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Palestinians protest Israel's mosque bill
Arab News ^ | Dec 18, 2011 | MOHAMMED MAR’I

Posted on 12/20/2011 10:52:14 AM PST by americanophile

RAMALLAH, West Bank: Thousands of Arab Palestinians took to the streets in Israel to protest a mosque bill that will ban muezzins from using loudspeakers to call the faithful to prayers.

Sami Abu Shihadeh, the Arab member of Yaffa (Jaffa) municipal council, said the residents held the protests in his city and Umm Al-Fahem, Shafa’amr, Baqah Al-Gharbiyeh, Tarsheeha, Al-Taybeh, Nazareth, Negev and Al-Teireh against the bill, proposed by Knesset member Anastasia Michaeli of rightist Yisrael Beiteinu party.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu plans to bring the bill to a vote by his Cabinet on Sunday after he failed to muster enough support to pass it at a session last week. Explaining his backing for the bill, Netanyahu said there was “no need to be more liberal than Europe,” in an apparent reference to the 2010 Swiss law that forbids mosques from having minarets.

If approved, the new law would ban loudspeakers from all mosques in Israel.

(Excerpt) Read more at arabnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: calltoprayer; loudspeaker; mosque; muezzin; netanyahu
Good!
1 posted on 12/20/2011 10:52:23 AM PST by americanophile
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To: americanophile

law would ban loudspeakers from all mosques

let them all get pagers...


2 posted on 12/20/2011 10:56:06 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: americanophile

Does the bill apply only to Mosques or to Synagogues too? Not that I’ve ever heard of a speaker on a Synagogue but the bill should apply equally.


3 posted on 12/20/2011 10:58:56 AM PST by circlecity
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To: tet68

lol!


4 posted on 12/20/2011 10:59:07 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: circlecity
Why? The Muslims pray five times a day, so it's a deliberate nonstop cacophony meant to drown out everything else. Israel is a Jewish state that allows for freedom of worship, but it need not abide the nonstop electronically-enhanced conquest of its public space.
5 posted on 12/20/2011 11:01:48 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: tet68
let them all get pagers...

Funny! Does Islam have something against time keeping? Like a watch?
6 posted on 12/20/2011 11:03:19 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: americanophile
the new law would ban loudspeakers from all mosques in Israel.

Wow! That would be great. Those things are incredibly annoying.

ML/NJ

7 posted on 12/20/2011 11:05:05 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: circlecity

Not all religions are created equal.

Besides, loud speakers are a political protest cock blocking mean used by mobs.


8 posted on 12/20/2011 11:06:13 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: americanophile
"The Muslims pray five times a day, so it's a deliberate nonstop cacophony meant to drown out everything else. Israel is a Jewish state that allows for freedom of worship, but it need not abide the nonstop electronically-enhanced conquest of its public space."

I agree essentially, but the rule should still work both ways to be fair and non biased.

9 posted on 12/20/2011 11:06:20 AM PST by circlecity
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To: americanophile

During my time in Iraq, everyone knew that the mosques were pep rallies for the enemy. They’d come out of the services fired up by the hate speech of the imams, ready to commit jihad.

It gave rise to the saying, “When the yodeling stops, the bomb drops.”


10 posted on 12/20/2011 11:08:16 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: JudgemAll
"Not all religions are created equal."

Of course. There's Christianity and a bunch of false religions.

11 posted on 12/20/2011 11:09:29 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity
Does the bill apply only to Mosques or to Synagogues too? Not that I’ve ever heard of a speaker on a Synagogue but the bill should apply equally.

No, Jews don't go for that, or for converting non-Jews by the sword.

12 posted on 12/20/2011 11:10:55 AM PST by montag813
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To: tet68
"let them all get pagers..."

I agree! In every news report about Arabs rioting or denouncing Israel and the USA in the streets, they all have cell phones. Make them text the "call to prayer" or just phone it in. Or better yet, teach them how to tell time on a watch or clock.

13 posted on 12/20/2011 11:11:41 AM PST by StormEye
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To: tet68
""""let them all get pagers...""""

You are a problem solver. That's cool. Maybe they could TEXT that gibberish.

14 posted on 12/20/2011 11:13:13 AM PST by annieokie
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To: circlecity
I think it's okay to be biased with those who don't recognize your right to exist, but neither synagogues nor churches have comparable practices, so it would be irrelevant.
15 posted on 12/20/2011 11:13:22 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile

fairness is always relevant.


16 posted on 12/20/2011 11:16:03 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Right...

17 posted on 12/20/2011 11:18:02 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile

looks like two sides of the same coin


18 posted on 12/20/2011 11:20:56 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Wow. Not at all. One side is committed to the extermination of the other. There is no moral equivalency at all.


19 posted on 12/20/2011 11:23:29 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile
They don't like it? They should leave: They Must Go
20 posted on 12/20/2011 11:23:29 AM PST by Stepan12
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To: americanophile

guess we’ll have to agree to disagree


21 posted on 12/20/2011 11:25:11 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity
Does the bill apply only to Mosques or to Synagogues too? ...the bill should apply equally.

SKA-REW that!

Israel is the Jewish homeland, "The Promised Land". They don't need any filthy murdering moslems and their hideous, raucous mosks.

What do you think this is...the USA?

22 posted on 12/20/2011 11:25:59 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: circlecity
That's about the only thing one can agree on with regards to the Middle East.
23 posted on 12/20/2011 11:29:21 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: circlecity
fairness is always relevant.

I'm glad you think so. Now let's hear your thoughts on the fact that churches are banned in many Muslim countries (including Saudi Arabia). Not just a call to prayer... the whole other religion. Would you consider that "fair"?

24 posted on 12/20/2011 11:33:23 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
"I'm glad you think so. Now let's hear your thoughts on the fact that churches are banned in many Muslim countries (including Saudi Arabia). Not just a call to prayer... the whole other religion. Would you consider that "fair"?"

Not at all. So if Muslim countries are unfair to their citizens then that somehow gives Israel the right to be unfair its citizens? That's some kind of logic.

25 posted on 12/20/2011 11:36:20 AM PST by circlecity
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To: americanophile
One of the comments on the article said:

This article is in error. The bill relates only to the first and last calls to prayer, which can be as early as 4:30 in the morning and 10:00 in the evening during the summer.

During the day, when the ambient noise is greater, the calls to prayer aren't a problem. In recent months, a number of mosques upgraded their sound systems to a level that the noisiest discotheques would be proud of, and play the call to prayer at full volume.


26 posted on 12/20/2011 11:47:37 AM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: circlecity

Holding others to a higher standard for the sake of principle(at least that’s supposedly the reason, there is more than enough reason to suspect otherwise) is what has gotten the West to its pretty pass in dealing with Islam, because Islam doesn’t play by the same rules. Just as they use American democratic means to chip away at democracy.

I daresay the Israelis, having much longer experience of this than we have, understand that their survival is more important than upholding this particular abstract principle, because it’s suicidal when only one side does it.

Should the Israelis commit suicide to satisy the liberal West’s demand for “fairness”?


27 posted on 12/20/2011 11:49:56 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: mrsmel
"Should the Israelis commit suicide to satisy the liberal West’s demand for “fairness”?"

And applying noise laws fairly is committing suicide? That's some kind of logic.

28 posted on 12/20/2011 11:52:32 AM PST by circlecity
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To: mrsmel
"I daresay the Israelis, having much longer experience of this than we have,"

America was fighting muslims 150 years before modern Israel existed.

29 posted on 12/20/2011 11:54:14 AM PST by circlecity
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To: americanophile
Israeli President Shimon Peres has said he is ashamed of the bill and others like it. “This is simply a march of folly … I am personally ashamed there are attempts being made to pass such laws.” Israel doesn’t “have to raise the ire of all the Muslims in the Arab world against us”, Peres said.

In the early 1930's with Hitler seeking election in the waning days of the Weimar Republic, there existed a now nearly forgotten, obscure political entity known as "Jews for Hitler" (I kid you not.).

"Jews for Hitler" afflicted with the same self-deluding left-wing liberal mindset we have today as practiced by the DemoRats, supported the Nazi political plank in so far as it related to the national, economic, demographic policies the Nazis vowed to implement, considering the genocidal vehemence against Jews as mere political boisterousness. Well, we all know how that turned out.

Regarding the unbridled revulsion I have towards the mentally-deranged Shimon Peres and those of his eternally-damned ilk, I've always felt them to be the political heirs of those like "Jews for Hitler", who in embracing their enemy only serve to expedite their very own demise, self-destruction.

30 posted on 12/20/2011 11:59:40 AM PST by lbryce (BHO:The bastard offspring of Satan and Medusa.)
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To: americanophile
Israeli President Shimon Peres has said he is ashamed of the bill and others like it. “This is simply a march of folly … I am personally ashamed there are attempts being made to pass such laws.” Israel doesn’t “have to raise the ire of all the Muslims in the Arab world against us”, Peres said.

In the early 1930's with Hitler seeking election in the waning days of the Weimar Republic, there existed a now nearly forgotten, obscure political entity known as "Jews for Hitler" (I kid you not.).

"Jews for Hitler" afflicted with the same self-deluding left-wing liberal mindset we have today as practiced by the DemoRats, supported the Nazi political plank in so far as it related to the national, economic, demographic policies the Nazis vowed to implement, considering the genocidal vehemence against Jews as mere political boisterousness. Well, we all know how that turned out.

Regarding the unbridled revulsion I have towards the mentally-deranged Shimon Peres and those of his eternally-damned ilk, I've always felt them to be the political heirs of those like "Jews for Hitler", who in embracing their enemy only serve to expedite their very own demise, self-destruction.

31 posted on 12/20/2011 12:00:05 PM PST by lbryce (BHO:The bastard offspring of Satan and Medusa.)
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To: circlecity

By the way, Hillary is buying into the lie of “women for peace” as negociators. A communist loophole to disarm women while making them believe they are worth it amongst democrates.

She is obviously a hater of women much as islamics who call themselves pro-christianity as they disarm them and call them erroneous.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/19/us-usa-obama-women-idUSTRE7BI1N820111219


32 posted on 12/20/2011 12:00:28 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: circlecity

i’m speaking of the principle of fairness, as you are. How far should they go with this? They seem to believe it’s in their best interests to be “unfair”, and I think they’re the best judges of that.


33 posted on 12/20/2011 12:06:08 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: circlecity

Yes, I know about Tripoli, enslavement, etc. It’s not the same thing that the Israelis are dealing with, since their resumption as a nation.


34 posted on 12/20/2011 12:07:49 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: mrsmel
"They seem to believe it’s in their best interests to be “unfair”,"

As do the muzzies. Like I said, two sides of the same coin.

35 posted on 12/20/2011 12:08:16 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Hardly. The Israelis aren’t sending suicide bombers , including the mentally retarded, amongst civilians in order to kill them. They’re not getting the world’s support (including a sickening Nobel “Peace” prize for a terrorist murderer) as they promise repeatedly to annihilate a whole people. The Israelis aren’t sending men to American flight schols where they don’t need to learn to land a plane because they intend to kill themselves and every innocent passenger and 3000 innocent civilians.

Are you for real?


36 posted on 12/20/2011 12:14:59 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: mrsmel

Real as a heart attack.


37 posted on 12/20/2011 12:16:08 PM PST by circlecity
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To: americanophile

Clowns should be thankful the Isrealis don’t blow the mosques up.


38 posted on 12/20/2011 12:16:57 PM PST by Levante
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To: circlecity
You really see moral equivalency between what the Israelis and the Muslims are doing? You truly equate the power of one tiny nation surrounded by an ocean of those fanatically desiring their destruction, no less so than Hitler and his Nazis did?
39 posted on 12/20/2011 12:21:04 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: Old Sarge

lol lol lol


40 posted on 12/20/2011 12:50:57 PM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: ZX12R

Muzzies can get prayer call apps for their Iphones and it even GPS-points toward Mecca.

Mosque loudspeakers are purely aggressive in nature, just like minarets are for gazing at conquered territory.


41 posted on 12/20/2011 12:54:11 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: ZX12R

Yes.
Had a Muslim co-worker. Visited his house once while working on a project with him. He had a gold clock-type device that would sound the call to prayer at the appropriate hours.


42 posted on 12/20/2011 1:02:40 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: circlecity
I was going to say "if you spend so much time staying in the middle of the road, eventually you'll get run over".

But I see here that you have no problem understanding that some things are black and white, that some things are wrong and that some are right.

i.e., you understand that "normalizing" "alternative" lifestyles in a nation based on Judeo-Christian principles is wrong, yet you have no problem with using your BULLSQUAT FAKE ARUGUMENT OF "FAIRNESS to compel the world's only JEWISH NATION to tolerate the promoting of the cancer of jihad which has, for it's entire 1300+years of existence made NO BONES about taking your "tahhhlerance" and using it to cut off the heads of its enemies, and, eventually the heads of those useless infidels, no matter if they are total libs or conservatives posing/whining as "FAIR" when it suits them.

So now you can contemplate your head coming off (is your collar tight now?) right after the heads of the Jews who you are so convinced should allow muslims to continue propagating their BS fake religion.

Do us all a favor.

Go be "fair and balanced on some Lavender Agenda thread.

43 posted on 12/20/2011 1:13:03 PM PST by Yehuda (Expel communists and jihadis... from the planet.)
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"for it's entire 1300+years of existence made NO BONES about taking your "tahhhlerance" and using it to cut off the heads of its enemies, and, eventually the heads of those useless infidels."

Wow, sounds just like what happened to the Cannanites.

"Do us all a favor. Go be "fair and balanced on some Lavender Agenda thread."

No, I think I'll stay here. You don't like it? - too bad.

44 posted on 12/20/2011 1:53:52 PM PST by circlecity
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To: Levante

But they should.


45 posted on 12/20/2011 1:59:41 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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CC: "Wow, sounds just like what happened to the Cannanites."

So you have sympathy for and admire the Canaanites, who did child sacrifice by burning their kids alive?

HOW SO PALESTINIAN-LIKE, AND HOW TOLERANT OF YOU.

CC: "America was fighting muslims 150 years before modern Israel existed."

Got a bee up your butt over Jews today?

Jews (and hindus and buddhists) were fighting muslims ONE THOUSAND YEARS before America existed.

What's you major malfunction? ARE YOU A JIHADI? Or are you simply one of those stupid morons who blames Israel for 9/11?

YOU STUPID FREAKING JACKASS, why don't you apply the "balanced" standards you set for Israel, to US HERE IN AMERICA.

Why don't you demand A MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO? How about insisting America give back the SW to MEXICO?

ARE THOSE YOUR POSITIONS?

Guess what, MORON, There's a mosque on top of the JEWISH TEMPLE MOUNT. and Israel has already given back NINETY TWO PERCENT OF IT"S LAND TO JIHADI SCUM.

So to be fair and balanced, why don't you insist America do likewise.

Oh, you won't?

Why not?

BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HEMORRHOID FOR JEWS?

46 posted on 12/20/2011 2:14:28 PM PST by Yehuda (Expel communists and jihadis & STUPID FAKE FREEPERS... from the planet.)
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To: Yehuda
>Jews (and hindus and buddhists) AND CHRISTIANS were fighting muslims ONE THOUSAND YEARS before America existed.

/sigh... how many more of these jihadi-apologist jackasses are infecting FR?

47 posted on 12/20/2011 2:24:03 PM PST by Yehuda (Expel communists and jihadis & STUPID FAKE FREEPERS... from the planet.)
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"So you have sympathy for and admire the Canaanites, who did child sacrifice by burning their kids alive?"

Israel did the same thing- sacrificed their children in the fire to the god Molech. You have sympathy for it?

"Jews (and hindus and buddhists) were fighting muslims ONE THOUSAND YEARS before America existed."

So were Christians, what's your point? You originally said Israel had more experience and I pointed out America had fought muslims earlier. So you change the subject? Got a bee up you butt over logic today?

"So to be fair and balanced, why don't you insist America do likewise."

Because it's not America's problem, punk. Israel belongs to whoever is strong enough to take and hold it. That's how it's been for at least 3000 years. Whoever that happens to be at any given time really doesn't matter.

48 posted on 12/21/2011 3:10:57 AM PST by circlecity
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"/sigh... how many more of these jihadi-apologist jackasses are infecting FR?"

Do you always whine like an old woman all the time?

49 posted on 12/21/2011 3:12:35 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

“So were Christians, what’s your point? “

That you can’t read? I added that 20 hours before you resquatted with your stupid juvenile commenting.

Whats YOUR point. To show that you are illiterate?

“You originally said Israel had more experience and I pointed out America had fought muslims earlier.”

No that was another freeper you were commenting too. And what was your point about America fighting Islam, SINCE YOU ENJOY KISSING ISLAM’S BEHIND, WITH FERVOR.

“”So to be fair and balanced, why don’t you insist America do likewise.” Because it’s not America’s problem, punk. Israel belongs to whoever is strong enough to take and hold it.””

Really, SCHMUCK? America’s INSECURE BORDERS AND OUR *SS-LICKING TO JIHAD IS NOT AMERICA’S PROBLEM?

Whats the matter, have a LOGIC FAILURE IN YOUR PANTS?

“That’s how it’s been for at least 3000 years. Whoever that happens to be at any given time really doesn’t matter.”

If it doesn’t matter, why are you so vociferous demanding the Jews take it up the rear from the muslims LIKE YOU LIKE TO DO.

YOU came on this thread about Israel finally showing some brass and telling the jihadi scum to tone it down, and YOU ripped into the Jews telling them how to be “FAIR”.

Freaking jihadi FAIRy. How do you type so much lying on your back in the tent?


50 posted on 12/21/2011 5:53:52 PM PST by Yehuda (Expel communists and jihadis & STUPID FAKE FREEPERS... from the planet.)
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