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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Which is worse? Pissing away our resources in support of foreign lands who don't give a rats behind about our ideals, or aiming to overthrow those ideals from within? If you think Ron Paul is on board with the overthrow of our Country, there ain't a big enough tin foil hat in the world. And if you think I'm on board with Stormfronters and/or Cindy Sheehan, your credibility lacks from the get go.

If the enemies of our country are sandbagging Ron Paul with their crazy ideas, are you going to believe Ron Paul supports them? That's nuttier than truthers. It's also a tacit admission that you don't think we have the will, resources, and capacity to defend ourselves.

83 posted on 01/13/2012 11:04:52 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I’m not entirely sure what you’re asking, but I’ll give it a shot anyway.

Do I think Ron Paul is on board with the takeover of America? I have no idea if he fully understands what he’s doing or where it will lead. He’s not particularly lucid or insightful, he relies heavily on vacuous, well-worn talking points about sound money and The Fed and liberty and what-have-you and his writings — from his newsletters to his columns that I’ve read on antiwar.com and other sites — seem to be pro-forma libertarian boilerplate designed to be distributed among his fans. I honestly can’t get a read on his motivation because I have no idea what his thought process is. He’s been using the same talking points for the four decades of writings and appearances that I have access to. When I read Jefferson or Adams, or even Reagan, they give me a glimpse into their though processes. Ron Paul’s words offer no such insight. He essentially bangs his fist down and tells me how it is. So I can’t speak to his motivation because I have no idea how he thinks. And I can’t speak to what’s in his heart for obvious reasons.

What I do know is that he’s deeply damaging to this country and that his words greatly please the Russians and the Iranians — and have for years. So much so that they use their propaganda networks to raise money for him (in the case of RT) and give him an open forum to speak his anti-American policy views in the harshest terms possible. That’s alarming to me. In my parents’ generation, such actions were unthinkable. Now those actions are completely ignored. When an American politician can get away with going on Iranian state-controlled television to savage U.S. policy and call Israel an apartheid-state, nothing matters to the American voter anymore. And that’s something we will not survive.

As far as what I think you’re on board with, I don’t. You represent words on a screen, not a real person. No offense. It’s just futile to form opinions about who you are or what your motivations are. I try to respond to words, not people. At least in this medium I do.

And, if we’re going to talk like grown-ups, drop the tin-foil nonsense. Men conspire to attain power over other men, and have since the dawn of time. Talking about aluminum foil at the mere mention of such an obvious universal truth is nothing but a tired and lazy way of being dismissive. It’s beneath this forum and really needs to be put to rest. If you think Ron Paul is unimpeachable, that’s fine. I don’t think any man not named Jesus Christ is. But I am open to the possibility that Ron Paul is merely being used and manipulated by men much smarter than he is.


86 posted on 01/14/2012 12:19:24 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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