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Mormons 'face more bigotry than black Americans'...
UK Daily Mail ^ | January 13, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 01/13/2012 6:26:14 AM PST by C19fan

Nearly half of Mormons say church members face significant discrimination in the United States, and a third believe voters are not ready to elect Mitt Romney, or any other member of their church, president.

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The Pew study found that almost half of Mormons in the U.S. consider themselves more discriminated against than African Americans.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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Do African-Americans get tired of other groups claiming to have been treated as badly as they have been or perhaps are treated? If it worked for gays why not Mormons.
1 posted on 01/13/2012 6:26:16 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

If a Mormon was standing next to a black I could tell who was black - could not tell just from looking the other guy was a Mormon.


2 posted on 01/13/2012 6:39:35 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: C19fan

If people have valid reasons for their opinions is it still bigotry?


3 posted on 01/13/2012 6:42:04 AM PST by dog breath
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To: C19fan

I know a lot of Mormons and have never heard anything about them comparing themselves to Blacks. Come to think of it not long ago I met yet another black Mormon. The singer Gladys Knight. I wonder what she and other black Mormons think of this information....


4 posted on 01/13/2012 6:42:46 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: C19fan

Can someone here please break out the BS Meter? Set it to “Man the Boat”? It’s been so long since I’ve posted, that I’ve forgotten how.


5 posted on 01/13/2012 6:44:30 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: C19fan

I have a Mormon friend who gets very upset and feels discriminated against if someone asks deep questions about doctrine and beliefs.

There seems to be an ingrained feeling of victimhood, probably based on history.

I suspect that if Romney is the pubbie nominee, we are all going to learn lots and lots about LDS. And lots.


6 posted on 01/13/2012 6:53:53 AM PST by DBrow
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To: C19fan

The charge that black-americans are discriminated against makes me want to throw up. Whatever problems black-americans have, I’d say less than one percent of them are due to someone discriminating against them. The “racism is the problem” model went out decades ago.


7 posted on 01/13/2012 7:02:56 AM PST by driftless2
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To: DBrow
"I suspect that if Romney is the pubbie nominee, we are all going to learn lots and lots about LDS. And lots."

Been saying this for months. Romney will not be POTUS and the MSM/DNC knows this.
8 posted on 01/13/2012 7:03:08 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (A lie told over and over again is still just a lie and the one telling it a liar.)
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To: C19fan

[ almost half of Mormons in the U.S. consider themselves more discriminated against than African Americans. ]

They probably are.. Why NOT?..

Their beliefs are as strange as “Scientologists”...
Following an Angel called “MORON-I”.... pullleeese..


9 posted on 01/13/2012 7:03:29 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: C19fan
Just like white guilt elected Obama, I think this is nothing more than an attempt to shame people into believing they must vote for Romney to prove they aren't religiously bigoted, too.

I don't give a damn about the color of Obama's skin or Romney's religious beliefs.

What I do care about is how much they (plan to) interfere in the economy of this country. And in both cases, their past record is more than enough evidence for me to vote against them.

10 posted on 01/13/2012 7:04:04 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: C19fan
Ironically, there are more far more derogatory posts against Mormons on this forum than against black Americans. I think the same thing is reflected in popular culture as well.

One group votes overwhelmingly conservative, the other group votes overwhelming liberal. Guess which one it is unfashionable to take cheap shots at? Guess which one it is considered clever and fashionable to take cheap shots at?

11 posted on 01/13/2012 7:05:11 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: C19fan

On cannot change their race, but being Mormon is a choice.

Given the ample evidence that the LDS is a fraud, it is an easy one to make, one way or the other. If one is willing to face the truth.


12 posted on 01/13/2012 7:06:58 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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The Pew study found that almost half of Mormons in the U.S. consider themselves more discriminated against than African Americans.

Awww..poor wittle persecuted mormons....this victim card has been played for 180 years....

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The mormon church is a multi-billion-dollar corporation and its leaders are all businessmen...NOT theologians.

Council on the Disposition of the Tithes

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Council on the Disposition of the Tithes (also known as the Council on the Disposition of Tithing) is a leadership body in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, composed of the First Presidency, the Presiding Bishopric, and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. The Council determines how the tithing funds of the church will be spent. The Council oversees revenue, investments and expenditures valued at billions of dollars per year.

While the Church employs an independent auditing department which provides an annual report to the Church[1], it has not published full financial reports since 1959.

The Council was established by church founder Joseph Smith, Jr. on 8 July 1838.[2] As of April 2009, the members of the Council are:

NOTE: Mitt refuses to show his tax returns..the mormon church refuses to show ANY financial records.

13 posted on 01/13/2012 7:10:21 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Let's not vet Mitt w/Bain so Obama can do it all summer. /sarc)
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To: greyfoxx39

Apostate ping!


14 posted on 01/13/2012 7:25:37 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: DBrow

Yes, if Romney is the nominee, there will be plenty of factually based reports on Mormons that will leave the audience shaking their head in disbelief. And Romney and his supporters will have no defense.


15 posted on 01/13/2012 7:31:58 AM PST by bramps (zero from zero is zero)
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To: C19fan

mormons feel discriminated against for just exposing mormonISM.
What a bunch of cry babies.


16 posted on 01/13/2012 7:34:51 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Most of the “derogatory posts against Mormons” you’re referring to are actually derogatory posts against Mormonism, not Mormons themselves. Criticizing a philosophy is a bit different from criticizing a group based on the relative level of melanin content in their skin. Saying that someone is Black has very little inherent meaning. You know almost nothing about someone just by knowing their skin tone, it’s silly to form opinions based on that sole characteristic. A person identifying as a Mormon, OTOH, is self associating with a huge inventory of beliefs which can be critiqued, questioned and/or analyzed. There’s no real comparison between the two.


17 posted on 01/13/2012 7:36:30 AM PST by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: dog breath

Bigotry is used allot today to justify “inclusion” and “universality”.

Christianity has basic doctrines and beliefs which Mormonism absolutely does not adhere to and in fact opposes. Mormonism is not Christian and it is a cult, easily seen for anyone who investigates their beliefs....it’s been stated so for generations now and the Christian communnity will continue to fight their teachings which oppose Christianity.

Mormonism is counterfeit Christianity and fulfills all the earmarks of a cult across the board.


18 posted on 01/13/2012 7:42:12 AM PST by caww
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To: ejonesie22

For those that want to know the truth

www.mormoncurtain.com


19 posted on 01/13/2012 7:57:35 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Vigilanteman

Pulling out the victim card already?


20 posted on 01/13/2012 8:29:47 AM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I’m the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: C19fan

Brigham Young, when making his play for control of Mormonism after the death of Joseph Smith, used the persecution card, including exaggerating the persecution, in order to keep loyalty and cohesion during the succession battle. The ‘us vs. them’ mentality served him well and continued on in Utah.

Sadly, it has become such a part of the culture (and to them ‘proof’ that the LDS church is ‘true’) that members will cry persecution if you ask questions. One member on here has told a story about how an LDS missionary she knew was ‘persecuted’ when someone threw a glass of water on her.

That isn’t persecution that is being overly-sensitive.


21 posted on 01/13/2012 8:36:18 AM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I’m the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Your religion claims to be 'restored' Christianity. Because your religion as issued via LDS inc makes this claim then tries to hide from debate by playing the victim card, some of us at FR post the quotes from your founders and 'apostles' and 'prophets'/presidents of the LDS inc org.

I can understand why exposing the anti-Christian teachings of MormonISM gets under your collar and you make false assertions which try to divert from the ISM and appear that the people are being 'hated'. That's the nature of the Mormon victim card. we see it daily at FR.

That Mormon effort to msidrect from the ISM to the individuals is a form of Mormon taqqiya, also known as 'lying for the faith'. In non-religious circles it would be known as political correctness run amok.

Some Mormons are Christians, but MormonISM is not what your founding false prophet, Joseph Smith calimed, it is not 'restored Christianity' because it is riddled with the spirit of anti-christ, like the following quote from one of your 'apostles', a quote found in the LDS inc Journal of Discourses:

"We may talk of men being redeemed by the efficacy of his [Christ's] blood; but the truth is that that blood has no efficacy to wash away our sins. That must depend upon our own action." [ LDS Apostle Amasa M. Lyman, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 299, 1859]

Given this mormonic teaching that is the very essence of Antichrist, it is still amazing how much LDS inc apologists want folks to believe LDS inc is Christianity restored! MormonISM is the very essence of slick anti-Christ inveigling, and the promoters of this anti-Christian religion will continue to be exposed and opposed so long as Christians are not squelched by the political correctness approach inherent in the lie that exposing mormonISM is hate or hatred of the people trapped in this demonic cult.

22 posted on 01/13/2012 8:37:06 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: C19fan

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!.......just a minute.......have to catch my breath......hahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Having been on the receiving end of the wrath of the Mormon Protective Association (MPA), this is a case of the fox crying about how the chickens are mean to him.


23 posted on 01/13/2012 8:52:05 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Vigilanteman

Please show us what posts against mormons.
There are many posts exposing mormonISM.
Who votes conservative? Are you implying mormons?
94% of mormons vote Romney, a majority vote Reid.....hardly conservative.
The SLC lds leaders want to portray the membership as conservative, as time progresses it has become apparent that lds are not as conservative politically as the PR machine suggests.


24 posted on 01/13/2012 9:41:14 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: C19fan
Members of the breakaway LDS sect of mormonism truly believe they are discriminated against. I know I was one for 35 years. When folks post things like the referenced quote below the brainwashing kicks in...In the DAMAGED and WARPED psyche of the breakaway LDS sect member, it is simply not within the realm of possibility that this is actually a true and referenced quote, that their near god founder and pre-christ judge qould have taught such a heresey ! This is why they take such offense...they truly believe Christians are completely making this stuff up out of nowhere !

Last election cycle I fianlly got mad enough to go prove them wrong. I went into the church library and pulled they dusty old book from the top shelf and within hours the foundation of my entire life crumbled. LDS LEADERS LIKE LIKE ROMNEY TOLD ME TO LIE ABOUT IT AND COVER IT UP ! When I resigned and left the church, they called me a "BIGOT" ! FR Christians I had visciously battled with here like GreyFoxx39, Elsie, Reaganaut and many others immediately took me in and comforted me. God saved me from this VISCIOUSLY DECEPTIVE AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY DAMAGING CULT.

The quote I mentioned....

"Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet...When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go." (FLDS/LDS "PROPHET" JOESEPH SMITH, History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409)

25 posted on 01/13/2012 9:49:13 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: C19fan
Mormons 'face more bigotry than black Americans'

Oh my!

That is just too damned BAD!!




"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)





Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

 

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

 

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

 



 

26 posted on 01/13/2012 12:54:46 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: C19fan
Do African Native-Americans get tired of other groups claiming to have been treated as badly as they have been or perhaps are treated?
27 posted on 01/13/2012 12:56:04 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39

WHO said CORPORATION???

(Pay attention at 0:58...)

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-wjwiJmnJnhYuY/o_brother_where_art_thou_2000_robbing_a_bank/


28 posted on 01/13/2012 1:13:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
WHO said CORPORATION???




Corporation of the President

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

STATE OF UTAH

COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

I, the undersigned, having been duly chosen and appointed President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in conformity with the rites, regulations and discipline of said Church, being desirous of forming a corporation for the purpose of acquiring, holding and disposing of Church or religious society property, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship, under and pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 3, Title 19, of the Compiled Laws of Utah, 1917, on "Churches and Religious Societies," and all acts amendatory thereof and supplementary thereto, for that purpose do hereby make and subscribe, in duplicate, the following

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION

First: The name of this corporation shall be the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

Second: The object of this corporation shall be to acquire, hold and dispose of such real and personal property as may be conveyed to or acquired by said corporation for the benefit of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a religious society, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship. Such real and personal property may be situated, either within the State of Utah, or elsewhere, and this corporation shall have power, without any authority or authorization from the members of said Church or religious society, to grant, sell, convey, rent, mortgage, exchange, or otherwise dispose of any part or all of such property.

Third: The estimated value of the property of which I hold the legal title for the purpose aforesaid, at the time of making these Articles of Incorporation, is One Million, Five Hundred Thousand Dollars.

Fourth: The title of the person making these Articles of Incorporation is "PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS."

Fifth: The corporation seal shall contain the words, "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," and an impression thereof is hereto affixed.

[Seal] [Signed] Heber J. Grant
President of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints.

STATE OF UTAH
SS:
COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

On this 26th day of November, 1923, before me, Arthur Winter, a Notary Public in and for said County, personally appeared HEBER J. GRANT, who is known to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to the foregoing instrument as President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and duly acknowledged to me that he executed the same as such President.

[Seal] [Signed] Arthur Winter
Notary Public
Residing at Salt Lake City, Utah.
My commission expires Dec. 1, 1923.


AMENDMENT TO

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

 

 

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
STATE OF UTAH ss.
COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

HEBER J. GRANT, being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

That he is now and for more than twenty years last past has been the duly chosen and appointed President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and as such President has been since on or about the 26th day of November, 1923, and now is, the legally constituted Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter=day Saints, a corporation sole; that under and pursuant to Section 18-7-5 R.S.U. 1933 he hereby amends Article "Fourth" of said Articles of Incorporation as now of record in the proper offices of this and other states, said article as amended to read as follows:

ARTICLE FOURTH

Fourth: The title of the person making these articles of incorporation is "President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." He and his successor in office shall be deemed and are hereby created a body politic and corporation sole with perpetual succession, having all the powers and rights and authority in these articles specified or provided for by law. But in the event of death or resignation from office of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or in the event of a vacancy in that office from any cause, the President or Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of said Church, or one of the members of said Quorum thereunto designated by that Quorum, shall, pending the installation of a successor President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, be the corporation sole under these articles, and the laws pursuant to which they are made, and shall be and is authorized in his official capacity to execute in the name of the corporation all documents or other writings necessary to the carrying on of its purposes, business and objects, and to do all things in the name of the corporation which the original signer of the articles of incorporation might do; it being the purpose of these articles that there shall be no failure in succession in the office of such corporation sole.

[Signed] Heber J. Grant
President of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints,
corporation sole.
[Seal]

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 18 day of June, 1940.
[the name of Notary Public not shown on copy of amendment]

(Original in State of Utah Archives, Salt Lake City, Utah)


ARTICLES OF AMENDMENT
TO THE

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.


A UTAH CORPORATION SOLE

Pursuant to the provisions of Section 16-7-5 of the Utah Code Annotated 1953 (as amended) relating to amendments of articles of incorporation of corporations sole, the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole, does hereby amend its Articles of Incorporation by adding an additional Paragraph V thereto as follows:

Upon the winding up and dissolution of this corporation, after paying or adequately providing for the debts and obligations of the corporation, the remaining assets shall be distributed to a nonprofit fund, foundation or corporation, which is organized and operated exclusively for charitable, educational, or religious and/or scientific purposes and which has established its tax-exempt status under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned has caused these presents to be executed this 19th day of November, 1973.

CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE
CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY
SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole

By: [signed] Harold B. Lee
Harold B. Lee, Corporation Sole

STATE OF UTAH ) ss:
County of Salt Lake )

HAROLD B. LEE, being first duly sworn, deposes and says: That he is now and ever since July 7, 1972, has been the duly chosen and appointed President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and, as such president, is now and ever since said date has been the legally constituted CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole; that the original Articles of Incorporation of said Corporation Sole were executed by Heber J. Grant, President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints; that he, Harold B. Lee, is the successor in office to the said Heber J. Grant; that he, Harold B. Lee, executed the foregoing Articles of Amendment as said Corporation Sole.

[signed] Harold B. Lee

SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN to before me this 19th day of November, 1973.

[signed] Wilford W Kirton, Jr
NOTARY PUBLIC
Residing at Salt Lake City, Utah
My commission expires:
2-3-77


Articles of Incorporation as amended:

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION

First: The name of this corporation shall be the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

Second: The object of this corporation shall be to acquire, hold and dispose of such real and personal property as may be conveyed to or acquired by said corporation for the benefit of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a religious society, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship. Such real and personal property may be situated, either within the State of Utah, or elsewhere, and this corporation shall have power, without any authority or authorization from the members of said Church or religious society, to grant, sell, convey, rent, mortgage, exchange, or otherwise dispose of any part or all of such property.

Third: The estimated value of the property of which I hold the legal title for the purpose aforesaid, at the time of making these Articles of Incorporation, is One Million, Five Hundred Thousand Dollars.

Fourth: The title of the person making these articles of incorporation is "President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." He and his successor in office shall be deemed and are hereby created a body politic and corporation sole with perpetual succession, having all the powers and rights and authority in these articles specified or provided for by law. But in the event of death or resignation from office of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or in the event of a vacancy in that office from any cause, the President or Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of said Church, or one of the members of said Quorum thereunto designated by that Quorum, shall, pending the installation of a successor President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, be the corporation sole under these articles, and the laws pursuant to which they are made, and shall be and is authorized in his official capacity to execute in the name of the corporation all documents or other writings necessary to the carrying on of its purposes, business and objects, and to do all things in the name of the corporation which the original signer of the articles of incorporation might do; it being the purpose of these articles that there shall be no failure in succession in the office of such corporation sole.

Fifth: Upon the winding up and dissolution of this corporation, after paying or adequately providing for the debts and obligations of the corporation, the remaining assets shall be distributed to a nonprofit fund, foundation or corporation, which is organized and operated exclusively for charitable, educational, or religious and/or scientific purposes and which has established its tex-exempt status under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.

Sixth: The corporate seal shall contain the words, "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," and an impression thereof is hereto affixed.

29 posted on 01/13/2012 1:14:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

BOO HOO!

Christians are MEAN to us!!!



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

30 posted on 01/13/2012 1:19:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: SENTINEL

Applause, brother!


31 posted on 01/13/2012 1:54:41 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I’m the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: caww

I think LDS has plenty in common with Christians of all denominations. We believe in God, believe in Jesus Christ as the Savior, believe in living according to the teachings of Jesus.

I live and work around people who are almost all non-Mormons and find I have lots in common with other Christians. We have very similar values, ideals and hopes.

I think sometimes people blow up the differences to be a major problem. That’s why it’s surprising to come on FR and find people getting so upset about Mormonism. LDS are generally good neighbors, believers in common decency, lovers of country, family and friends.

I appreciate my friends of all religious backgrounds and enjoy associating with them.


32 posted on 01/13/2012 2:05:31 PM PST by Normandy
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To: Normandy; caww
Norm, "blow up the differences"?
No, Joseph Smith made it very clear “all Christians are abomination”, how then can there be commonalities.
No, mormonISM teaches a created progressed god.
No, mormonISM teaches a created progressed jesus.
No mormonISM does not teach Biblical principles, mormonISM teaches a distorted view of God Almighty, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.
No, mormonISM does not even teach their own lds jesus can save, IE “after all we can do.
Norm, there are NO similarities between mormonISM and Christianity.
33 posted on 01/13/2012 2:56:31 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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Slap those Dems!




34 posted on 01/13/2012 3:23:36 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Normandy
I appreciate my friends of all religious backgrounds and enjoy associating with them.

Can't we all sing Kumbaya and just all get along...? Yeah, we COULD..if mormons stopped claiming to be Christians after nearly two centuries of denigrating everything Christian.

Sorry, this type of SO two-faced and condescending post from mormons that try to gloss over the lies that the mormon church leaders have told, including the one that compares them to persecuted blacks will NOT go unanswered.

The post I am responding to is just SO holier-than-thou and superior. Whether someone "gets along and has much in common" does not alter the fact that mormon belief is that all other faiths are apostate and the only way to salvation is through the gates of the mormon temple, and most importantly in this context "mormons are special God chose Joseph Smith to restore His Gospel".

Echoes of the old "Some of my best friends are...black, hispanic, etc. etc. "gentile" ring out over the land.

35 posted on 01/13/2012 4:03:05 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Let's not vet Mitt w/Bain so Obama can do it all summer. /sarc)
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To: greyfoxx39

Amen sister!


36 posted on 01/13/2012 4:11:28 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Normandy

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Mormonism is NOT Christian in any sense of the word.


37 posted on 01/13/2012 4:22:21 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Hear Hear!


38 posted on 01/13/2012 4:23:05 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Normandy
"That’s why it’s surprising to come on FR and find people getting so upset about Mormonism"

Norm, of all the mormons I've interacted with in real life and here on FR, I find it hard to believe you just wrote that.

You and the other mormon FReepers should know quite well why Christians get "upset about mormonism".

It's not like it hasn't been explained and shown to you all numerous times.

39 posted on 01/13/2012 4:34:54 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

They have eyes but will not see. They have ears but will not listen. Trying to debate a Mormon vs Christianity is like trying to pick up mercury wearing rubber gloves.


40 posted on 01/13/2012 4:38:45 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: SkyDancer
Trying to debate a Mormon vs Christianity is like trying to pick up mercury wearing rubber gloves.

;0)

41 posted on 01/13/2012 4:45:57 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Let's not vet Mitt w/Bain so Obama can do it all summer. /sarc)
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To: greyfoxx39

After thinking about that I’d rather go after the mercury. It’d be easier.


42 posted on 01/13/2012 5:07:00 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: Normandy
I think LDS has plenty in common with Christians of all denominations.

Likewise...

I know LDS has plenty in common with HERESIES of all stripes.

43 posted on 01/13/2012 5:31:45 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Normandy
I think sometimes people blow up the differences to be a major problem. That’s why it’s surprising to come on FR and find people getting so upset about Mormonism.

I am suprised that YOU, Norm, will not Reject or Affirm the words said by your leaders.

But, you are in good(?) company as NONE of the FR mormons will do it either.

It's shown right above; #30.

Will you CONTINUE to ignore?

44 posted on 01/13/2012 5:35:32 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Normandy

Office of First President & Living Prophet

November 1st, 2011

The message for this month is -

...to stay on our mantra: We ARE Christians!!

We've been taking a beating on the Internet - especially from those hateful ANTIs on FreeRepublic!
 
We MUST keep the media constantly informed of those things the world considers christian.

We must NOT allow our MORMONness to show thru, as it has gotten a really bad rap thru history - lord only knows why...
 
 
Tommy

45 posted on 01/13/2012 5:36:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Normandy

“We believe in God,”
... you forgot to mention Gods - lots of them!

“believe in Jesus Christ as the Savior,”
... you forgot to mention the Jesus you believe in was created and consequently, is unable to save.

“believe in living according to the teachings of Jesus.”
... and of course living according to Jesus’ teachings is a good thing. Truth with action is even better.


46 posted on 01/13/2012 5:38:48 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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THX 1138


47 posted on 01/13/2012 5:47:37 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Normandy
I'm not LDS, but I work with LDS. I'm also friends with LDS who understand what all the fuss is about. I support the right of LDS to believe as they choose.

I read LDS members who say they believe in Jesus Christ; I read others who talk about LDS polytheism, and exaltation to gods; and how God was a man who was exalted; and how Jesus and Lucifer are two of God's many children; and how works are necessary for salvation; and more. And I read people like Bill McKeever. How would you respond to him, as a LDS member? Are his points valid? He seems to target LDS prophets' statements that run contrary to your of similar values, ideals and hopes.

Bill McKeever, the founder of the Mormonism Research Ministry, had this response to the two claims that: (1) it's ridiculous to suggest that the LDS faith is in some important sense outside of the Christian fold, and (2) Latter-day Saints never level harsh criticism at other faiths or at their adherents.

But let me see if I understand this correctly, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Let's see. You say my church is "wrong"1, you say my creeds are an "abomination""2, my pastor is "corrupt""3, my Heavenly Father is 'invented'"4, my Jesus is "mythical""5, my Trinity is a "monster""6, my justification is "pernicious""7, my grace is a "fallacious doctrine originated by Satan""8, and my Bible is not trustworthy. "9 Then when I attempt to offer any sort of disagreement or rebuttal, you accuse me of hatred and bigotry, or even of being 'un-Christlike'. And if that isn't enough, to add insult to injury, you want to steal my name [of 'Christian']! Let me just say, folks: not on my watch. I am not going to be manipulated by people that try to use these type of measures to coerce me into embracing an organization that teaches things that are blatantly unbiblical, just so that we might have peace.


11 Joseph Smith History 1:19
2 Joseph Smith History 1:19; Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2nd ed. (Salt Lake City, UT: Bookcraft, 1979), 440-441; Hyrum M. Smith, "Discourse by Elder Hyrum M. Smith", Liahona The Elders' Journal 14/27 (2 January 1917): 419.
3 Joseph Smith History 1:19; Parley P. Pratt, Key to the Science of Theology (Liverpool: F. D. Richards, 1855), 167; Hyrum M. Smith, "Discourse by Elder Hyrum M. Smith", Liahona The Elders' Journal 14/27 (2 January 1917): 418-419.
4 Edward L. Kimball, ed., Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball (Salt Lake City, UT: Bookcraft, 1995), 426.
5 Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2nd ed. (Salt Lake City, UT: Bookcraft, 1979), 269.
6 Joseph Smith, "Sermon in the Grove", 16 June 1844, quoted in History of the Church 6:476, and reprinted in Joseph F. Smith, comp., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith (Salt Lake City, UT: Deseret Book, 1977), 372. The word "monster" was added in the reconstruction of the sermon, and does not appear in Thomas Bullock's original notes, though these themselves make clear that Joseph Smith leveled a great deal of hostile mockery at this sacred and central Christian teaching, and certainly whoever introduced that particular word was also LDS.
7 James E. Talmage, The Articles of Faith (Salt Lake City, UT: Deseret News, 1899), 120; Joseph Fielding Smith, The Restoration of All Things (Salt Lake City, UT: Deseret News, 1945), 192.
8 Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness (Salt Lake City, UT: Bookcraft, 1969), 206.
9 Articles of Faith 8; Orson Pratt, Divine Authenticity of the Book of Mormon (1850), reprinted in A Series of Pamphlets on the Doctrines of the Gospel (Salt Lake City, UT: Juvenile Instructor Office, 1884), 218-220; Neal A. Maxwell, "The Wondrous Restoration", Ensign (April 2003), 35.
48 posted on 01/13/2012 5:51:39 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: DBrow

What ever you do don’t ask about the nature of God. Its Anti-mormon.


49 posted on 01/13/2012 6:02:29 PM PST by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: Normandy
Nice try Norm, but you are just promoting the same bait and dwitch common to all mormonISM apologist ... start the plea with the ISM as focus but shift to the adherents and thus escape discussing the heresies and blasphemies at the heart of the ISM. You are practicing deceit when you do that, Norm. and I think you know it. Let me give you an example of this bait and switch, using the quote of one of your own 'apostles'.

here is a direct and honest quote right from your religion's Journal of Discourses though so highly of by the leadership of your religion:

"We may talk of men being redeemed by the efficacy of his [Christ's] blood; but the truth is that that blood has no efficacy to wash away our sins. That must depend upon our own action." [ LDS Apostle Amasa M. Lyman, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 299, 1859]

The Journal of Discourses are a compiled record of what has been taught as the foundational beliefs of Mormonism. Amasa Lyman was a devout man. He did not steal or get drunk, he did not make a habit of deceiving people else he could not be an apostle in the LDS hierarchy. His life stands as a witness to his devotion to his family and his Church.

Notice in the above italicized paragraph I started with a declaration on The Journal of Discourses, but instead of defending the teaching from Amasa Lyman, I shifted my plea to what a good man Amasa Lyman was. In this bait and switch technique, I avoid addressing and thus having to defend the blasphemous statement from Amasa Lyman which is found among the past teachings of your religion.

In seeking to remove the focus from the heretical assertion from Lyman that is found cherished by LDS inc publication in the Journal of Discourses I have purposely divert attention thus I have practiced to deceive the reader.

Notice, I have not called you a liar. This practice to deceive by diverting attention is something lawyers do frequently, and the courts do not hold them accountable for lying to the court. Purposely diverting attention from something/a blasphemy you wish to avoid defending and thus letting it slide, when so great an issue as the Blood of Christ as THE ONLY CLEANSING means for we sinners, is a despicable ploy, however. But then, pretending that mormonISM is 'restored Christianity' is a despicable behavior too, and one of the reasons mormonISM apologist like yourself are still openly opposed at Freerepublic.

50 posted on 01/13/2012 6:21:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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