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Absolution for Newt - How evangelicals are finding a way to support Gingrich.
Slate ^ | 12/2/2011 | David Weigel

Posted on 12/02/2011 5:15:03 PM PST by TBBT

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To: Mariner

Yes. No one is without sin, but this is beyond sinning. This is bathing in it. Wallowing in it. USING religion for his own purposes to compound his sins. gingrich is a sociopath. He sold his soul CHEAPLY for money and sex. Now he wants power. Support him at your peril.


21 posted on 12/02/2011 6:22:43 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: SoConPubbie

Just like obama, gingrich considers HIMSELF the smartest man in the world. He thinks he knows what is best for you and me and everybody else. He does not apologize for his mistakes. He ‘explains’ them and tells YOU to get over it. NO ONE who thinks that way should have the power obama has right now. Frying pan, meet fire.


22 posted on 12/02/2011 6:29:07 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I don’t live in the Bible. I live in the United States of America, ONE Country UNDER G-D. I would like to keep it that way.


23 posted on 12/02/2011 6:32:43 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine
I don’t live in the Bible. I live in the United States of America, ONE Country UNDER G-D. I would like to keep it that way.

Whatever. You were the one that brought up morality and then you talk about "one nation under God". Strange that you seem to blow off the Bible. You seem confused to me.

24 posted on 12/02/2011 6:56:58 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: SoConPubbie
~SIGH~ Yeah, I know. Look, I know Newt's got baggage and he has a long history in DC but in this case, IMHO, that's a net plus as to how this might play out. He's a really good politician and so perhaps I'm becoming jaded and cynical in my old age, but it seems to me that you just cannot get around the NWO system that is in place handicapping the races. The Council on Foreign Relations keeps this process locked up. Newt's an old time member there and for that reason alone, in the past I'd never consider him as a possibility on the #1 or #2 spot. Now I would consider him a viable candidate for either. I'd pay money to watch him eviscerate Obozo in a debate.

Remember something: Ronald Reagan was not a member of CFR. He was not a globalist. But he understood the reality of the system and while he did not dance to the tunes, he still knew all of the musicians! He knew that in order to get elected and push his agenda for the short term, he'd have to toe the CFR line for their long term agenda. So he chose as his own veep a former Director of CFR and a Bonesman to boot! He staffed his entire administration in every single department from the top down with CFR members stacked six deep! Face it, you and I aren't going to stop this. "So it is written, so it shall be done." This process is going forward on a timetable finalized and controlled by the Lord. Period.

The wiley coyotes that inhabit the Hill are just too implacable and deadly for a political neophyte. Hate to say it but those old dogs won't try that crap with Newt, because he is arguably the deadliest old Lobo of the bunch. Having been Speaker of the House virtually guarantees he won't fall into anybody's traps political or otherwise and that's what we need. His debate performances have been nothing short of brilliant (Bachmann, too) but more and more Newt just looks Presidential. In avoiding the obvious setups to rag on his fellow candidates as the MSM has set them up time and again, Newt comes off as the only "adult" in the room.

We freepers are waaaaay more politically astute than the average ignorant voter from any party. Yeah, I won't pretend that his past globalist associations don't bother me, but his positioning isn't about HIM or us or liberals, it's about God's plan for the planet and I'm gonna track with that. If Newt stays on top, I'm going with him all the way. It sure can't be any worse than it is now. Unless Obozo wins a second term.

25 posted on 12/02/2011 7:10:06 PM PST by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: ExSoldier

Sir. Do you believe in your heart of hearts that a pen in this man’s hand will be ANY different than the same pen obama wields now? newt gingich is self-destructive, petty, and an ego-maniac. Do you want HIS destructiveness laid on the entire country?


26 posted on 12/02/2011 7:34:26 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Let me ask you something. WHY do you think Solomon’s Temple was destroyed? Why do you think the Land of Israel was handed over to its enemies?
If You cannot see the handwriting on the wall, I would say that YOU are the one who is confused.

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” ~ George Santayana


27 posted on 12/02/2011 7:45:30 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Mariner
If Larry Sandusky asked the Lord for forgiveness and said he was redeemed, would let him go to the movies with your 10 year old son?
28 posted on 12/02/2011 8:07:39 PM PST by not2worry
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To: MestaMachine
Do you believe in your heart of hearts that a pen in this man’s hand will be ANY different than the same pen obama wields now?

In my heart of hearts, yes I do believe he will be like a crisp spring morning over the failure that currently sits in the Oval.

29 posted on 12/02/2011 9:10:26 PM PST by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: ExSoldier
Remember something: Ronald Reagan was not a member of CFR. He was not a globalist. But he understood the reality of the system and while he did not dance to the tunes, he still knew all of the musicians! He knew that in order to get elected and push his agenda for the short term, he'd have to toe the CFR line for their long term agenda. So he chose as his own veep a former Director of CFR and a Bonesman to boot! He staffed his entire administration in every single department from the top down with CFR members stacked six deep! Face it, you and I aren't going to stop this. "So it is written, so it shall be done." This process is going forward on a timetable finalized and controlled by the Lord. Period.

You won't mind if I disagree with your "Phropecy", ok?

I hope you won't mind either, if I continue to fight for my principles, in large part, given to my by the Lord, principles that Newt has not been faithful to.

And finally, I hope you don't mind if I don't compromise those same principles given to my by my Lord to vote for someone who has proven over and over that he cannot be trusted to do the right thing where this country is concerned but is more concerned with his own political future.
30 posted on 12/02/2011 9:50:58 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: not2worry
"If Larry Sandusky asked the Lord for forgiveness and said he was redeemed, would let him go to the movies with your 10 year old son? "

If Newt's sins are the same as Sandusky's...so are yours.

I believe it's demonstrably idiotic to compare the two men...but, hey! There you are in front of God an everbody doing just that.

31 posted on 12/02/2011 11:16:49 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SoConPubbie
What was the old saying? Oh yeah: I may disagree with everything you have to say, but I shall defend to the death, your right to say so! That's the great thing about FR, and our nation -- we don't have to agree on stuff.
32 posted on 12/03/2011 1:08:24 AM PST by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: SoConPubbie
What was the old saying? Oh yeah: I may disagree with everything you have to say, but I shall defend to the death, your right to say so! That's the great thing about FR, and our nation -- we don't have to agree on stuff.
33 posted on 12/03/2011 1:08:38 AM PST by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: MestaMachine
Ignoring the evils of men is how we arrived at these problems in the first place. Continue to ignore them and not only will the problems continue, they will get worse. That is not forgiveness, it is contributory hypocrisy.

What you say is true, and I'll bet there were many people who felt the same way in principle regarding alcohol right before Prohibition, yet, history remembers them as the moral architects for a greater evil that befell the Nation.

This race is more about degrees and perspective as it is anything else, and we can not lose focus of what our goal is...to remove Barack Obama. That means we're going to have to make some hard decisions, like it or not.

I think much of what is going in this forum is merely blowing off steam, and people will come to their senses at the proper time, at least I hope so.

34 posted on 12/03/2011 1:33:19 AM PST by csense
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To: TBBT

It’s not the flip. It’s the flip flop.


35 posted on 12/03/2011 1:37:25 AM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: TBBT

All my baptist and catholic kin in cotton dixie have drifted to Snewt from Palin...Michelle...Rick...and Herman....everyone but one lib in San Fran....a dmv judge


36 posted on 12/03/2011 1:44:29 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: starlifter

We don’t elect pastors goober

We aint cardinals

You interview and hire preachers in the protestant south...not sure how yankees do it


37 posted on 12/03/2011 1:49:01 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: Beelzebubba

38 posted on 12/03/2011 4:02:19 AM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: Mariner

My Bible doesn’t have a Book where God has degrees of sin and forgiveness. Sin is sin. Forgiveness is forgiveness.

It’s amazing to me how folks can twist God to serve their purpose, not His.


39 posted on 12/03/2011 5:43:24 AM PST by not2worry
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To: TBBT
Except for Ron Paul, the whole field disgusts me.
Gingrich has ALWAYS been a self-serving, egotistical
elitist, globalist phony.
He has taken both sides of every issue,
and if, God forbid, he were the nominee,
the rats will have a field day with the two-faced hypocrite.
40 posted on 12/03/2011 8:18:49 AM PST by trickyricky
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