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Child sex charges, possible cover-up rock Penn St
AP/Yahoo ^ | 11/6/11 | GENARO C. ARMAS and MARK SCOLFORO

Posted on 11/06/2011 4:04:13 AM PST by markomalley

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To: markomalley

JoePa reaches a coaching milestone, and finally the justice system acts on something that should have been addressed many years ago. I guess Happy Valley ain’t so happy for some children. :( Disgusting.


101 posted on 11/06/2011 11:45:01 AM PST by petitfour
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To: WPaCon
And he did report it to Shultz, who was head of University Police (they are real cops.)

Actually he reported it to Curley, NOT Shultz. Careful with your facts.

102 posted on 11/06/2011 11:45:36 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: WPaCon

Seems it was NEVER reported to the police. No police report, no problem, business as usual.

“Though Schultz oversaw the Penn State University Police Department as a part of his position, he never reported the incident to police, “

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2011/11/05/_sandusky_grand_jury_report.aspx


103 posted on 11/06/2011 11:46:55 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
Looks like it.
Texas state orphanage system used to be run in the same way.
Hopefully since these weren't “Holder's people” they will face jail time.
104 posted on 11/06/2011 11:56:48 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: NewinTexsas
or Pitt fan

Nope. I grew up in the South but the game of the year was always Alabama-PSU. We all loved PSU before and during the JP era. He should have retired a few years ago but that would have been the only thing negative I would have said about PSU till yesterday.

105 posted on 11/06/2011 12:03:49 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: flintsilver7

“Why Paterno was even involved is beyond me - he’s a football coach, not an LEO”

Paterno was “involved” because boys where being raped in his football showers. Why is that difficult? Paterno had a responsibility as the manager of the program to gather the all the facts. When they were not (i.e. victim not id’d, perp still on campus, etc.) he had a responsibility to escalate the matter. He did not do that and because of that a child rapist was on the loose for another 9 years.

BTW, it is alleged Joepa and Sandusky were still in contact on a daily basis. This after at least 2 investigated assaults on a child by Sandusky. That seems weird. Sorry if that is reactionary.


106 posted on 11/06/2011 12:05:11 PM PST by lodi90
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To: NewinTexsas
You were accused of only complaining about JoPa's possible complicity because you may be a fan of another football team?

I know there are some overzealous football fans out there, but that is a real stretch. I suspect even Pitt fans could put aside their rivalry and be horrified by the crime and cover-up in this case.

107 posted on 11/06/2011 12:10:16 PM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: Never on my watch
You were accused of only complaining about JoPa's possible complicity because you may be a fan of another football team?

I have always rooted for PSU over PITT!

I have always rooted for PSU except when they played a SEC team.

108 posted on 11/06/2011 12:32:53 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
I have always rooted for PSU except when they played a SEC team.

LOL... Glad to hear that is not your football allegiance that is causing you to criticize the coaching staff's complicity in allowing a child predator to remain free (as seemed to be alleged by someone else). ;)

109 posted on 11/06/2011 12:40:19 PM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: flintsilver7
Paterno was told in 2002 about the rape of a boy that was witnessed by a graduate assistant. Paterno took these secondhand allegations seriously enough that he met personally with both the AD and the head of the police to notify them about the actions of an individual who was no longer an employee.

No. He took it to the AD. The head of the police was NEVER informed, at least to the best of our knowledge.

110 posted on 11/06/2011 12:40:31 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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Paterno was told in 2002 about the rape of a boy

What did Paterno do after the 1998 investigation?

111 posted on 11/06/2011 12:41:26 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: lodi90

They aren’t “Paterno’s showers” and it’s patently idiotic to even suggest anything of the sort. He’s not the warlord of a small part of the town. He’s a football coach. He has no obligation to gather all the facts or anything of the sort. He did what he was supposed to do. Paterno contacted Curley immediately and then shortly thereafter contacted Schultz, who oversaw the University police. If that isn’t escalation, I don’t know what the hell is.

By the way, alleging that Paterno and Sandusky had daily contact is meaningless. Whether you’re pulling that out of your ass or not is irrelevant since it has no bearing on anything.


112 posted on 11/06/2011 12:52:39 PM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: flintsilver7

You think JoePa doesn’t have supreme control over everything that goes on there?

Hell with their mediocre performance over the last 10 years, I wouldn’t be surprised if he kept his job specifically because he had these pinheads over a barrel. (poor choice of words perhaps).

I want to know who looked out for that kid? I would like to know how JoePa or anyone from PSU didn’t see to it that Second Mile was busted up, and destroyed. Instead Sandusky is hanging around in 2002 despite past issues.

It doesn’t matter what we say here go check twitter trends JoePa is finished. The bigger question is how much does PSU end up paying out in civil suits? Lawyers are probably arranging hotels in Happy Valley as we speak.


113 posted on 11/06/2011 12:58:38 PM PST by techworker
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To: NewinTexsas

The grand jury report (pages 8-10 in particular) point out that Schultz was notified by both the graduate assistant and Paterno about the 2002 rape. It is also noted that Schultz “oversaw the police as part of his position.” That’s about as clear as can be.

As for the 1998 investigation, I have no idea what, if any, details Paterno knew. What they knew was that the investigation (wrongly) resulted in no criminal charges but “administrative” actions were taken (the unenforceable ban on bringing children to campus) as well as the unceremonious end to his coaching career. You are again holding Paterno to an impossible standard.


114 posted on 11/06/2011 1:04:35 PM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: flintsilver7

Paterno didn’t contact Schultz. But I do see that you modify your ‘words’ as you get caught misrepresenting the facts.


115 posted on 11/06/2011 1:05:36 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: markomalley
Penn State is getting to be quite the experts at coverups, given their whitewash of the climategate fraud and now this.
116 posted on 11/06/2011 1:10:01 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: techworker

There are plenty of guilty parties at Penn State but Paterno isn’t one of them. The guy is an 80 year old football coach and people are upset that he didn’t transform into some combination of Wyatt Earp and Sherlock Holmes to singlehandedly identify and put a stop to a problem he didn’t know about.

I urge you to re-read your first sentence and think about it.


117 posted on 11/06/2011 1:11:39 PM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: flintsilver7

Just for the record it was not reported to ANY police agency.

” Schultz said there was never any discussion between himself and Curley about turning the 2002 incident over to any police agency.”

http://deadspin.com/jerry-sandusky/


118 posted on 11/06/2011 1:12:24 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: flintsilver7
Paterno contacted Curley immediately and then shortly thereafter contacted Schultz, who oversaw the University police. If that isn’t escalation, I don’t know what the hell is.

If he had knowledge of a predator attacking a child, or reason to believe it MAY have happened, he should notify the police immediately and directly. Notifying Curley, Shultz, Moe or Harpo is just an administrative procedure and could be the second or third calls he made.

Weeks passed while this red tape process went on.

119 posted on 11/06/2011 1:14:41 PM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: flintsilver7
There are plenty of guilty parties at Penn State but Paterno isn’t one of them.

Whatever. Looking the other way after this dude if found banging a ten year old in your locker room is ok with you? Never mind looking the other way after the 1998 event while he was in his employment. Never mind all the 'comments' circulating about this guy and his behavior around young boys.

120 posted on 11/06/2011 1:16:32 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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