So, the answer is, when the citizenry are willing to go all the way then the formation of a new order will happen.
Yes, but I don't think the consequences will be pretty, if things ever get to that juncture. The new order will probably be totalitarian, if history is any guide.
12 posted on 11/18/2011 12:42:11 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham
(Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)