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Issa probing, Justice is resisting on F&F ‘third gun’ (gunwalker)
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 18 October, 2011 | Dave Workman

Posted on 10/19/2011 5:23:28 AM PDT by marktwain

Congressman Darrell Issa is reportedly preparing a letter to send to the FBI about a mysterious “third gun” allegedly recovered from the December 2010 murder scene of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry in Arizona, but the Justice Department is already firing back with assertions that the gun doesn’t exist.

News of this third gun first surfaced weeks ago, and Issa has been dogging this as part of his investigation as head of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. He spoke Sunday morning with CBS’ Bob Schieffer and investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson, explaining that this investigation is hardly about politics, as Obama administration defenders are asserting.

Now comes the report on Fox News that the Justice Department is firing back at Issa. The department has issued a statement that says:

"The FBI has made clear that reports of a third gun recovered from the perpetrators at the scene of Agent Terry's murder are false."

This column is reminded of a letter sent to Senator Charles Grassley on Feb. 4, 2011 by Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich in response to the Iowa senator’s inquiry about Operation Fast and Furious. Here’s what Weich told Grassley:

“At the outset, the allegation described in your January 27 letter—that ATF “sanctioned” or otherwise knowingly allowed the sale of assault weapons to a straw purchaser who then transported them into Mexico—is false.”

Who should the public believe, a California congressman whose investigation has already shown that the Weich claim was demonstrably false, or a Justice Department whose leader – Attorney General Eric Holder – may ultimately be the target of that investigation for having possibly allowed Fast and Furious to go forward, and who then possibly misled Congress about the extent of his involvement?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; clinton; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryclinton; holder; ice; issa; obama; statedept
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The old order is based on lies and the ability of the MSM to keep us in the dark.
1 posted on 10/19/2011 5:23:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
The FBI is in Fast and Furious up to its neck. They run the National Instant Background Check from DC, and they had to subvert the process to give the F&F felons approval to make their straw purchases. Dirty, dirty, dirty. And no low-level FBI personnel could approve such a policy--that came from an Asst Director AT LEAST, with briefings to Director Mueller AT LEAST.

That's why Mueller is so quiet. He is in Fast and Furious to his eyeballs. It could not have "worked" without FBI help in undermining the NIBC system.

2 posted on 10/19/2011 5:25:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: MestaMachine
Gunwalker ping. I suspect that Chairman Issa has more evidence than we have heard yet. It would not surprise me if he has a serial number that a whistle blower has given him.
3 posted on 10/19/2011 5:25:00 AM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: marktwain

That’s what has the perps so horrified. They don’t know how much information Issa has already, such as the 3rd rifle’s number, even the name of the FBI or DEA CI who might have shot Brian Terry, etc.

Once these nimrods are in front of Issa, they are going to be screwed. Including Mueller, for approving the subversion of the NIBC system, in order to allow gunwalking felons to buy hundreds of assault rifles.

Mueller is going DOWN.


4 posted on 10/19/2011 5:27:53 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

lawyer 101.......never ask a question you do not know the answer to.... Issa has them by the short hairs, and they know it...fubo’s game plan is to delay, delay, delay...


5 posted on 10/19/2011 5:32:54 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone; Joe Brower

Imagine the political machinations going on between the 16 named in Issa’s subpoenas. They must be shi++ing bricks, wondering who among them has already flipped to Issa and turned over everything, but in secret, having made a deal.

The first to flip gets the best deal. They all know it. People are going to prison. Perhaps even Holder and Mueller.

A very clear “smoking gun” will be the email trail and orders leading the FBI to subvert the NIBC system to allow felons to buy weapons. That will be like a homing missile coming right at the top floors of DOJ/FBI/ATF.


6 posted on 10/19/2011 5:38:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

Hate using OJ defense teams quotes but, I can see a day when Chairman Issa is showing AG Holder a picture and asking, “What about THAT Mr. Holder?, Isn’t THAT the THIRD WEAPON, MR. Holder?”


7 posted on 10/19/2011 5:38:57 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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Can’t wait for Issa to invite Mr. O’Reilly into his chambers for an interview....(Bring him back from Iraq without Holder knowing.....?) heh, heh!


8 posted on 10/19/2011 5:41:05 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: marktwain
O administration trying to muck up the investigation with this "2, or 3?" argument.

What does it matter if it's 2, or 3, or 1, or 10? They gave thousands of weapons to the worst of the worst. Hundreds are dying because of it.

9 posted on 10/19/2011 5:42:24 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: marktwain

What is the particular significance of the third weapon? How does it make the thing even worse? I am sure it must because there is so much tension regarding it but what is that significance? Anyone?


10 posted on 10/19/2011 5:50:02 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Travis McGee
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11 posted on 10/19/2011 5:56:44 AM PDT by RetSignman (It's Fall...the "Goebbles Warmers" are packing their bags , migrating for their winter caves.)
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To: ThanhPhero

Apparently the 2 known F&F weapons are not a ballistics match to the bullet that killed the border patrol officer. If the 3rd weapon is from F&F and was used to kill the officer, then the oddicer’s death is squarely on the head of whoever backed F&F.

It sounds like Holder and company are desperately trying to deflect blame in an increasingly dire situation.


12 posted on 10/19/2011 5:57:23 AM PDT by MortMan (Half the people make more than the median income in this country!)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

Two three or not two three, that is the question.


13 posted on 10/19/2011 6:36:10 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: marktwain

These people need to go to prison.


14 posted on 10/19/2011 6:40:52 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: marktwain

I guess JD didn’t get the memo:
ZERO is going to hold the F&F brain trust responsible and appropriately punish.

Watch out down below, the snow ball is headed down hill.


15 posted on 10/19/2011 6:42:15 AM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60

No, it’s something else that rolls downhill.


16 posted on 10/19/2011 7:19:33 AM PDT by OKSooner ("Get a brain, morans!!")
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To: OKSooner

He He :-)


17 posted on 10/19/2011 7:30:13 AM PDT by marty60
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To: marktwain
There was a rumor on one of these threads about a month ago that Melson gave Issa a flash drive at that July 4 meeting..... I emphasize, "rumor"...
18 posted on 10/19/2011 8:04:18 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Roccus

Melson S/B Melman.....sheeeeesh!!


19 posted on 10/19/2011 8:18:49 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Travis McGee

Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but from the beginning they have said neither of the two gunwalker AK’s recovered were proved to have killed the agent. Anyone want to bet that the third one is the ballistic match and that it came from a similar Texas gunwalker program?


20 posted on 10/19/2011 8:58:03 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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