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David Stockman: American Exceptionalism Is 'Neo-Con Code' For Aggressive Foreign Policy
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 01/22/2012 6:08:56 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

There are few things the liberal media like more than a Republican renegade. David Stockman has made a career out of strutting his independence from the GOP. So little surprise that he was an honored guest on this morning's Up With Chris Hayes on MSNBC.

That Stockman repaid his hosts by attacking Republicans was utterly predictable. Even so, the absurdity of Stockman's particular assertion was breathtaking. The former Reagan budget director actually claimed that the notion of American exceptionalism, a focus of Newt Gingrich's campaign, is nothing less than . . . "neo-con code" for an aggressive foreign policy.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: davidstockman; exceptionalism; foreignpolicy; neocons

1 posted on 01/22/2012 6:09:03 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Even by the low standards to which we hold David Stockman, this is asinine. Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 01/22/2012 6:10:29 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Everything is “code word” these days. Criticize any liberal idea and it’s “code word” for racism. Really?

Maybe we should mark everything the Dems say as code word for Marxism.


3 posted on 01/22/2012 6:22:11 AM PST by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: tips up

Another America hater speaks.


4 posted on 01/22/2012 6:30:24 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

5 posted on 01/22/2012 6:31:06 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Kinda funny how David Stockman has risen in my mind lately.

Amid all the fighting about Bain Capital, I did some digging on the company that bought my last job out from under me. It was Collins and Aikman who in turn declared bankruptcy in 07 with David Stockman at the helm.


6 posted on 01/22/2012 6:32:28 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
How can David Stockman speak in this position?


7 posted on 01/22/2012 6:36:52 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The Democrat’s foreign policy doesn’t have a code word; it just has a word: cowardice.


8 posted on 01/22/2012 6:43:22 AM PST by Loud Mime (When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
It's pretty obvious, to me, that our military is used by the globalist elites as muscle and whoever is in the Whitehouse marches to their orders. There is no way a Barack Obama would be as hawkish as he is, unless someone else was calling the shots.

My point, until we get a president who can stand up to these powers -- we will have aggressive foreign policy and our boys will go off and fight murky missions on our dime for interests not entirely our own.

9 posted on 01/22/2012 6:51:00 AM PST by riri
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To: riri

You must taken your tin foil hat off.


10 posted on 01/22/2012 7:03:56 AM PST by ohioman
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To: riri

You must taken your tin foil hat off.


11 posted on 01/22/2012 7:04:06 AM PST by ohioman
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To: riri

You must taken your tin foil hat off.


12 posted on 01/22/2012 7:04:18 AM PST by ohioman
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Why is it that so many Reagan affiliates turn out to be liberals?


13 posted on 01/22/2012 7:13:00 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Loud Mime
"The Democrat's foreign policy"

The is no democrat foreign policy just as there is no republican foreign policy.

Instead, there are competing foreign policy groups, schools, or doctrines in both parties.

In the republican party there are Realists, NeoCons, and Isolationists
In the democrat party there are Realists, Liberal Interventionists, and Anti-war pacifists.

Stockman is a Realist.

All republican presidents will have a foreign policy team composed of Realists and NeoCons and usually will have Realists serving as Sec of State and NSA while the SecDef job usually goes to a NeoCon

All democrat presidents will have a foreign policy team composed of Realists and Liberal Interventionists and will usually have Realists serving as SecDef and NSA while the Sec of State job usually goes to a Liberal Interventionist.

14 posted on 01/22/2012 7:16:47 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: tips up
"Everything is “code word” these days"

And using the word "neocon" is a codeword for being anti-semitic.

Everybody loves throwing around codewords.

15 posted on 01/22/2012 7:27:30 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sometimes it sounds like “David Stockman” is just a code word for “Stockholm Syndrome-addled dupe”...


16 posted on 01/22/2012 7:56:36 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

American exceptionalism refers to the theory that the United States is qualitatively different from other countries. In this view, America’s exceptionalism stems from its emergence from a revolution, becoming “the first new nation,”[1] and developing a uniquely American ideology, based on liberty, egalitarianism, individualism, populism and laissez-faire.

This observation can be traced to Alexis de Tocqueville, the first writer to describe the United States as “exceptional” in 1831 and 1840.[2] Historian Gordon Wood has argued, “Our beliefs in liberty, equality, constitutionalism, and the well-being of ordinary people came out of the Revolutionary era. So too did our idea that we Americans are a special people with a special destiny to lead the world toward liberty and democracy.”[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism


17 posted on 01/22/2012 7:58:30 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: tips up

Agree. This concept of “code words” lets someone put words in someone else’s mouth. Maybe “neo con” is a code word as well?


18 posted on 01/22/2012 8:34:33 AM PST by Anima Mundi (NO SPECIAL PRIVILEGE)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hey, Haiti is exceptional too. So is Mongolia. There are all sorts of ways of being exceptional.

The exceptionalism I want in the USA is a country that abides by its Constitution, that exceptional charter created by an exceptional generation to establish principles of limited government grounded in virtue and liberty.


19 posted on 01/22/2012 9:09:07 AM PST by Malesherbes (- Sauve qui peut)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’ve about had it with “code” and “dog whistles” and other mind-reading terminology that is only applied to Republicans.


20 posted on 01/22/2012 9:12:30 AM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

You’re right on the details. I should have been more specific.


21 posted on 01/22/2012 9:21:57 AM PST by Loud Mime (When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)
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To: ohioman

I did, three times. (;


22 posted on 01/22/2012 10:51:15 AM PST by riri
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Before Stockman was a GOP junior Congressman chosen to be Reagan’s Budget Director, Stockman had been an activist in Students for a Democratic Society (Tom Hayden, Bill Ayres, Bernardine Doehrn, Mark Rudd, et al.) and naturally, he betrayed Reagan as budget director before being canned. Ten he moved to Greenwich, CT to be a stockbroker. His wife has been a major pro-abort as a past Chairman of the “Republican Majority for Choice” (translation: a few pretentious spoiled brat “Republicans” who want poor babies slaughtered generally and the babies of their peers slaughtered when their moms find them inconvenient).


23 posted on 01/22/2012 3:55:13 PM PST by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: riri

You can’t say things like that here - it’s still WWII rules and no matter what our political class decides to do with our military, it’s absolutely and unquestionably necessary. :)


24 posted on 01/22/2012 4:07:14 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: riri
Well, like paleoPaulie and Stockman, you must not like America very much. Maybe you all would prefer to live in some enemy land which shares your views. At least, if you MUST stay here, you can join the Demonratic Party or Socialist "Workers" Party or CPUSA or some party that shares your military/foreign policy views. Take Paul and Stockman with you. Remember that Neville Chamberlain was NO conservative. BTW, I live in the rural Midwest. Anyone familiar with my finances can affirm that I am not a local, much less a global, elite.

Are you hallucinating that Barack Hussein Obozo is some sort of, ummmm, "neo-con?" I hope that yor family members are honest enough to exercise an appropriate degree of shame over your views.

Conservatism is interventionist in foreign policy and not a pack of lily-livered Neville Chamberlain/George McGovern/Code Pink cowards, weeping for "trade" and "friendship" with our sworn enemies. Sean Penn is no conservative and neither is the Galveston crackpot.

These wars would be a lot more popular if we concentrated on striking with overwhelming force, worried not a whit about nation-building and extracted every nickel of costs from the enemies responsible for their own devastation. Wherever possible, this should be accomplished by death from the sky and not boots on the ground in a matter of days and not years.

Nationally syndicated conservative Cincinnati talk jock Bill Cunningham ranted last week that we should make a list of the twenty largest cities in any enemy country to be attacked, give two days notice, and if the enemy fails to comply with demands, the twenty cities become history. I would add, present a bill for the destruction and, if not paid in one week, eliminate the resistant rest. Do one enemy (Iran?) like that and you will be surprised at how few wars we will have to fight thereafter.

What you call globalists might instead be those who run major businesses which profit massively from ridiculously prolonged land wars.

Oh, and no more wars under the UN, NATO or any other treaty organization. We intervene without anyone's permission. We don't curtsy. We don't bow. We don't prosecute our service personnel either for killing the enemy relentlessly and breaking their things. It is their job.

Globalists run the UN. We should quit the UN and kick it out of New York. If we stay in the UN, we should cast a Security Council veto against absolutely everything they do. We won't have to worry about co-operating with globalists thereafter.

25 posted on 01/22/2012 4:22:33 PM PST by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: BlackElk
Are you hallucinating that Barack Hussein Obozo is some sort of, ummmm, "neo-con?

Hardly. I am saying he watches ESPN, throws parties, takes trips, plays golf and gets his M.O. from others. He's just fairly confident it'll all shake out, as Saul and Ayers filled his head, as it should.

26 posted on 01/22/2012 4:34:50 PM PST by riri
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