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Breaking: Deal near on payroll tax cut extension?
Hot Air ^ | December 22,2011 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 12/22/2011 9:31:30 AM PST by Hojczyk

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To: Libloather

Obama using people props in the background. I dispise his way of using props!


21 posted on 12/22/2011 10:11:48 AM PST by JFC
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To: Hojczyk

AF One is warming up on the tarmac..Hawaii,the One is on his way


22 posted on 12/22/2011 10:14:13 AM PST by GQuagmire ('Don't Piss The Lady Off'...)
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Thanks sickoflibs, have a great day, all!
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23 posted on 12/22/2011 10:18:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: 11th_VA
The House needs hold tight for another few weeks ... let those unemployment checks run out in January, then Harry and the RATs from CA will be begging for a deal ...

Pizza lobbyists are really pressuring the Pubbies, or so I'm told.

24 posted on 12/22/2011 10:20:41 AM PST by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: Hojczyk

Herman, Ed Henry’s kicking my ass.


25 posted on 12/22/2011 10:31:17 AM PST by wordsofearnest (Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
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To: mrsmith
The bill isn't really paid for. This is really another stimulus bill using SS as a conduit to distribute the money. There is only one way that SS can be held harmless and that is to issue more IOUs in the form of non-market T-bills to the SSTF to make up for the lost revenue.

In reality, this is the same way Congress used the SS "surplus" by spending the money and putting IOUs in the SSTF, which represents an unfunded liability and is part of the $15 trillion national debt held under "Intragovernmental Holdings."

26 posted on 12/22/2011 10:33:04 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

The ‘outgo’ is equal to the ‘ingo’. New revenue is increased by the amount new spending is increased.
(Instead of other spending being decreased by the amount new spending is increased.)

Yes, the ‘SS tax’ facet of it is a scam as it has been for years.

“the same way Congress used the SS “surplus” by spending the money and putting IOUs in the SSTF, “
The hidden story of our fall.


27 posted on 12/22/2011 10:41:47 AM PST by mrsmith (Start electing a 'Tea Party' Majority Leader in 2012 now!)
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To: Hojczyk; All

We, the TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY, are not concerned about the damned MSM’s Court of Public Opinion, or “saving face” for any politician or political party. We are concerned about saving the Nation!

Way to snatch defeat from the jaws of Victory, Son-of-a-Mitch McConnell!!!!!!!!

Your stupid cave-in to “Bottleneck” Reid insures that small businesses will have to calculate 2/3 of a payroll tax check since payroll taxes are paid on a quarterly basis, and no Government forms now exist for that type of payment.

In other words, “Bottleneck” Reid outsmarted you AGAIN by getting you to agree to the most expensive, and most unworkable “deal” possible, and then conning you into accusing Boehner of a financial mess that YOU helped create.

Do you Mitch, even recognize that you are so gullible, that you need to get out of politics NOW, and get a real job? Maybe selling used cars?

Because you have now joined Senator Reid’s Socialist-Democrat Party, do you feel proud of the fact that you have sabotaged your former Republicans in the House of Representatives? From now on we should refer to you as “Turncoat” Mitch McConnell, the sorry Senator from Tennessee who can always be counted on to betray his former Republicans.

Since you, Mitch, refuse to accept responsibility for your destructive actions, it would be best if you would immediately resign as Minority Leader of the US Senate.

BTW, when you call upon a Republican to “give in,” we see you for the Socialist-Democrat coward that you really are.


28 posted on 12/22/2011 10:41:47 AM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Supreme One

Tax cuts that are spent on consumption do not, relatively, produce as much growth as tax cuts used for saving and investment do.

This is welfare, plain and simple.


31 posted on 12/22/2011 10:49:17 AM PST by mrsmith (Start electing a 'Tea Party' Majority Leader in 2012 now!)
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To: cotton1706

“How about we pay for a two month extension with a cut to a bureau or agency instead of screwing the people!”

The dems will never ever ever allow for real cuts. It would be suicide for them. If a real cut happened everyone would see that the world did not end and thus we could try more real cuts. Nope never going to happen.


32 posted on 12/22/2011 10:50:40 AM PST by HChampagne
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To: Hojczyk

That will go as well as the supercommittee on the deficit.


33 posted on 12/22/2011 11:00:56 AM PST by pfflier
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To: HChampagne

Oh, I know that. It always amazes me that so many repubicans in the senate don’t stand up and say, “are you insane?? We’re not funding anything with any new fees or taxes” But they just roll over so there can be a bipartisan compromise. They love bipartisanship, but only in the direction of slavery, never liberty.


34 posted on 12/22/2011 11:07:06 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: sickoflibs
Now with the Senate passing a ‘bi-partisian’ bill

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't a few Dems in the House vote for the 1 year bill? Why is the Senate bill the only bi-partisan one?

(purely rhetorical question mind you - I do understand that the Dems and LSM have taken the idea of "living history" to its greatest extreme - they not only seek to revise what happened in the past, they revise it WHILE it's happening!)

35 posted on 12/22/2011 11:21:01 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (Disgusted with it all.)
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To: sickoflibs

“If nothing else House Republicans should a demand a fix to the part of the bill that causes the tax collection problems in two months or they will be helping Obama lay yet ANOTHER trap for themselves. “

In essence the Republicans do not have the leadership and PR skills to fight Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Given the propensity to cave on critical issues, the election of a Republican House in 2010 is not really putting the brakes on the Obama socialist agenda. Nor are the House Republicans capable of using the Constitutional powers specific to the House to slow the rate of spending. Unfortunately Boehner has even agreed to keep Obamacare and its implementation cost off the table in negotiating spending. One has to ask if the election of a Republican Senate in 2012 will matter, particularly with McConnell in charge.


36 posted on 12/22/2011 11:30:00 AM PST by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: Soul of the South; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...
RE :”In essence the Republicans do not have the leadership and PR skills to fight Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Given the propensity to cave on critical issues, the election of a Republican House in 2010 is not really putting the brakes on the Obama socialist agenda. .....
One has to ask if the election of a Republican Senate in 2012 will matter, particularly with McConnell in charge

Not only have they not reversed Obama’s policies(they only have control of one house after all), but more importantly they have not helped make Obama and his policies MORE unpopular so they can be reversed in the future next year or after the election. They (Republicans in congress) just allowed Obama to transfer blame for the economy (in voters eyes) from Bush to them (Republicans) with himself briefly getting some of the blame last year. And with this Obama can resume calling for 'A tax increase on the rich to pay for an extension of the middle class tax cut' in two months again.

In conclusion they got partial power with no effective plan for using it. Surprised?? I am not but I am very unhappy about it.

38 posted on 12/22/2011 1:25:29 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Hojczyk

If Boehner is as smart/astute as he should be he will publicize any such give-in very widely to expose any probable Democrat flip-flopping.


39 posted on 12/22/2011 2:11:51 PM PST by noinfringers2
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