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In New York, Mexicans Lag in Education
New York Times ^ | November 24, 2011 | KIRK SEMPLE

Posted on 11/25/2011 4:58:48 AM PST by reaganaut1

In the past two decades, the Mexican population in New York City has grown more than fivefold, with immigrants settling across the five boroughs. Many adults have demonstrated remarkable success at finding work, filling restaurant kitchens and construction sites, and opening hundreds of businesses.

But their children, in one crucial respect, have fared far differently.

About 41 percent of all Mexicans between ages 16 and 19 in the city have dropped out of school, according to census data.

No other major immigrant group has a dropout rate higher than 20 percent, and the overall rate for the city is less than 9 percent, the statistics show.

This crisis endures at the college level. Among Mexican immigrants 19 to 23 who do not have a college degree, only 6 percent are enrolled. That is a fraction of the rates among other major immigrant groups and the native-born population.

Moreover, these rates are significantly worse than those of the broader Mexican immigrant population in the United States.

The problem is especially unsettling because Mexicans are the fastest-growing major immigrant group in the city, officially numbering about 183,200, according to the Census Bureau, up from about 33,600 in 1990. Experts say the actual figure is far larger, given high levels of illegal immigration.

A small group of educators and advocates have begun various educational initiatives for Mexicans, and there is evidence of recent strides.

But the educators and advocates say that unless these efforts are sustained, and even intensified, the city may have a large Mexican underclass for generations.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; bellcurve; education; hispanics; illegals; mexicanamericans; nyc
A partial explanation for this is the Bell Curve. America should stop importing low-IQ immigrants.
1 posted on 11/25/2011 4:58:52 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

We don’t need not stinkin’ educacion.


2 posted on 11/25/2011 5:10:15 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: reaganaut1
In New York, Mexicans Lag in Education

Why are Mexicans even being considered in the numbers for education in NYC?

Shouldn't that a concern for Mexico?

3 posted on 11/25/2011 5:13:07 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: reaganaut1

I have been called all sorts of names for even mentioning that book on other blogs.

Denying the existence of genetic contributions to intelligence (or lack thereof) does not make them go away.

Maybe our teachers aren’t doing such a bad job, but there is an increasingly large pool of uneducatable children.

However, the Bell Curve does point out that Hispanics average a half-deviation higher intelligence scores than Blacks........


4 posted on 11/25/2011 5:31:16 AM PST by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: reaganaut1
My experience has been that many Mexican students (and other Hispanics) did not go to school regularly in their native countries. Their parents lack much education, and so do not provide much of a role model or motivation for their kids to do better.

These students are lacking many basic academic skills which handicaps them considerably, requiring a lot of ancillary services. They also lack the rudiments of classroom discipline and are often inattentive, disruptive, or fooling around, if they are attending at all. The one thing you can't seem to fix is a startling lack of ambition--they just smile as you return failed quizzes or hand out poor report cards.

This is really a shame. Most immigrants seem to want better for their children.

5 posted on 11/25/2011 5:37:32 AM PST by EinNYC
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I don't think the immigrants are necessarily genetically low-IQ. However, they are mostly peasants, and peasants do not think in abstract terms. IQ tests measure abstract terms.

Immigration issues aside, we need to get the Mexicans educated to the point the Irish became educated in the early 1900s. We aren't going to do that by patronizing the Mexicans.

6 posted on 11/25/2011 5:43:55 AM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: reaganaut1

English is at fault and racism. If everyone spoke Spanish and we had more open borders...we wouldn’t have this problem./s


7 posted on 11/25/2011 6:01:14 AM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: reaganaut1

Importing a new perpetual underclass is madness.


8 posted on 11/25/2011 6:08:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GAB-1955

We’re not just getting “average Mexicans.” We’re getting stunted, illiterate indio peasants. Hoping that they follow the model of the Irish is naive in the extreme.


9 posted on 11/25/2011 6:10:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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...the city may have a large Mexican underclass for generations...

A reliable voting bloc for liberal parasites.

10 posted on 11/25/2011 6:17:42 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: reaganaut1

Uh, why am I confused? What are Mexicans other than the Mexican Consul, his family, and his staff doing in New York?

And why are we not seeing stories about the educational level of Americans in Guadalajara?


11 posted on 11/25/2011 6:21:07 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: reaganaut1

The New York City public high schools, outside of a dozen or so elite and selective programs like Bronx Science, produce very little.

As a taxpayer I’m far happier for someone to drop out at 15 than to “graduate” at 18 without any measurable improvement in their ability to learn a trade, pass a respectably rigorous college class, or serve a initial enlistment in the military to an honorable discharge.


12 posted on 11/25/2011 6:21:41 AM PST by only1percent
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But WHY are students allowed to drop out before age 18???


13 posted on 11/25/2011 6:43:33 AM PST by floridavoter2
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To: PieterCasparzen

Can anyone spell assimilation?


14 posted on 11/25/2011 6:45:03 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: reaganaut1

I know, let’s give more tax dollars to the schools. That’s the ticket.


15 posted on 11/25/2011 8:17:58 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: GAB-1955

A % will not do well because the public school system sucks. How many Latinos in Catholic Schools do well? A large percent is my bet. The Latino community—being made up of Peasant stock promotes hard physical work intellectualism and office work—not all of it but a large percent. It takes time to wash Mexico out of them and get them to embrace our values—it will happen in time. Face it—we need them in this land. Americans have too few children to replace the workers who are retiring. The Latinos are really helping us all out. I do not blame them for the stupid PC foolishness and Multicultural fad we embraced or for using it to get ahead—just as Blacks did with Affirmative Action.


16 posted on 11/25/2011 8:52:51 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: reaganaut1

Most Mexicans are on welfare, but you will never see that headline.

http://cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011


17 posted on 11/25/2011 9:30:54 AM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Travis McGee

You’re exactly right. We’re importing poverty and illiterate, unskilled people like Mexicans breed like rabbits producing more illiterate, unskilled offspring. This is the beginning of the end of America. Great nations fall from within, seldom from without and this is how it begins.


18 posted on 11/25/2011 9:36:33 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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