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Karl Rove finds the non-Romney candidates unacceptable
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Posted on 10/28/2011 12:43:59 PM PDT by Leaning Right

Rove is very much in a “do I have to do everything myself” mode these days, which is why he’s also running the GOP’s congressional campaign as an independently funded venture. Here he is practically acting as a Romney surrogate on Fox and attacking Herman Cain, because actual Romney surrogates seem unable to.

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The title of the article says a lot. Salon is a hard left site, and they get most things wrong. But they sure have Rove's number.

The real question is this: Is Fox that ignorant of what Rove is up to, or are they co-conspirators?

1 posted on 10/28/2011 12:44:05 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Leaning Right

There are many on Fox that are promoting Romney.


2 posted on 10/28/2011 12:49:11 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: dragonblustar

Here is my new bumper sticker here in Texas:

SHUT UP, KARL!


3 posted on 10/28/2011 12:51:44 PM PDT by patriotsoul
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To: Leaning Right

Rove, you malfeasant bastard!


4 posted on 10/28/2011 12:52:51 PM PDT by texas_mrs (Heartless Conservative & Native Texan)
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To: Leaning Right
He needs to STFU and let the process run its course. It is not ethical OR fair for Rove to make an end run on ANY candidate at this point. Down the road when the horse race narrows, fine... his comments will matter.... NOT NOW

Voters are entitled to hear candidates unencumbered by biased and mean-spirited input from the side lines.

5 posted on 10/28/2011 12:53:22 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." Edmund Burke)
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To: Leaning Right

Patriots find the Romney candidate unacceptable!


6 posted on 10/28/2011 12:54:18 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: texas_mrs

ROFL!


7 posted on 10/28/2011 12:55:20 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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To: Leaning Right

Rove has distinguished himself with his love
of ineligible, implausible, political cross dressers.

Rove is nothing but a paid pimp, like FOX “News”.


8 posted on 10/28/2011 12:57:31 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Leaning Right
Pig Rove has been popping up on Fox a hell of a lot lately.

You'd be surprised how quick I can grab the remote.

9 posted on 10/28/2011 12:57:37 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Leaning Right

Maybe Karl should run for office so we can show him how acceptable he is.


10 posted on 10/28/2011 12:57:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Leaning Right

Rove is basically right. Ideology aside, few have demonstrated the staying power, consistent support, field organization, discipline, focus, and endorsements as Romney. Perry is Romney’s only real peer on the stage. The others are just competing for airtime and attention. Does anyone seriously believe that Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, or Michelle Bachmann or Rick Santorum has a plausible chance? Of course not. And Cain won’t last too long under scrutiny as he is the least tested and there are some obvious flaws with 999.

And the Tea Party has been ALL OVER THE MAP. First Palin supporters, when she didn’t get in, they went to Bachmann. Then the very day Perry announced, they dropped Bachmann and went over to him, and then after a few subpar debate performances and mulligans, they are now flocking to Cain. Romney will win simply by divide and conquer and that the Tea Party has been all over the map.


11 posted on 10/28/2011 1:02:54 PM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: patriotsoul

How can you be mad at Tokyo?
He gave us Bush.
He gave us Perry...

Okay,

SHUT UP, KARL!


12 posted on 10/28/2011 1:04:58 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: DaveyB

13 posted on 10/28/2011 1:08:11 PM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: SMARTY

Karl Rove is unacceptable - especially after the way he ranted about Christine O’Donnell, spittle flying from his mouth, when she defeated his pal Mike Castle. Talk about a sore loser!


14 posted on 10/28/2011 1:09:37 PM PDT by juliej
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To: Leaning Right

Never will I vote for Romney. Never...


15 posted on 10/28/2011 1:13:24 PM PDT by callthemlikeyouseethem (Biden10/19/08: "I probably shouldn't have said all this because.. the press is here")
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To: Leaning Right

Karl Rove was responsible for Arnold Palmer and Lincoln Chaffee, among other stellar picks.


16 posted on 10/28/2011 1:13:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Cicero

And, of course, Arlen Specter.


17 posted on 10/28/2011 1:14:38 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: juliej

Keep runing your mouth Karl, Your more help than ya know in driving down mittons numbers


18 posted on 10/28/2011 1:15:08 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Leaning Right

Rove is simply looking after his financial interests.
He doesn’t give a damn about parties, conservative or iberal.
NO way I support or vote for RINO Romney.
Not another bob dull, or juan mc lame, and no to this clown who has NO beliefs.


19 posted on 10/28/2011 1:16:03 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (FUBO ( Real conservative or go fish))
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

You are right.


20 posted on 10/28/2011 1:17:18 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Leaning Right
everyone needs to stop looking at Fox as some messenger for the right. They are not and are just another media source from which to get partial information but never the complete truth. That onus, is upon you, me and everyone from which they should make decisions.

Fox News ain't all its cracked up to be.

21 posted on 10/28/2011 1:18:21 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Leaning Right

The RINO’s are revolting, they should go and start their own party: The Roadkill Party or the Moderate Eastablishment Party or something.


22 posted on 10/28/2011 1:22:12 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Leaning Right

Karl Rove finds the non-Romney candidates unacceptable

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Non-Romney voters find Karl Rove unacceptable


23 posted on 10/28/2011 1:22:21 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: Gen. Burkhalter
Rove is basically right. Ideology aside, few have demonstrated the staying power, consistent support, field organization, discipline, focus, and endorsements as Romney.


It is amazing how so many dismiss the power of the Tea Party. Many do so, hoping it will disappear. I do not think many understand how huge, powerful, and energized it really is. The shuffle of support you observed between candidates was the Tea Party wanting to make sure it had made the right choice this time around. Now that the Tea Party is settling in on Cain, nothing is going to stop them. Just watch this one unfold. It will make fools out of a lot of pundits, RHINOs, and Rove types, and the MSM and FOX News.
24 posted on 10/28/2011 1:28:34 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: Leaning Right
Sean Hannity keeps referring to Rove as “The Architect”.

I think The Undertaker is a better choice. He killed the GOP’s chances of a Republican Successor by his miserable advise to GWB in his last term on many issues. And the fact that Bush II’s wins were so close both times - given the poor opponents he faced is no tribute to Rove’s abilities.

FOX is an active Co-Conspirator with Rove, shilling for Romney at every turn.

They want to keep the same establishment monkeys in power who helped create the mess that put Obama in power. Kraphammer in particular has shown his true colors. Brit Hume is no conservative. I remember the venom that filled his eyes when he spoke with or about Palin. Fred Barnes always was an unreconstructed Bushbot.

25 posted on 10/28/2011 1:34:39 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY)
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To: callthemlikeyouseethem

I swear on my sacred honor that I will not vote for romney.

LLS


26 posted on 10/28/2011 1:36:00 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

Rove hates conservatives, hates the tea party and is interested in only one thing. Promoting RINOS and holding on to power regardless of where his RINO of the day stands.

NO ROMNEY ON FR!! PERIOD!!

Promote RINO Romney on FR you get the boot!!

FUMR!! FUKR!!


27 posted on 10/28/2011 1:38:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: ZULU
Check out Bush's presser the morning after the 2006 massacre... he looked rove in the eyes and blamed him for the loss... and rove laughed and Bush said, “I am not kidding”.

LLS

28 posted on 10/28/2011 1:38:37 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Solson

I can’t agree more. I used to think that FOX was Conservative. I used to think that I was getting good information from FOX, and I used to watch FOX. NO MORE!


29 posted on 10/28/2011 1:38:41 PM PDT by Essie
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

TEA party hater zot.


30 posted on 10/28/2011 1:39:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Leaning Right

Yeah, like Rove makes my voting decisions for me.


31 posted on 10/28/2011 1:40:14 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Gen. Burkhalter
I seriously believe that Newt Gingrich has a plausible chance. He is certainly Romney's peer on that stage.

I don't think it makes any sense to put ideology aside, that is half the equation, the other half being electability. With every poll that emerges showing Obama vulnerable, the electability quotient becomes less important relative to ideology. I submit that Gingrich's ideology, while not perfect, is far more reliable than Romney's.

I agree with you that Herman Cain will probably fade but we have to wait for the evidence of that, meanwhile, it is merely a subjective hunch that you and I share. If he does fade, Gingrich emerges as the only tenable alternative to the Rino.

"... The staying power, consistent support, field organization, discipline, focus, and endorsements" which you cite as attributes of Romney can be seen as weaknesses. Staying power is not of much use after five years with no forward progress. Rather than strength, it and the other attributes betray a limiting weakness. Rather than Romney being consistent it is the three quarters of the Republican Party in stubborn opposition to him which is consistent.

I'm afraid we're going to have to let the drama play out and, whether we like it or not, Karl Rove, as you point out, will play his part.


32 posted on 10/28/2011 1:40:35 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Essie

fox is a progressive propaganda outlet run and owned by progressives. They are no more than the best of the worst.

LLS


33 posted on 10/28/2011 1:40:38 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Leaning Right

rove can go pound sand


34 posted on 10/28/2011 1:41:39 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Cicero
I think you are confusing Arnold Palmer, the great golfer, with Arlen Specter, the poor senator.

Both are from Pennsylvania and both are (in Specter's case) or were Republicans. We will keep Arnold Palmer, thank you.

35 posted on 10/28/2011 1:41:53 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

You gotta be kidding.

Romney is the candidate the Dems WANT. Romneycare will DESTROY any chances of him criticizing Obama. His Mormon Background will lose the GOP valuable votes in the Bible Belt. He’s anti-Second Amendment and is a poster boy for crony capitalism.

If Romney is nominated, it will be McCain all over again.

You HAVE to be kidding about Perry. While he is right about many issues, he couldn’t debate his way out of a wet paper bag. Obama would cut him to pieces WITHOUT a teleprompter. Besides, polls show even TEXANS opposed his policy toward illegals and he has connections with the Islamic Community.

That leaves Gingrich, Cain, Santorum or Bachmann as the only real conservatives running and the only one with traction is Cain right now.

The Tea Perty has not been all over the map philosophically. Romney has. They want a conservative condidate who can beat Romney FIRST, and THEN Obama.

If the GOP wants to repeat the mistakes of 2008, they will go with Romney and make the Democrats and mainstream media VERY VERY happy (There is a REASON they have been targetting the other candidates and giving Romney the same free ride they gave McCain - until the campaign against Obama.)


36 posted on 10/28/2011 1:42:13 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY)
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To: nathanbedford

I like Gingrich. A lot.


37 posted on 10/28/2011 1:43:10 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY)
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To: Gen. Burkhalter; onyx; rintense; Norm Lenhart; Windflier
First Palin supporters, when she didn’t get in, they went to Bachmann. Then the very day Perry announced, they dropped Bachmann and went over to him, and then after a few subpar debate performances and mulligans, they are now flocking to Cain.

Your analysis is just plain wrong. Most Palin supporters (not all) waited until she said she was not going to run. Few (if any) had gone to Bachmann, almost none had gone to Perry, frankly most of us don't like him as an alternative. Now that the looking around is complete, most of us have gone to Cain, and that's one of several reasons he is doing so well. It's his to win or lose right now, he has to continue to convince us he deserves our support

Fwiw, it's been fairly deliberate, not as you described it.

38 posted on 10/28/2011 1:53:21 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

About how I see it also.


39 posted on 10/28/2011 1:54:53 PM PDT by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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To: onyx; rintense; Norm Lenhart; Windflier
Oops, he's gone.......

IATZ!!!!

40 posted on 10/28/2011 1:55:06 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Vigilanteman

Oh, dear. No, I was confusing him with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Or not confusing him so much as posting too fast.


41 posted on 10/28/2011 1:56:15 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Lakeshark
Oops, he's gone.......

Clearly no smarter than his alter ego .....


42 posted on 10/28/2011 2:06:33 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

43 posted on 10/28/2011 2:08:08 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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45 posted on 10/28/2011 2:15:50 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: ZULU

I have to laugh every time I hear “The Architect”. Most of the time Hannity is unlistenable and/or unwatchable. The Sean Hannity show would be OK without Sean Hannity.


46 posted on 10/28/2011 2:17:00 PM PDT by certrtwngnut
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To: Leaning Right

The establishment, BOTH sides of the aisle, is scared absolutely to DEATH that someone might come along who would weaken their grasp on the public tit!


47 posted on 10/28/2011 2:18:54 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Gen. Burkhalter; Dr. Sivana; Allegra; lormand; fieldmarshaldj; Fiji Hill; Lucius Cornelius Sulla
General Burkhalter:

Rove is a bought and paid for consultant with a portable mattress, a portable red light, and a sack of quarters to make change.

If the GOP cannot do better than another big business whore like Romney, it will deservedly lose in 2012.

But, hey, don't listen to me. Listen to Slick Willard Romney himself and his campaign staff.

First, access on Youtube the video: What Romney Does Not Want Republicans to Hear. About 5 1/2 minutes of film from Romney's pro-abortion, pro-perversion, anti-gun, anti-Reagan past and left of Ted Kennedy past.

Second, Romney's people have a website up called whyromney.com on nearly 20 issues where he has been an enemy of our movement and our country. If you access the site, be sure to bring your barf bag. You will need it if you are conservative as that site rolls out one inane and self-serving excuse after another from the second generation Brainwashed candidate as to is manifest failures on every issue that conservatives care about.

Also note as you read how Mittens is preserving his ability to move sharply leftward once nominated. If he wins, we don't win. Beating Obozo is fine but it is NOT ENOUGH.

Romney can NOT be trusted on babies, guns, marriage, SCOTUS and other federal judge appointments, mythical "man-made" global warming fantasies, cap and trade, federal funding of baby-killing, exporting private sector American jobs, knuckling under to globaloney trade regulations, disarmament schemes, or to keep taxpayers' cash out of the ever ravenous maw of his privileged buddies or on most other important issues.

It is long past time that the conservative candidates on stage (everyone but Romney and Huntsman) decapitated this worthless jackass in GOP drag and let the party move on. Even Ron Paul can participate on issues like economy abuse by the Federal Reserve and Paul can thereby begin to look somewhat vaguely conservative and get some street cred that he presently lacks.

BTW, it is Mittens' hereditary elitism and liberalism that are the problem and not his membership in the Mormon Church. Would you like, however, to imagine what the Carville, Clinton, Begala types in the Demonrat Party will say and do in bashing Mormonism to destroy any credible threat by Slick Willard to Obozo? Their attacks would be shameful and effectively unAmerican and decidedly unfair, but what else is new?

Be honest and concede that what Slick Willard has demonstrated is basically the ability get and hold support from about 25% of self-described (and apparently gullible) GOP voters and the ability to pile up cash from the usual gang of big money social revolutionary materialist mania pigs who want back at the trough under yet another "moderate" GOP windtunnel for more rounds of bailouts on autospend. The lame stream media lusts for Slick Willard to be nominated because he poses no threat whatsoever to Obozo's program and supports most of it and because he is the real father of ObozoCare. His mere nomination would permanently destroy the GOP even if he loses and especially if he wins.

48 posted on 10/28/2011 2:23:20 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: Leaning Right

Rove must fail......... for America to win.


49 posted on 10/28/2011 2:34:50 PM PDT by Gator113 (~ Just livin' life~........ leaning heavy for Newt 2012)
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To: Leaning Right
Salon is a left-wing propaganda outlet and if they are giving Rove publicity for his statements, that just proves the left hopes to promote a Romney candidacy and see a repeat of 2008, where Obama, against all odds, wins. Not this time. Even among the more apathetic Republicans and independents, Romney is hardly an attractive candidate. His Wall Street background along with his unrepentant support for the failed RomneyCare scheme in Massachusetts will sink him. He is too slick by far and his flip-flopping has not gone unnoticed. If Beltway operators like the ideology-free Karl Rove have their way, Romney will dutifully lose to Obama and even if he somehow pulled off a win, he would be only slightly better than Obama on most significant issues. No way, José!

The TEA party has basically coalesced around the candidacy of Herman Cain. Yes, many of us were Palin supporters but when she announced she would not run, we went to Cain. Well, I did. Rick Perry was never on my short list. I like Bachmann and Santorum but never saw them as real contenders. Right now, I'm keeping an eye on Newt Gingrich as my 'backup' candidate, should Cain somehow blow it, which I doubt. Newt has many attributes and some negatives but if Cain can't make it, I could vote for Gingrich without holding my nose so tightly that it hurts, as I had to do with John McCain in '08.

I really don't understand the animosity toward Fox News. Granted, they are not, as the liberal media try to claim, the propaganda arm of the Republican party but they do give Republicans a fair shot. No other network does that. None. Yes, they have Karl Rove as a commentator. They also have Sarah Palin. I ignore Rove, Krauthammer et al. and I simply do not see Fox News as the stealth liberal Democrat propaganda outlet a few FReepers seem to think it is. That is tin foil hat stuff. Fox News is not Free Republic but it is a good source of political news, even if the commentary is sometimes less conservative than I might like. It is not a conservative-hating network like MSNBC and all the others. The demand for total conservative 'purity' from an independent cable TV network operated as a profit-making business is simply unrealistic, in my view. I'm glad we have Fox News.

I believe Herman Cain will get a fair hearing on Fox News and that Karl Rove's opinions will have less and less impact as the presidential primary season unfolds. Rove is old news. Hannity may praise Rove but not many others do and if Cain wins the Republican presidential nomination Rove will be forced to either support him (albeit weakly) or just go away because he can't very well keep saying the Republican candidate 'can't win' and not be lambasted with criticism of his appearances on Fox. I suspect that if Cain wins the presidency, Rove will change his tune - but far too late. He'll be on the outside looking in, where he belongs.

50 posted on 10/28/2011 2:49:24 PM PDT by Jim Scott (on the 'Cain Train')
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