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Mitt Romney still faces a trust deficit with GOP voters
The Los Angeles Times ^ | 2011-11-24 | Maeve Reston

Posted on 11/24/2011 10:05:44 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Southfield, Mich. — As other Republican candidates have stumbled their way toward the presidential primaries, Mitt Romney has put together what would seem to be all the elements of a winning campaign: an effective staff, a robust treasury and smooth, knowledgeable performances both in debates and on the trail.

But for months, the threshold of support for the former Massachusetts governor hasn't inched above a quarter of Republican voters in national polls. For many GOP voters in early primary states, hesitation about Romney comes back to one thing: their perception that he has routinely molded his views to suit the political mood, with ambition his overriding principle.

"He's not a person we could trust to lead our country," said Angela Cesar, a 41-year-old Republican from Ypsilanti, Mich., who said Romney had changed his position on too many issues.

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"The more I listen to him, the more he just kind of flip-flops and doesn't know where he stands on anything."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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1 posted on 11/24/2011 10:05:50 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 11/24/2011 10:06:24 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Yeah, just which Mitt Romney are you voting for if you vote for him? He hasn’t shown a lot of signs of converging on one policy, and it’s uncomfortably close to the next election.


3 posted on 11/24/2011 10:09:10 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
which Mitt Romney are you voting for if you vote for him

Actions speak louder than words.

4 posted on 11/24/2011 10:10:55 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385
Mitt Romney still faces a trust deficit with GOP voters

And so does the Los Angeles Times...Effem both.

5 posted on 11/24/2011 10:11:24 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: rabscuttle385

Mittens isn’t going anywhere fast. And neither is his twin Gingrich.


6 posted on 11/24/2011 10:11:57 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney is stuck anywhere between 20-26%. But with the complicit leftist media in his corner and so many Republicans stuck in ABBO mode (anyone but barack Obama) one never knows. Scary.


7 posted on 11/24/2011 10:14:29 PM PST by South40
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To: smoothsailing
And so does the Los Angeles Times...Effem both.

I knew it was just a matter of time before we would agree on something.

NO ROMNEY!

And the LA Times blows. :-P

8 posted on 11/24/2011 10:15:55 PM PST by South40
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To: rabscuttle385

I think Slick Mitt has a trust deficit with anyone who has discernment capabilities.


10 posted on 11/24/2011 10:19:27 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: South40

And NO GINGRICH!

I don’t trust them.

They’ll use conservatives and then throw them away!

That said, its the first truthful article we’ve seen in the MSM about Slick Willard.

I’m kind of surprised. I thought it would come out AFTER he got the nomination. I expected a hit piece on Romney but not this early in the election cycle.


11 posted on 11/24/2011 10:20:47 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rabscuttle385

To be fair, Mitt has made a lot of noises about how Romneycare is distinctly inappropriate at a Federal level, to the point of promising to exempt all 50 states from Obamacare once he became president. Some of Romneycare’s advisors did go on to provide input to Obamacare, but this was without Romney’s own endorsement, AFAIK. If there’s documentation that Romney himself secretly advanced Obamacare planning, that’s a whole different ballgame.

It’s other things than Obamacare that are a more serious issue with Romney. Romney would be a big spending liberal in other Federalized social programs and would be a mush on things like 2nd amendment rights.


12 posted on 11/24/2011 10:21:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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13 posted on 11/24/2011 10:22:50 PM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: goldstategop

I get the impression that Mitt is like the know-it-all kid in class who always had his hand up—a whiny brat that no one liked but had a rich daddy and all the toys everyone wanted.
He wants it too bad—BUT—that being said, he would be 100 times better than the poser we have in the White House Now. I could live with Mittens—I could live with all of the GOP hopefuls when compared to Obama and his crew of Progressives.


14 posted on 11/24/2011 10:24:11 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: goldstategop
Yes, no Romney, no flippin' way!

I don't think it's a hit piece if it's the truth. Romney has tons of baggage including advocating for amnesty, something he hypocritically condemns Gingrich for.

Perry, Newt and Romney are all non-starters.

Romney on amnesty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjo6GXSqIN8

15 posted on 11/24/2011 10:25:39 PM PST by South40
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Romney’s liberalism is more objectionable than his embrace of RomneyCare. Its one thing to support a disastrous state experiment. Its another thing to have a consistently liberal record. That’s why people don’t trust him. Slick is the word that comes to mind with Mittens - he’s just unprincipled and his only real concern to get elected.


16 posted on 11/24/2011 10:29:27 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rabscuttle385; HiTech RedNeck
Actions speak louder than words.

You've got that right.

He only SAYS he's anti-Abortion. He spent nearly 60 years of his life being unapologetically pro-Abortion and even used the money of Massachusetts tax payers for fund abortions.

He only SAYS he's against a government run socialist healthcare system. RomneyCare is just that.

He only SAYS he supports the 2nd amendment. He signed a gun ban into law.

He's a liberal. Period. I will NEVER vote for him.

17 posted on 11/24/2011 10:30:06 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: Lady4Liberty

Its all in the record.

The two liberals running for the GOP nomination don’t have majority support. People would like someone else to head the party.

Mittens’ real problem is that he lacks the one critical ingredient to be an effective President: core principles.

Without that, he won’t get anything done, even if he was elected.


18 posted on 11/24/2011 10:35:15 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Lady4Liberty
He only SAYS he's against a government run socialist healthcare system. RomneyCare is just that.

Incautious strawman arguments like this have a way of collapsing. Romney has shown an appreciation of the difference between federal and state systems vis a vis Obamacare/Romneycare. At the same time, he wouldn't want to see any of Massachusetts' or other states' liberalism get torpedoed, which means he couldn't be counted on to support things like DOMA (or whatever's left of it come November 2012) or anything which elbows into states' abortion policies.

19 posted on 11/24/2011 10:35:36 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Lady4Liberty
And he says he is opposed to amnesty yet he said this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjo6GXSqIN8

NO Romney.

NO Amnesty.

NO Way!

20 posted on 11/24/2011 10:35:45 PM PST by South40
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To: South40

Why did it cut off right where you would expect a qualifier or a “but” ???


21 posted on 11/24/2011 10:38:11 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Why did it cut off right where you would expect a qualifier or a “but” ???

From reading the comments he apparently he went on to say...

"But they should not be given a special pathway, a special guarantee that all of them get to stay here for the rest of their lives merely by virtue of having come here illegally, and that, I think, is the great flaw in the final bill that came forward from the Senate."

The second sentence does not change the intended meaning of the first.

My own view is, that those people that are in this country, that have come here illegally, the 12 million or so, should be able to sign up for permanent residency or citizenship.

22 posted on 11/24/2011 10:45:58 PM PST by South40
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yup. Trust is a very personal thing. People have a lifetime of views and human nature is predictable. Romney’s fatal handicap is he comes across as someone who is not believable. And if I don’t believe someone, it doesn’t matter what they have to tell me.


23 posted on 11/24/2011 10:46:16 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: South40

I can’t support Romney because he favors amnesty and Gingrich is cut out of the same cloth.

I cross any one off my list any one who isn’t going to secure our borders. A pity Joe Arpaio is running for President. He gets it!


24 posted on 11/24/2011 10:49:24 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Living and owning a business in SoCal I have probably been more adversely affected by ILLEGAL immigration than many. Any candidate who supports amnesty will never get my vote. That has gotten me labeled a racist by some in my family, as I was told again today. Bu it is rare to see so-called 'conservatives' tell me that at FR. Times they are a changin'!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811854/posts?page=117#117

25 posted on 11/24/2011 10:56:15 PM PST by South40
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney faces trust deficit? BS

I proudly place my full faith and trust in Mitt Romney to screw over Conservatives (and by extension, the nation) every chance he gets.

I know I am far from alone in this.


26 posted on 11/24/2011 11:04:26 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946...and thankful for it!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
He can't be trusted. Having a direct hand in expanding socialism, thousands of abortions, and trampling on the 2nd amendment under the guise of "well it's states rights!" doesn't fly if you're a so-called conservative. He's only singing that tune now to make his liberal past sound palatable. He had liberal positions before being governor. He's been on record as being pro-abortion, pro-homosexual rights, and anti-gun long before being sworn in. Having a liberal record just proves it. He went along with it all.

He's running for the highest office of the land, which is at the federal level. If he wants to be a gun grabbing socialist, maybe he should run for governor of some liberal state again. I don't think it's so much to ask that our possible Republican nominee have actual conservative principles.

I could imagine a wimp like Romney as President with a liberal house & senate. They'd get him to go along with ANY liberal position with very little pressure. He stands for nothing.

27 posted on 11/24/2011 11:05:50 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: goldstategop
is he comes across as someone who is not believable. And if I don’t believe someone, it doesn’t matter what they have to tell me.right. I well never vote for him. He is not likeable, not trustworthy.
28 posted on 11/25/2011 1:03:37 AM PST by tommix2
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To: rabscuttle385

This is from the L.A. Times.
Few “news” organizations offer print with an agenda like the L.A.Times does.
Calling it a rag is a true understatement.
Hey Mitt, piss off there ya flip flopping turd.


29 posted on 11/25/2011 1:59:51 AM PST by Joe Boucher (FUBO ya quota boy ( Real conservative or go fish, Sooo, that leaves you out Mitt))
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To: rabscuttle385

NO ROMNEY NO WAY...


30 posted on 11/25/2011 5:09:13 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: rabscuttle385

I don’t mistrust Mitt Romney,quite the opposite.

I trust Mitt Romney to continue with Romney-Obamacare, I trust him to be as liberal as Obama, perhaps with a few less vacations.

Romney is almost as bad as Obama, except he is Mormon and Obama is Muslim. I have to admit that being Mormon is a bit better.


31 posted on 11/25/2011 5:28:39 AM PST by Venturer
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney is on the wrong side of the things that matter most. Someone else needs to get the nomination.


32 posted on 11/25/2011 9:17:40 AM PST by DNA.2012
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Reading through the comments on this thread gives me the impression that Obama is gaining strength.

From an idiot like Patty Murray or, a comedian like Al Franken to socialists like Bernie Sanders or Jim McDermott, liberals will unite and rally to defeat any republican.

Conservatives will not bridge that gap.

33 posted on 11/25/2011 8:26:49 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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Reading through the comments on this thread gives me the impression that Obama is gaining strength.
From an idiot like Patty Murray or, a comedian like Al Franken to socialists like Bernie Sanders or Jim McDermott, liberals will unite and rally to defeat any republican.


34 posted on 11/25/2011 8:29:18 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: goldstategop
Mittens isn’t going anywhere fast. And neither is his twin Gingrich.

Mitt changes his mind more often than I change my under ware.

35 posted on 11/26/2011 4:06:14 PM PST by dearolddad
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