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Facts are STUBBORN Things, Knowledge of the Connection Between Agent Terry's Death and Fast and...
U.S. Senate ^ | November 28, 2011 | Senator Grassley

Posted on 11/29/2011 10:56:35 AM PST by neverdem



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For Immediate Release
November 28, 2011


Facts are STUBBORN Things, Knowledge of the Connection Between Agent Terry's Death and Fast and Furious

Setting the Record Straight on the Justice Department Oversight Hearing

“Facts are STUBBORN Things”
“…and whatever our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams, December 1770

 

Senate Judiciary Committee Oversight Hearings with Secretary Janet Napolitano, October 19, 2011, and Attorney General Eric Holder, November 8, 2011


Knowledge of Connection Between Agent Terry’s Death and Fast and Furious

•    Senator Grassley: “Have you had any communications with Mr. Burke about Operation Fast and Furious?”

Secretary Napolitano: “When Agent Terry was killed, it was December 14th, I went to Arizona a few days thereafter to meet with the FBI agents and the assistant U.S. attorneys who were actually going to look for the shooters.  At that time, nobody had done the forensics on the guns and Fast and Furious was not mentioned.  But I wanted to be sure that those responsible for his death were brought to justice, and that every DOJ resource was being brought to bear on that topic.  So I did have conversations in – it would have December of ’09 – about the murder of Agent Terry.  But at that point in time, there – nobody knew about Fast and Furious.”

•    Senator Grassley: “When we met that day [on January 31, 2011], did you know that the guns connected to an ATF operation had been found at the Terry murder scene?”

Attorney General Holder: “I did not.”

•    Senator Grassley: “Documents produced by the department suggest that your deputy chief of staff spoke with U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke about Fast and Furious, shortly after Agent Terry’s death.  Did Mr. Wilkinson say anything to you about the connection between Agent Terry’s death and the ATF operation?”

Attorney General Holder: “No, he did not.  The conversations that they had were about a variety of things.  I’ve looked at the emails.  Now the possibility of me coming out to at some point talk about being engaged in a press conference, other matters, but there was no discussion between them of the tactics that are of concern with regard to Fast and Furious and as a result of that, Mr. Wilkinson did not share information with me about his contacts with former U.S. Attorney, Burke.”

FACT
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The Attorney General’s Deputy Chief of Staff Monty Wilkinson sent an email to U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke at 11:18 am on December 14, 2010, the day before Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s death.  The email had only a subject line: “You available for a call today?”  On December 15 at 2:14 am, Burke responded: “Sorry for going dark on you.  I was at Navajo and Hopi all day and coverage was weak at best.  I did get your vm.  We have a major gun trafficking case connected to Mexico we are taking down in January.  20+ defendants.  Will call today to explain in detail.”  Documents show that notice of Agent Terry’s death was emailed to Burke an hour later, at 3:31 am.

According to emails produced by the Justice Department, Nathan Gray, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Phoenix Field Division, was at the press conference held that day to announce the death of Agent Terry, and was telling individuals there about the connection to Operation Fast and Furious.  Thus, by the time Secretary Napolitano visited Arizona a few days later, the FBI and the U.S. Attorney’s Office were clearly aware of the connection.

The emails that have been produced by the Justice Department so far are insufficient to draw any conclusions about what Wilkinson and Burke may have discussed over the phone on December 15.  Whether any follow-up conversation between them included the fact that Fast and Furious guns were found at the scene will remain unknown until Burke completes his testimony, which was interrupted on an earlier date, and Wilkinson testifies for the first time.  Unfortunately, the Justice Department has to this point refused to make other witnesses with first-hand knowledge available for transcribed interviews.

It is clear, however, that multiple officials from multiple agencies knew almost immediately of the connection between Fast and Furious and Agent Terry’s death, including Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler.  The Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security have failed to adequately explain why Attorney General Holder and Secretary Napolitano allegedly remained ignorant of that connection.

Documents supporting the FACTS
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© 2008, Senator Grassley



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; clinton; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryclinton; holder; ice; obama; statedept

1 posted on 11/29/2011 10:56:43 AM PST by neverdem
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FYI ping


2 posted on 11/29/2011 11:21:08 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: neverdem

Because the operation was never designed to “trace or track” anything, Eric and Janet gave strict instructions to ensure deniability.

IF the operation were intended to “track” anything, the Mexican gov’t and Homeland Security would have been involved as a foundational element and not some “oh by the way” notification.


3 posted on 11/29/2011 11:50:34 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: G Larry
It's time for Grassly and Issa to “call their bluff” and insist that these co conspirators be indicted for obstruction of justice, lies while under oath, conspiracy, and a dozen other charges.

I've said from the beginning, if Grassly and Issa are serious about making sure this never happens again then they had better be prepared to send those responsible to prison. Holder and everyone involved at the BATFE are now alleged criminals and it's time to move the process forward with formal indictments and prosecutions.

If we do not prosecute Holder and those at and BATFE for these crimes it will not only completely undermine the rule of law but it will GAURANTEE this type of abuse of power will happen again and on an even larger scale.

4 posted on 11/29/2011 12:19:58 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist
...GAURANTEE this type of abuse of power will happen again

...Rest assured your LEADERS(formerly known as representatives) are talking steps to make sure these things are being corrected. sarc /

...besides the money is already in an overseas account. Sleep tight!

5 posted on 11/29/2011 1:04:17 PM PST by gargoyle ( Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice... Barry Goldwater.)
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To: precisionshootist
...GAURANTEE this type of abuse of power will happen again

...Rest assured your LEADERS(formerly known as representatives) are talking steps to make sure these things are being corrected. sarc /

...besides the money is already in an overseas account. Sleep tight!

6 posted on 11/29/2011 1:04:17 PM PST by gargoyle ( Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice... Barry Goldwater.)
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To: neverdem

The thread has been pulled. The unraveling has begun.


7 posted on 11/29/2011 2:01:25 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
Thread Pulled.

Reason: the unraveling has begun.

Admin Moderator

8 posted on 11/29/2011 5:00:09 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
LOL I didn't have a thought about how that sounded until a few minutes after I posted. That's what happens when you take a couple of days away and stuff your face with rich food.

In case it's still not clear to anyone I meant the thread of deceit Zer0 and company have woven around themselves.

9 posted on 11/29/2011 5:22:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Glad to spread some amusement around.


10 posted on 11/29/2011 5:39:37 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: precisionshootist
time will tell if Issa and Grassley are serious or if they are also part of the problem...

*if* they have all the documents and testimony, then time is on their side to sell the corrupt bastards all the hangin rope they want...

I believe both of em knew that when this thing began, that if they are unsuccessful that theyll be politically ruined at best, or grievous things will happen to themselves and families at worst...they do realize they are dealin with mafioso mindset murderers and old fashioned thug/cowards...

at least i pray they do, and really are 'holdin the cards'...

11 posted on 11/29/2011 8:25:53 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: MestaMachine

Thank you, have to read this one tomorrow.

Two teeth are driving me insane with pain....


12 posted on 11/29/2011 8:31:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: OneWingedShark

ROTFLOL!

Now that’s one I’ve never seen. Usually it’s “no thanks”, once I saw “you’re an idiot”.


13 posted on 11/29/2011 8:35:33 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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14 posted on 11/29/2011 10:36:07 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 11/30/2011 7:48:55 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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bts


16 posted on 12/02/2011 7:43:26 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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