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Common Threads between Islam and Mormonism
Townhall.com ^ | October 30, 2011 | Michael Youseff, The Church of The Apostles.

Posted on 10/30/2011 4:05:59 PM PDT by Kaslin

A number of years ago, I was on Larry King Live and was asked point-blank if I had a problem with the appointments of Justices Roberts and Alito (both are Roman Catholics). My answer was very clear that I did not, as long as they shared my own conviction of upholding the Constitution — not trying to rewrite it — and as long as they were committed to the Biblical values of the Founding Fathers. I was certain that both men were.

Many people today are quoting a statement reputedly made by Martin Luther, the great reformer, that he “would rather be ruled by a competent Turk (a Muslim) than an incompetent Christian.” First of all, there is no evidence whatsoever that Martin Luther ever said these words. But even if he did say them, it would have been a gross exaggeration used to make a point. He never lived under a Muslim ruler and did not know what that would be like. But I did. And I can tell you, there is no such thing as choosing between Muslim and non-Muslim leaders under Islam.

pastedGraphic.pdf In America, we have the great privilege of choosing candidates based on our core values, rather than how they identify with our theological point of view.

In looking at some of the candidates for the 2012 election, one cannot help but notice the controversies that have arisen regarding the Mormon religion. As I considered Luther’s quote and the concerns regarding electing a Mormon president, I noticed some peculiar similarities between the Mormon faith and Islam as they relate to orthodox Christianity.

It's hard to believe that two religions that are worlds apart geographically have so many things in common. Here are some examples:

1. Both believe that Christianity was corrupt and incomplete until their respective founders came on the scene. For Islam, it was Muhammad; for Mormons, it was Joseph Smith.

2. They both have their own book of “sacred scripture.” While both tip their hats to the Bible, each see God’s Word as insufficient by itself. Both Islam and Mormonism use many biblical themes, narratives and personalities. But the Qur’an draws heavily from the apocryphal books rather than the authoritative cannon of the Bible.

3. In both cases, Islam and Mormonism see their religion as complete within itself. Above all, both repudiate Biblical Christianity and identify orthodox Christianity as a false faith.

4. Both religions reject the doctrine of the Trinity. The Mormon’s concept of god includes many gods, not just one. Muslims view god as one, but as an aloof, remote god who could never become a man or relate to humanity. Allah can have mercy if he wants to, but he is also a cunning god.

5. Both religions reject the Bible as the sole and sufficient authority of faith. For Mormons, the Book of Mormon and other writings of the Latter Day Saints represent God’s final revelation. For Muslims, the Qur’an and the Sunna (traditions of Muhammad) constitute God’s final authoritative word.

6. They both reject the Biblical teaching of original sin. Muslims believe Adam did not become completely depraved after disobeying God; he merely slipped but quickly recovered. Therefore to Muslims, humanity does not need redemption. Salvation in Islam is very uncertain, even when keeping the Five Tenants of Islam; although some teach that jihad will help in that quest for salvation. Mormons believe that they are not condemned by what many call “original sin.” In other words, they are not accountable for Adam’s transgression in the Garden of Eden.

Here are two questions Christians must ask when considering political candidates:

First, has the candidate been consistent in his/her political and moral values, or is he/she pandering? Second, has the candidate upheld their philosophical convictions throughout their public and private life, or did they change their political convictions to suit their audience?

All believers need to be good stewards and spend time in deep prayer before exercising their right to vote. God will give us wisdom so that we will not be persuaded by the slickest and the cleverest. We can trust Him to help us choose those who have proven core values.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; islam; mormon; mormonislam; mormonism
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1 posted on 10/30/2011 4:06:01 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

One thing NOT in common...the LDS probably won’t issue a decree to have you slain or beheaded.


2 posted on 10/30/2011 4:10:35 PM PDT by Imnidiot (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: Kaslin

This crawp is getting old.


3 posted on 10/30/2011 4:10:47 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Kaslin

Youseff


4 posted on 10/30/2011 4:11:40 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: Kaslin

Uh oh, now you’ve done it. Flame war will commence in 5 . . . 4 . . . . 3 . . . 2 . . .


5 posted on 10/30/2011 4:13:42 PM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Kaslin

This is stupid.


6 posted on 10/30/2011 4:16:38 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Agree.


7 posted on 10/30/2011 4:19:40 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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8 posted on 10/30/2011 4:20:28 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Imnidiot
Not necessarily.

When I was working for Utah Power and Light in Utah I asked a RM and Mormon in good standing if his Bishop told him to kill me would he do it.

He said that is a hypothetical question and then said yes.

That was when I decided to move out of Utah.

9 posted on 10/30/2011 4:20:56 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Agree.


10 posted on 10/30/2011 4:22:06 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Kaslin
1. Both believe that Christianity was corrupt and incomplete until their respective founders came on the scene. For Islam, it was Muhammad; for Mormons, it was Joseph Smith.

And for Protestants, it was Martin Luther.

Glaring-omission alert.

11 posted on 10/30/2011 4:24:57 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: cruise_missile
I asked a RM and Mormon in good standing if his Bishop told him to kill me would he do it.

Maybe it was just YOU. Heck, I don't even know you, BUT...teehee

12 posted on 10/30/2011 4:27:34 PM PDT by bigheadfred (wogga wogga)
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To: cruise_missile

Smart move! Please expound further on your experience living in a Mormon state. People refuse to believe the truth at their own peril, do they not?


13 posted on 10/30/2011 4:28:13 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( I like Herman Cain)
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To: Kaslin
I"m not a Mormon and avoid the Mormon bashing threads but this is really idiotic,whats next advocating that we send LDS members to the showers ?

Take this bigoted crap over to Dummies Unlimited

14 posted on 10/30/2011 4:28:49 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: the invisib1e hand

And for catholics its the many popes.

Its a strawman argument meant to incite. ANY religion can be corrupted, but only one major one was started by a lying murdering thief and thats Islam.


15 posted on 10/30/2011 4:29:29 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cruise_missile

Go to Utah and insult the LDS, then go to Saudi Arabia and insult their pig loving prophet.

Which would would you be more likely to survive?


16 posted on 10/30/2011 4:30:46 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kaslin

I have this private theory that there is no difference between darkness and light.

After all, you never see them both in the same place, do you? It’s like Michael Moore and the Martian moon Phobos. You see one, but not the other. Curious, isn’t it?

Think about it; that’s all I’m sayin’.


17 posted on 10/30/2011 4:31:33 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (Dick Cheney - "I was born an American; a blessing surely among life's greatest.")
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To: Kaslin

what a load of crap

now go back and find how similar islam is to the bible believing Christians.


18 posted on 10/30/2011 4:34:40 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Kaslin
I signed into the News/Activism Forum, but I windup in the Religious Forum?

WTF is going on?

19 posted on 10/30/2011 4:36:10 PM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Martin Luther did not say the religion was corrupt and certainly not that it was incomplete, just the people involved and some of the man-created traditions were corrupt.

Glaring strawman alert.

20 posted on 10/30/2011 4:36:29 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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