are prominent examples -- suggest that the DHS intelligence mission should be threat agnostic. (Everyone is suspect.)
In an age of budget constraints, pressure on DHS to focus on core areas of responsibility and capability -- and to avoid emphasis on areas performed by other entities -- may allow for greater focus on these areas of core competency while the agency sheds intelligence functions less central to the DHS mission. Analysts and managers in Washingtons sprawling intelligence architecture often speak of the value of competitive analysis -- analysts at different agencies, for example, looking at similar problems to ensure that we miss no new perspective, no potentially valuable data source
Well, we certainly would not want that, lets go with a single source of information that is not questioned.
There remains room for this type of analysis, (Well that's mighty big of `em) but there are enough agencies pursuing the terrorist adversary to allow DHS to build a new analytic foundation that emphasizes data, analytic questions, and customer groups that are not the focus for other agencies. Analysis that helps private-sector partners better understand how to mitigate threats to infrastructure, for example, should win more resourcing (MONEY) than a focus on all-source analysis of general threats, such as work on assessing the perpetrators of attacks. Conversely, all-source analysis of terrorist groups and general terrorist trends should remain the domain of other intelligence agencies.
So, the blanket label of "terrorism" is used to justify this power grab. Above, terrorism is referenced as "non-state" i.e. international, to prove there is a gap in intelligence gathering. Below, there is a reversal of this in the "understand overseas terrorist incidents and translate them into analysis for the US."
This new approach to intelligence -- serving local partners requirements, providing intelligence in areas (such as infrastructure) not previously served by intelligence agencies, and disseminating information by new means -- reflects a transition in how Americans perceive national security. For this reason, state/local agencies, as clients for DHS intelligence, should also be involved in the development of requirements for what kinds of intelligence on emerging threats would be most helpful, from changing tactics for smuggling aliens into the United States to how to understand overseas terrorist incidents and translate them into analysis for the US.
Throughout the document there is the pervasive intrusion into state and local law enforcement agencies. there are no less that twelve direct references to this.
Local private sector
Local partner
local agency
local police agency
localized
There are eight references to "private" with six as "private sector" and one each to "private partnership" and "private."
And here is the money quote... DHS customers will require information with limited classification; in contrast to most other federal intelligence entities, DHS should focus on products that start at lower classification levels, especially unclassified and FOUO, (For Official Use Only).
And that means ALL unclassified data. Credit cards, phone records, DOT info, school records, medical, commercial business data, E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G that would normally require your permission or a warrant.
Nice huh?
Anyone have the background on this Aspen Institute?
http://www.aspeninstitute.org/sites/default/files/content/docs/pubs/HS-HPSCI-hearing-011812.pdf
. /u
Here’s a start:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.com/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1411
Will be back in a bit.
And more:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.com/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=7681
Guess whose fingerprints ...
My take on the “tin foil hat” brigade is not that they are completely wrong about conspiracies existing, but that they are not discerning at all when it comes to which conspiracies they will believe in. They have gotten into a mindset where they will accept a conspiracy theory, no matter how ludicrous on its face, with the flimsiest of circumstantial evidence.
We live in a world were conspiracies indisputably exist and influence history. Communism was a vast conspiracy, documented extensively, and it shook the whole world. Every country of any significance has operated intelligence agencies for decades that operate in total secrecy, colluding to influence affairs foreign and domestic. Those are, by definition, conspiracies as well. These agencies also routinely concoct false conspiracy theories to spread misinformation and throw people off the trail of their actual activities, and unfortunately, folks like Jones usually fall for the misinformation hook, line, and sinker.
SANDY BERGER! I don't think he is supposed to be part of anything requiring a clearance and this sure looks like an effort where a clearance would be required... But... He is a Democrat so I guess he is just taking one of his guaranteed “do-overs”!
[ My take on the tin foil hat brigade is not that they are completely wrong about conspiracies existing, but that they are not discerning at all when it comes to which conspiracies they will believe in. They have gotten into a mindset where they will accept a conspiracy theory, no matter how ludicrous on its face, with the flimsiest of circumstantial evidence.
We live in a world were conspiracies indisputably exist and influence history. Communism was a vast conspiracy, documented extensively, and it shook the whole world. Every country of any significance has operated intelligence agencies for decades that operate in total secrecy, colluding to influence affairs foreign and domestic. Those are, by definition, conspiracies as well. These agencies also routinely concoct false conspiracy theories to spread misinformation and throw people off the trail of their actual activities, and unfortunately, folks like Jones usually fall for the misinformation hook, line, and sinker. ]
NAILED IT!!!
So they are just going to re-establish the Constitution then, and we are to stupid to know it>
Long past time for action! This is a central socialist government clearly out of control and not one of these tepid candidates for president are saying a damned thing!
I am more surprised they did not at least try to disguise it.
Yet 99.9% of the American population does not have a clue about any of this and will munch their hay wondering why TSA and DHS are in every 7-11 and Wal-Mart in town.
Thanks for the links.
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You are focusing on an Administration when this is an ongoing plan that has taken place for at least ten years, maybe longer, under Both parties. Don’t get your hopes up no matter Who is elected. They may knock down a few programs that actually help people, but they’ll strengthen all the ones that put people in jail for no reason.
We can only hope enough police and military follow the ten principles of the Oath Keepers for defending the Constitution:
OATH KEEPERS: ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY
1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people
3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as unlawful enemy combatants or to subject them to military tribunal.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a state of emergency on a state.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to keep the peace or to maintain control.”
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
Few expected it, but why didn't THIS administration do something about it? The answer is easy. It fits with their plan to sodomize the nation, destroy the economy and get elected for four more years to finish the murder.
We all knew when the Patriot Act was first implemented that it held this very danger within it. There was a sunset. As the wars wind down in Iraq and Afghanastan...this law should expire, but instead the very thing we feared about the law is happening. As silly as it sounds today...we trusted our leaders with this power and that is all that was needed for progressives to abuse it.
The web that has been created is amazing in its scope. There will be a time, soon approaching, that you will not go a day without having to break some law...in order to live.
bfl
My answers to your questions in the order you asked are:
1. When obama was “deemed” passed.
2. It don’t matter if they talk about or not. What matters is what they do about it and my belief is that they will not do anything.
3. They already talked about it. Again, what counts is what they do and again believe that they will not do anything.
4. In my opinion, yes.
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