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Posted on 01/17/2012 12:53:12 PM PST by RayBob
I've been hearing the same ad for Newt over and over... Michelle Bachmann praising Newt in some sort of speach, talking about him in glowing terms "changing history" yada, yada, yada. The ad is paid for by Newt's SuperPAC
So here's my question: Did Bachmann come out and endorse newt or did they dredge up some old speaches and take the statements out of context to craft it to look like Bachmann endorsed Newt?
Smart political move.
I heard the ad. It had BS claiming to have “balanced four straight budgets” and claiming to have “paid down debt.”
Lying will not help.
Just the other day was a story saying that she had asked to have the ad removed.
The cat has left the bag. If she didn't mean it when she said it, then she shouldn't have said it when she did.
I just heard the ad on Hannity. It’s a good ad, but it also will reveal whether Bachmann had been a secret Romney hopeful shilling for a ride as VP or in a cabinet.
The problem is that embarrassing Newt will mean no hope for a White House dinner if Newt ends up the nominee.
I was not a Bachmann supporter. More than anything, from the beginning I thought she was trying to be a Palin knockoff, riding Sarah’s coattails simply because Michelle, too, was a female.
That’s how she started, so I always considered her a voice with no substance.
Bachmann already came out and asked the superpac to pull the ad because it was misleading.
Just because Gingrich is unlikeable and treats women like dirt, does that mean his supporters have to be that way too?
Michelle Bachmann was in a statewide elected office way before Sarah Palin. She was, and is, a force for conservatism and is courageous in her unflinching stands against liberal policies. She might never have had adulterous affairs, nor been publicly censured for ethics violations, nor quit her elected office because she couldn't have her way, nor cozyed up to Pelosi and Sharpton, like your hero the Newt, but please give her credit for standing on her own against, well...just those very things that the Newt is guilty of.
I was listening to Newt last night, and getting excited because he does say so much that sounds good and he says it well.
Then he talked about his record, and said that during his term as Speaker we had the only 4 balanced budgets, and a surplus.
That got me thinking. He was speaker from January 2005 through January of 2009. We didn’t start getting “balanced budgets” under any definition of that term until 1997. The 4 years with surpluses were 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001. But these are fiscal years — Fiscal year 1998 started in October of 1997.
GIngrich was responsible for the budgets starting with fiscal year 1996. His last budget started in fiscal year 1999, which they passed just before the 1998 elections.
So even if you credit him for the fiscal year budgets which covered time when he was no longer in office, he still only had balanced budgets for 2 of his 4 years.
He could easily claim credit for the 4 years, by stating it was his policies that carried on when he was gone. But by saying they were balanced “during his time as speaker” he misleads in more ways than one, since his first budget as speaker wasn’t balanced, and nor was his second.
It’s easy enough to check this stuff, and he must know better, and it’s annoying that in the middle of a really good speech that gets you excited he has to throw in a clearly false claim, when a true claim would work just as well.
It’s like when he takes credit for everything Reagan did. I appreciate that he voted for stuff Reagan wanted, but he was just a lowly house member back then, and hardly had responsibility or power to make Reagan’s dreams a reality. He was just a cog in the wheel, and he shouldn’t take more credit than he deserves.
Not that it really matters, but Bachmann was a member of the US House, and that is not a statewide elective office.
Prior to that she was in the Minn Senate, and that also is not a statewide elective office.
I have my opinion that she rode Palin’s coattails, and that is exactly when she showed up, so I’d say there’s some justification for my thinking that.
BTW, since I did (do) support Sarah Palin, the point about mistreating women is moot.
And, Newt isn’t my hero. I was a Perry supporter from about a year before the campaign even began and Perry even hinted at running. I have watched and settle on Newt once it became evident that Perry had fired his final volley.
Newt definitely has warts, but so do all of them. None of the remaining, though, come close to Newt’s strengths.
It's not out of context or cherry picked.
The ad doesn't say or suggest she has endorsed Newt! Where are you all getting that?
It is an ad where Michele Bachmann glowingly praises Newt. It's her voice. She hasn't been in politics very long, so it can't be that old.
SHE SAID IT. Either she is a LIAR, or she meant it. NOTHING wrong with this ad. It's factual. Maybe Michele doesn't like her own words being used, but then I guess she shouldn't have said it.
““balanced four straight budgets” and claiming to have “paid down debt.”
absolutely TRUE, not BS. Look it up.
The ad is NOT misleading. Is she denying that she said it? Is that not her voice? Sounds like she was pretty impressed with Newt at the time.
If she spoke those words and they weren’t edited out of context – then there’s no problem with using them. She needs to be quiet and let the chips fall.
FY end and accumulated debt
09/30/1999 - 5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 - 5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 - 5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 - 5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 - 4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 - 4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 - 4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 - 4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 - 3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 - 3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 - 2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 - 2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 - 2,350,276,890,953.00
I guess I missed the balanced and surplus in the above information. Can you please tell me how a budget is balanced or a debt is repaid and the debt continues to accumulate.
You are correct and your lies are not appreciated and will not help mitt
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