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The Haditha Marines-The Squad Leader-A Final Chapter (SSgt Wuterich-Master Thread)
1-2-2012

Posted on 01/02/2012 10:28:48 AM PST by smoothsailing

January 2, 2012

The Haditha Marines-The Squad Leader-A Final Chapter

It certainly seems appropriate that the last defendant in the Haditha case is the squad leader, SSgt Frank Wuterich. Leaders take responsibility, and SSgt Wuterich has taken full responsibility for the actions of his squad in Haditha. His stance from the outset has remained clear:

"My Marines responded to the threats they faced in the manner that we all had been trained", he has steadfastly maintained. "I will bear the memory of the events of that day forever, and will always mourn the unfortunate deaths of the innocent Iraqis who were killed during our response to the attack."

As the last Marine originally charged in the deaths of Iraqis in Haditha, Iraq in 2005, SSgt Wuterich will be seated at the defense table in his general court-martial two days from now, Wednesday, January 4th. Barring last minute motions or outright dismissal of charges, jury selection will begin Wednesday or Thursday. SSgt. Wuterich will be tried by a jury of combat-experienced Marines, and the panel will include at least two Marines from the enlisted ranks.

Much has been written over the last six years about Haditha, and links to some of the most recent news articles and commentaries are included at the bottom of this post to help bring readers up to date. For older Free Republic postings, please use this link or enter the keyword Haditha in the Free Republic search engine.

The purpose of this Free Republic thread is to serve as a "Master Post" where trial news and updates can be brought together in one place for easy reference by those interested in following the proceedings as they unfold.

Freepers Smoothsailing, Red Rover, and Jazusamo will monitor the thread, post updates, and attempt to answer questions or direct readers to information sources. Jazusamo maintains the Haditha Marine Ping List. Please ask Jazusamo to be added to the ping list if you wish to be alerted to updates.

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To: Lancey Howard

I would assume a juror having this knowledge would work to the defense’ benefit, Lancey.......but, who knows.


221 posted on 01/11/2012 7:49:31 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Girlene; Lancey Howard; jazusamo; smoothsailing; xzins; lilycicero; Semper Fi Mom; ...
It's all too short, but Nat has a new piece up on DOM.

My favorite part, "Plagued with a terrible memory, the inability to articulate his thoughts, and a deer-in-the headlights demeanor, Dela Cruz didn’t seem to reinforce Sullivan’s case."

Camp Pendleton, Calif. – Sgt. Sanick P. Dela Cruz, a battle-rattled combat Marine who made a deal with the government to avoid court martial for murder, testified Wednesday morning that he saw Staff Sergeant Frank D. Wuterich shoot five unarmed Iraqi men after a roadside bomb exploded in Haditha in November 2005.

It is either the fourth or fifth version of his observations since he failed a polygraph, and then elected to accept immunity from prosecution, counting the two versions he presented at trial today. (More at the LINK).


222 posted on 01/11/2012 9:00:22 PM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover; Girlene; Lancey Howard; jazusamo
It is either the fourth or fifth version...

I would think Puckett could ask Dela Cruz about each version at some point. The panel seeing him trying to keep his stories straight would be priceless.

223 posted on 01/11/2012 9:10:01 PM PST by smoothsailing (www.FrankWuterich.com)
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To: RedRover

Is the fact that Dela Cruz flunked a polygraph admissible in this trial?


224 posted on 01/11/2012 9:11:35 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: smoothsailing; RedRover
The panel seeing him trying to keep his stories straight would be priceless.

That would be a hoot, especially after he already admitted he flunked a polygraph in his testimony.

Another good article by Nat!

225 posted on 01/11/2012 9:14:43 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: RedRover
Oh.. I see at the bottom of the story...

“You can get your point across that the witness is the biggest liar in the world without mentioning the polygraph," Jones admonished Faraj.

Apparently, the judge would not allow the word "polygrah" to be uttered. Still, that's a pretty funny comment by the judge.

226 posted on 01/11/2012 9:17:55 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard; jazusamo; smoothsailing

Yeah, I thought that was pretty hilarious!

Justin should be up tomorrow.


227 posted on 01/11/2012 9:21:15 PM PST by RedRover
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To: Lancey Howard

What started that in the courtroom was that Dela Cruz volunteered on the stand that he failed a polygraph, he’s not very bright.


228 posted on 01/11/2012 9:22:08 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; RedRover
“You can get your point across that the witness is the biggest liar in the world without mentioning the polygraph," Jones admonished Faraj.

I think I'm starting to take a liking to LtCol Jones! :)

229 posted on 01/11/2012 9:22:38 PM PST by smoothsailing (www.FrankWuterich.com)
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To: jazusamo; RedRover

Another one of Wuterich’s men who was there that day, former Marine Sgt. Hector Salinas, testified the squad came under heavy small-arms fire after the bombing.

Salinas said he also saw an Iraqi man running from the first of several homes the Marines stormed after the bombing and believed he could have been the one responsible for the attack.

He fired numerous shots at that man, and then took part in a series of “house clearing” operations that resulted in the deaths of 19 people inside that home.

The man seen running was never found.

That testimony could be key for the defense. It’s seeking to convince jurors Wuterich responded to the attack in accordance with his training. The civilian deaths, while regrettable, were not the result of criminal acts, the defense argues.

Read more: http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/military/military-marine-alleges-haditha-defendant-told-him-to-lie/article_5aae1693-6863-5cf8-bff4-8d77074efc27.html#ixzz1jDcSsglc


230 posted on 01/11/2012 9:43:55 PM PST by smoothsailing (www.FrankWuterich.com)
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...Dela Cruz volunteered on the stand that he failed a polygraph, he’s not very bright.

Either that or he's smarter than he seems. I don't know if witnesses can be "prepped" for testimony by the respective camps that plan to call them to the stand, but I can hardly think of a better way for Dela Cruz to sabotage the government's case than by casually mentioning that he flunked a lie detector test.

231 posted on 01/11/2012 9:46:40 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

That’s a valid point, Lancey that never crossed my mind.


232 posted on 01/12/2012 8:25:33 AM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: smoothsailing

Good for Salinas, that’s powerful evidence.


233 posted on 01/12/2012 8:30:34 AM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; smoothsailing

Salinas was on the stand this morning again. Not sure if they’ve gotten to Justin yet or not.


234 posted on 01/12/2012 12:34:22 PM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover; smoothsailing

Thanks, Red. Anxious to see what else Salinas said and also Justin’s testimony.


235 posted on 01/12/2012 12:58:18 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; RedRover

This is worth reading...

http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/18952-Understanding-The-Wuterich-Haditha-Court-Martial.html


236 posted on 01/12/2012 1:34:16 PM PST by smoothsailing (www.FrankWuterich.com)
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To: smoothsailing; RedRover

Thanks, Smooth. Excellent piece, Kesler knows what he’s talking about.


237 posted on 01/12/2012 1:49:57 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; Girlene; All
Sergeant [Dela Cruz] Admits Repeatedly Lying to Investigators in Exchange for Testimony
238 posted on 01/12/2012 2:10:47 PM PST by smoothsailing (www.FrankWuterich.com)
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To: smoothsailing; jazusamo

How could I tell from the headline that wasn’t a New York Times story?


239 posted on 01/12/2012 3:58:03 PM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover; smoothsailing

LOL! Looks like P & F don’t go for NY Times headlines.


240 posted on 01/12/2012 4:10:58 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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