"Max Bialystock is launching himself into little old lady land."
Posted on 11/10/2011 12:35:57 PM PST by Johnny B.
According to a slide presentation given by NASA engineer Michael A. Nelson, which New Energy Times obtained under a FOIA request, “Energy Catalyzer” inventor Andrea Rossi failed to conclusively show that his device produced excess heat from a nuclear energy source.
According to Nelson, a NASA engineer who investigates low-energy nuclear reactions and space applications, Rossi did not run his demonstration long enough to prove his extraordinary claim.
At the Sept. 22, 2011 LENR Workshop at NASA Glenn Research Center, Nelson explained that Rossi “would need to run [his experiment] for eight hours or more with a small E-Cat and much longer for an Ottoman [Fat-Cat] to rule out a chemical reaction.”
According to Nelson, it would take “three or more days for a small E-Cat, two or more weeks for an Ottoman [Fat-Cat] E-Cat and several months for a 1 MW plant.”
Brian Ahern, a researcher with expertise in LENR, wrote to New Energy Times with a concise summary of the recent Oct. 28 Rossi demo:
“Rossi has been clever enough to change the trick on each successive demo. Using a secret customer is a great way to allow him to fulfill his promise to demo the 1 MW unit in October. He then evaded conducting the demo transparently by saying that the customer demanded the demo conditions. The “customer’ signed off when Rossi gave him the wink and he shut things down without any measurements by anyone except the shill.
“Occam’s Razor, on the other hand, says that 12 inconclusive demos in succession are not random. It is well planned and orchestrated. He has used the journalists like a team of puppets.”
If it’s a scam I can’t see how he expects to cash in.
He's only allowed to fall down on his knees in worship of the black box.
The science is settled. Shut up and hand over your money.
But... what is the impact for muslims?
NASA has given up on space, I think it’s time for a new name for them.
NGWMOA? National Global Warming and muslm Outreach Administration?
NOMA? National Outreach to muslims Agency?
Sure: attract "investors", and fleece, fleece, fleece....
Only need one buyer. A big one.
There is no evidence he has investors yet. If he can’t prove it works how is he going to get any?
>If it’s a scam I can’t see how he expects to cash in.
Well of course of everyone knows it’s a scam he won’t be able to cash in.
So the complaint is that it did not run 8 hrs (it only ran 5 1/2 hrs). So what are we going to be able to tell in the additonal 1 1/2 hrs that we were not able to tell by running it 5 1/2 hrs. I dont understand the logic here. Is 8 hrs some kind of break point that would eliminate a certain technology? If so, what?
I’ve always believed Rossi to be a scam, however, it’s also hard to believe anything a NASA scientist claims anymore since James Hansen.
Andrea Rossi has started taking orders for the units
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516&cpage=6#comment-107295
He has also said no more public tests.
http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com/2011/11/rossi-no-more-ecat-public-tests.html
I admit I was nervous when I heard the rumor that the secret buyer was the US government. But if he wanted to rip of the US taxpayer it would have been easier to start a scam solar company.
Rule #1 of scamming: never scam a bigger scammer.
“If it’s a scam I can’t see how he expects to cash in. “
Easy, get the gullable Obama West Wing Cretin/Felon Clowns to invest in it.
Those loons couldn’t make a bulb light...but they’re all smarter than we are.
Run one for a season at a tractor-pull.
I would also be cautious and skeptical because one of the promoters of the project has already sent a brag letter to Obama and Biden...so that he would likely use this potential development to further his campaign against existing fossil fuels.
If it’s a scam I can’t see how he expects to cash in.All he has to do is collect deposits from the "five year's worth of customers" that Kevmo claims he has, then skip town.
A more elaborate solution is to collect money from investors and customers, then convince them that the company has failed through no fault of his. Then pocket the money he never actually spent on trying to make them work.
Rossi has created a unique, world-class climate of expectation based on a year-long publicity campaign (all the while he claimed he didn't want publicity). Now, it's time to cash in.
I'm sure at this point, he could collect millions on the promise that he will deliver an E-Cat at some time in the future (even years in the future, since he's so overwhelmed with orders). He's been convicted of fraud several times in the past, and has run a number of very suspicious previous "revolutionary new invention" companies, so he has plenty of experience to draw upon.
For the small ecat eight hours is needed to show that it's self sustaining. Three or more days is needed to show that the source isn't a chemical reaction. The eight hour figure probably comes from the three or more hours that the ecat needs to be hooked up to a power source for it to warm up.
Kevmo and Wonder Warthog seem convinced that it works. That's assuming they aren't shills, too.
"Max Bialystock is launching himself into little old lady land."
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