Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Gun-Haters Misrepresenting Concealed Weapons Stats
opposingviews.com ^ | 17 November, 2011 | Erich Pratt

Posted on 11/18/2011 4:44:55 AM PST by marktwain

On November 1, Wisconsin became the 49th state to recognize the right of its citizens to carry firearms. Now, only one state remains in the Dark Ages -- that being the state of Illinois.

As can be imagined, the anti-gun media is predicting that letting citizens carry firearms will result in carnage in the streets, shootouts in bars, and angry parents settling scores on the ball field with their firearms.

And to supposedly prove their point, they cite a bogus report of the Violence Policy Center (VPC) entitled “Concealed Carry Killers.”

The faux report says that “since May 2007 at least 300 people -- including 11 law enforcement officers -- have been killed by private citizens legally allowed to carry handguns in killings not ruled self-defense ….”

But according to an analysis found on PajamasMedia.com, less than half of the deaths which were attributed to concealed carry holders by the VPC were actually “committed by a permit holder drawing and firing his or her concealed weapon.”

Less than half? Yes, that was the figure as of December, 2009. Sadly, VPC’s reporting has not gotten any better in the following two years.

After all, the VPC double counts victims or considers self-defense killings as murder … uses non gun deaths (like strangulation) to inflate “concealed carry” killings … and adds accidental killings to its totals -- such as a case where an errant shot was fired at a robber.

More startlingly, VPC counts non-permit holders who, in some cases, were even prohibited by law from carrying a firearm. A notable case on their website is Jared Loughner, who shot Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords -- injuring her and killing six people.

The VPC claims that because of Arizona’s new law which allows law-abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns without a permit, “Loughner was able to legally carry his pistol to the Giffords event in his assassination attempt.”

But what VPC misses is that this right applies only to law-abiding citizens. Section 13-3102 of Arizona law specificallyprohibits and disallows the concealed carry of a handgun with the intent to commit a crime! Jared Loughner was most certainly NOT able to legally carry his pistol to commit the crimes he perpetrated in January, 2011, as the VPC claims.

The VPC wants to focus on the few bad apples in the concealed carry community and suggest that citizens can’t be trusted to carry firearms. But using their own logic, they should be arguing for cop disarmament, because they break the law far more often.

Gun Owners of America recently posted Fact Sheet on its website comparing crime rates between concealed carry permit holders and the police. As compared to those who carry concealed, the average American is almost 8 times more likely to be convicted of crimes and over 40 times more likely to be convicted of burglary -- and police officers are almost 800 times more likely to violate the law.

There are an estimated six million citizens who possess a concealed carry permit. The number of legal concealed carriers is probably higher, considering the growing number of states that recognize the right of their citizens to carry without a permit.

Press reports indicate that concealed carry is at an all time high, even while crime rates have been dropping in the U.S. over the past few years. Yet, we’ve been hearing the Chicken Little cries of doom and gloom as far back as the mid-1980s, when Florida kicked off the modern concealed carry movement with the enactment of its “shall issue” law.

Prior to its passage in 1987, there was a vigorous debate in the Florida legislature. Opponents of the law claimed that a carry law would turn the Sunshine State into the “Gunshine State.” It was a cute jingle, but their dire predictions never materialized. Murder rates started dropping immediately after the passage of the law, prompting one of the chief opponents, Rep. Ron Silver, to admit that he had been wrong about concealed carry.

Such was the case in Texas, as well. One of the chief opponents in the Lone Star State was Senior Cpl. Glenn White, who is president of the Dallas Police Association. White lobbied against the law in 1993 and 1995 because he thought it would lead to wholesale armed conflict.

Senior Cpl. White admits, though, “All the horror stories I thought would come to pass didn't happen. No bogeyman. I think it's worked out well, and that says good things about the citizens who have permits. I'm a convert.”

It takes guts to look at the evidence and admit you were mistaken. Kudos to Rep. Silver and Senior Cpl. White for being “man enough” to admit they were wrong.

Who knows, maybe the VPC will own up and admit they were also wrong about all the fear and paranoia they’ve peddled in their faux report. But then again, don’t hold your breath.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; statistics; vpc
The anti freedom types have always used lies to get what they want.
1 posted on 11/18/2011 4:44:57 AM PST by marktwain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: marktwain
Now we need to get rid of permits, if a citizen of the United States is allowed to own a gun they should be allowed to carry.
2 posted on 11/18/2011 4:51:53 AM PST by Dusty Road
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

What a shocker...I’m awe’d...

I think the Outlaw Josey Wales said it best...

“The truth I speak, is in my guns, in that I believe men can get along without butchering one another...”

The truth I speak is that if you desire to commit a crime against me, or against someone in my midst, and it is within the law that I understand, I will “stop” you from continuing that crime up to, and to the use of deadly force per the laws of this state and any state I am allowed to carry in through a reciprocal agreement...

As Ten Bears responded: “There is IRON in your words of peace, and in your words of war...We will honor your words!”

I do not believe these people to be trustworthy of honoring any of our words...Therefore, those people mean nothing to me...


3 posted on 11/18/2011 4:52:32 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

I’m not waiting for liberals to recognize we have a right to defend our lives and property.

That would never have happened if we had sat around waiting for them to change their minds.

An armed society is civilized one and our dropping crime rates are proof of it.


4 posted on 11/18/2011 5:21:11 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stevie_d_64

See my tagline...


5 posted on 11/18/2011 6:21:49 AM PST by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

6 posted on 11/18/2011 6:29:26 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Noumenon

Too bad they may only discover the severity of my “NO” at a most in-opportune time...

It’s called “too late”...


7 posted on 11/18/2011 6:46:59 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: marktwain
But according to an analysis found on PajamasMedia.com...

Analysis which the author of this article failed to link to.

8 posted on 11/18/2011 11:33:40 AM PST by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson