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In spotlight, Herman Cain survives Attacks
politico.com ^ | 10/12/11 | Staff

Posted on 10/12/2011 4:56:29 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

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1 posted on 10/12/2011 4:56:34 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion
The liberal media is pumping Cain for all its worth. They can't believe their luck. Cain would be beatable without 9-9-9, but if he really tries to sell that turkey to the general electorate, he'll go down in flames and Obama will win re-election.

Don't think it's possible? Think again. Just ask Harry Reid about being unpopular and getting re-elected.

2 posted on 10/12/2011 4:59:02 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

He is the ONLY person on that stage I would like to see advance

Cain/Gingrich would be awesome

Sarah Palin as Energy Secretary

Ann Coulter as Press Secretary.

Thomas Sowell: Economics

Walter Williams: Education

Ted Nugent- Sec. of Defense.


3 posted on 10/12/2011 5:01:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (Sarah you broke my heart~!! Endorse Cain and all is forgiven)
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To: Huck

And from what I saw this a.m., Fox is in the tank for Romney?


4 posted on 10/12/2011 5:01:54 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Huck

Actually Cain will beat him like a Red Headed stepchild. Reid was in NV and the Country Club destroyed the Tea Party candidate.

Pray for America


5 posted on 10/12/2011 5:05:42 AM PDT by bray (The Herman Cain is rising)
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To: Huck

There you go again.


6 posted on 10/12/2011 5:07:02 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

As a former Palin-supporter, I’m disgusted with this crew.

I was leaning towards Cain, but after his statement about Alan Greenspan was disappointing.

After each debate, Newt has always done the best (in my opinion). He’s done some really sucky things but, I’m leaning towards voting for him - installing a conservative Senate & House and holding his feet to the fire.

That’s my thought today. ABR (Anybody but Romney)


7 posted on 10/12/2011 5:07:53 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Cain looked lame in the debates. On last night's live thread somebody compared him pumping his 999 plan to "The Rent Is Too High" guy.

I like him but I think he is ignorant about governance, and it bugs me that he's dismissive about others-- except Romney.

I think Ron Paul stuck him pretty good a couple of times.

8 posted on 10/12/2011 5:08:02 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Huck
Everyone held their ground last night except Perry.

Lucky for him the viewing audience was nil. I don't know if it was the football game, baseball game or folks just couldn't find the Doomberg channel.

JMHO

9 posted on 10/12/2011 5:09:55 AM PDT by not2worry (IF YOUR ARE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM)
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To: Mr. K
I like Cain more with every passing day. If Romney ends up the nominee, unless he picks Cain, I stay home. RomneyCare is no better than ObamaCare. Romney will say ANYTHING to win.
10 posted on 10/12/2011 5:10:52 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (It Could Have Been Worse Is Not A Defense For Bad Policy)
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To: Reagan69

Yep...Newt has my attention overall...and he’s rising as I suspected he might. Just too many who haven’t a clue otherwise. He can hit the ground running and not have to determine the political layout before he acts.


11 posted on 10/12/2011 5:11:32 AM PDT by caww
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To: Tribune7

I think Santorum destroyed his idea for a national sales tax, and Bachmann make a joke out of it with her 999-666 comment as well as whoever said the comment about thinking it was a pizza deal.

I think Cain took major damage last night. He’s not done for, but it took 3 debates to destroy Perry, and it will probably take 3 to destroy Cain. It’s a shame that Bachmann and Santorum can’t use their sharp tounges to destroy Romney before they exit the stage forever.


12 posted on 10/12/2011 5:12:37 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Video of last night’s debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCwpLPQEEj8


13 posted on 10/12/2011 5:13:34 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless)
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Herman Cain,

Respectfully, if analysts are making the wrong assumptions about how the 9-9-9 Plan is derived,

PLEASE TELL THE GENERAL PUBLIC THE CORRECT ASSUMPTIONS TO MAKE AS TO HOW THE 9-9-9 Plan is derived.

Thank you.

14 posted on 10/12/2011 5:13:42 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

cain answer about alan greenspan was HORRIBLE! Greenspan was one of the chief architect of bubbles and the destruction of US economy. Greenspan pretend to be a capitalist while he micromanage the interest rate for the economy like your typical central planner


15 posted on 10/12/2011 5:14:24 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Huck

The MSM is attacking Cain let and right this morning. No idea what you are talking about ~ give us some REFERENCES.


16 posted on 10/12/2011 5:14:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mr. K

Drudge Headline yesterday was that Cain was going after Romney.

He might have survived attacks on himself but never delivered on his promise.

Didn’t you feel let down just a little bit? I thnking that was a threat he is never going to carry out.


17 posted on 10/12/2011 5:17:14 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: TexasFreeper2009
It’s a shame that Bachmann and Santorum can’t use their sharp tounges to destroy Romney before they exit the stage forever.

Santorum at least took it to Romeny a little regarding health care. He seemed the only one to actually score some points against him.

As for Bachmann, what the heck is up with her and Willard?

It's like she's smitten with Mittens.

18 posted on 10/12/2011 5:18:02 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: muawiyah

lol. How about this article? Look all around. It’s Cain, Cain, Cain. They love it, and understandably so.


19 posted on 10/12/2011 5:18:20 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: Mr. K

Don’t forget John Bolton as Secretary of State!


20 posted on 10/12/2011 5:19:57 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Huck

Just ask Harry Reid about being unpopular and getting re-elected.


Cain isn’t Sharron Angle, who is dumber than a box of rocks, and a worse politician.


21 posted on 10/12/2011 5:21:57 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Mr. K

He is the ONLY person on that stage I would like to see advance

Cain/Gingrich would be awesome

Sarah Palin as Energy Secretary

Ann Coulter as Press Secretary.

Thomas Sowell: Economics

Walter Williams: Education

Ted Nugent- Sec. of Defense.


I agree whole agree and would make a few adjustments. As a cost savings measure, make Palin EPA and DOE head.

Bolton would be Sec of State. Nugent likely would not fly, but Bolton could do that.

If Coulter not press secretary and if Gingrich not VP,then Gingrich press secretary.


22 posted on 10/12/2011 5:22:57 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Tribune7
I don't know exactly. I suspect that Bachmann knows that a Romney voter would never vote for her so she only attacks the others vying for the conservative voters. Romney actually is trying to help Bachmann because the more divided the conservative vote is the better chance he has of getting the nomination.

Romney can't get above 25% in the polls, so his only path to the nomination is to make sure everyone else stays in as long as possible splitting up the remaining votes. If any single person starts to grab to big of a share of the remaining 75%... he focuses on them while simultaneously building up the others. Romney is playing this like a master. And he is obviously counting on conservatives reluctantly supporting him in the general.

23 posted on 10/12/2011 5:24:08 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Beelzebubba

Cain’s even worse. 9-9-9 will be DOA—before it ever reaches Congress. The general electorate will resoundingly reject it. He’s wedded himself to it, it’s what his campaign is all about, and it’s a stone cold loser.


24 posted on 10/12/2011 5:25:22 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: bray

Cain 999 tax plan, it is a catchy phrase but it is a political killer. You cannot win elections when you are telling the 50% of the population who pay zero taxes after filing all their deductions under the current tax code that they have to pay a mandatory 9% taxes on their income with zero deductions and an additional 9% national sales tax on every item they purchase including the basic items such as food and clothing.


25 posted on 10/12/2011 5:27:42 AM PDT by jgge
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“I think Santorum destroyed his idea for a national sales tax”

I think he tried but failed. And he had nothing better to offer.

Bachmann did a better job and targeted the main weakness of the plan, but the fact remains that 9-9-9 would be an improvement over the current system. It’s clear, simple, broadens the base and reduces the aggregate tax burden on individuals and corporations.


26 posted on 10/12/2011 5:27:52 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless)
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To: bray
I do recall (not the Country Clubbers but the Establishment) beating up on our candidate in NV.

At the same time Hairy Reed had the miners unions behind him ~ the entrepreneurial middle class having already evacuated the state during its current Great Obama Depression.

He did not have an overwhelming victory. He barely made 51% in a three-way race. He'd won the 2004 race with over 60%.

Sharon Angle failed to pull in enough Democrats, and there was that third party candidate (Tea party the data says, hunh?), and 2.2% for NONE OF THESE CANDIDATES ~ a Nevada peculiarity. Kind of like the 00 on the roulette wheel ~ gives the House a tremendous advantage every single time.

We all must note that the LEFT COAST stayed uniformly Democrat ~ which is a long term problem we will probably need to address with re-education camps, or maybe cut off their water or something (except Fresno BTW).

Don't blame your fellow Republicans for Senate losses in the far West.

27 posted on 10/12/2011 5:27:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I suspect that Bachmann knows that a Romney voter would never vote for her so she only attacks the others vying for the conservative voters. Romney actually is trying to help Bachmann because the more divided the conservative vote is the better chance he has of getting the nomination.

Good reasoning. That makes sense.

28 posted on 10/12/2011 5:29:34 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: not2worry
Seems like among the base, Newt gained some ground. People, like me, who still haven't made a decision, are giving Newt a second look.

This GOP field would make a Greek tragedian proud. It's almost laughable how each candidate is rotten in one way or another.

29 posted on 10/12/2011 5:29:36 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: Huck

You’re deluded. Cain is intelligent, and a great communicator.


30 posted on 10/12/2011 5:29:54 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: jgge
You are so funny ~ 50% don't do what?

Obviously you don't know what taxes are levied on the people, what part they end up paying (or having attributed to them), and what the 9-9-9 plan replaces.

Time for some RE-EDUMACATION!!!!

However, I'm not going to do the job in this thread. Rather, like other's I will be waiting on you to keep coming up with this point (easily refuted last evening by Cain himself) and knocking you upside the head with it.

31 posted on 10/12/2011 5:30:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BarnacleCenturion
I watched the debate last night and all the candidates were ready for the "gotcha" questions from the ugly, snarky tumulty, rose and the not bad looking hoe from bloomberg news.

I actually thought this debate format was the most fair for spreading the time.

I'm not a perry fan but I'm starting to feel sorry for him, he looks like a goldfish gasping on the kitchen floor.

The man cannot debate and if selected as the pubbie candidate he will get killed by the one.

The msm and the pubbie elite are hating life today, because the Herminator hit a solid triple last night.

Watch the media start to slam Herman, because not only do they fear the idea of a black conservative, they are now seeing how much Herman is revered and respected by those racist TEA party folks.

Contrary to the contrarian, huck, Herman's 9-9-9 tax idea is understandable and if anyone takes the time to go to Herman's home page, they'd see that it is an interim plan that leads to a fair tax plan.

If the only plan is to keep what we now have, then the USA will go the way of the Roman empire but we won't last 500 years, in fact we won't make 300.

32 posted on 10/12/2011 5:32:07 AM PDT by USS Alaska
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Three debates destroyed perry, last night he just butted the wall several times. Man is not big league. But he did come up with a good way to dumb down debt. All those illegals counted and used to say the debt per person, in Texas, was less per capita. Damn perry would want to borrow 300 million chinese and say per capita he had cut the debt in half in the united states and he and obummer would have a hell of a lot more to spend.


33 posted on 10/12/2011 5:35:12 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: Beelzebubba

Yes. He is intelligent and he is a pretty good pitchman. But even Ronald Reagan wouldn’t be able to sell what Cain is selling.


34 posted on 10/12/2011 5:36:31 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Hey, EVERYBODY laughs about the associational situation of 999 with the idea of a preprinted price on a pizza box. Still, I think that was DOMINO'S.

Now, for the sticking point on the pizza wars taking place on stage, Domino's Pizza was sold to Bain Capital in 1998 and went public in 2004. Romney didn't leave Bain Capital until 1999 which meant that for a short while he was part-OWNER of 6,000 pizza joints ~ or about 25 times as many as Mr. Cain.

The question is does anyone have any idea if Bain Capital (that is Romney) continued to make contributions to Right To Life movement organizations or did they abandon that?

35 posted on 10/12/2011 5:38:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Huck

—Cain would be beatable without 9-9-9...—

Not if the democratic nominee is Obama. But I seriously doubt it will be.


36 posted on 10/12/2011 5:39:03 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Huck
"They can't believe their luck. Cain would be beatable without 9-9-9, but if he really tries to sell that turkey to the general electorate, he'll go down in flames and Obama will win re-election.

I take it you're not a Cain supporter?

37 posted on 10/12/2011 5:40:46 AM PDT by semaj
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Herman Cain

born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

”Herman

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!

38 posted on 10/12/2011 5:41:23 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Tribune7
Bachmann knows that the typical Romney voter would first knock on her door and then ask her if she knows the real Jesus Christ.

That's when I bring up the Church of the First Born, not the one they get told about but THE REAL ONE and how they don't like doctors or Mormons (for some strange reason) ~ and it's just downhill from there.

My buddy the Moslem missionary down the street is kinder and gentler ~ a natural Bushbot (really!) and he's done a conversion or two himself.

Can you imagine what happens when the Jehovah's Witnesses come to the door?

39 posted on 10/12/2011 5:43:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Huck

—It’s almost laughable how each candidate is rotten in one way or another.—

In all seriousness, when has that not been true? Even with Reagan, look at his record in California. When you are looking for blemishes in mortal humans, you understand why every single one of us needs the blood of Christ.


40 posted on 10/12/2011 5:45:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: org.whodat

I actually think Perry did OK last night, and I especially liked his closing remarks.

He doesn’t have to win, he just can’t have another performance like that 3rd debate.


41 posted on 10/12/2011 5:45:28 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: semaj

9-9-9 makes Cain absolutely unelectable. And rightly so.


42 posted on 10/12/2011 5:47:18 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: Huck

—9-9-9 makes Cain absolutely unelectable. And rightly so.—

I disagree. And rightly so.


43 posted on 10/12/2011 5:48:37 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
ROFLOL, heard two different talk show people on the radio, both said what I said, he is over, done, finished, not going anywhere, time to go home. He also lied about the tenant farmer BS, just no one has picked up on it yet.
44 posted on 10/12/2011 5:50:59 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: Huck

You know, maybe it’s not perfect, but it is a plan...and that’s a HECK of a lot more than anyone else is putting on the table!


45 posted on 10/12/2011 5:50:59 AM PDT by dubyagee ("I can't complain, but sometimes I still do.")
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To: Neverforget01

I implore you to think through the notion that your staying home on election day is a good idea. Wouldn’t even Elmer Fudd be better for America than 4 more years of Obama? I get heart palpitations when I hear good Americans say they will stay home instead of vote for Obamas oppostion - whoever it is. This is not your usual election cycle coming up. Our future depends on Obama being thrown out. Sorry to preach....... I just get passionate when it comes to my kid’s future!


46 posted on 10/12/2011 5:51:24 AM PDT by cblue55 (It's either America, or Obama. It cannot be both!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Cain calmly weathered every jab from them, the moderators and even the Democrats,

Not exactly ...

Cain nearly lost his cool when responding to Santorum confronting him on 'nan nan nan' and it adding a National sales tax.

Later, when asked about Fed Chairmen, he responded that he thought Greenspan was the greatest and should be patterned in the future. That unleashed a tirade from Ron Paul who gave a brief, comprehensive history of ills of the Greenspan economy.

Cain lost a few points [supporters] last evening.


47 posted on 10/12/2011 5:51:36 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: jgge

Who is your candidate?


48 posted on 10/12/2011 5:52:11 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: jgge; muawiyah
Cain 999 tax plan, it is a catchy phrase but it is a political killer. You cannot win elections when you are telling the 50% of the population who pay zero taxes after filing all their deductions under the current tax code that they have to pay a mandatory 9% taxes on their income with zero deductions and an additional 9% national sales tax on every item they purchase including the basic items such as food and clothing.

You said "...after filing all their deductions under the current tax plan...". Oh my. Where to begin?

Never mind, I don't have the time to bring you up to speed. Before you go and say something foolish like that again, perhaps you ought to first educate yourself on Cain's 9-9-9 plan, and WHAT IT REPLACES...

Here: www.hermancain.com.

49 posted on 10/12/2011 5:52:36 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Mr. K
He is the ONLY person on that stage I would like to see advance

Cain/Gingrich would be awesome

Sarah Palin as Energy Secretary

Ann Coulter as Press Secretary.

Thomas Sowell: Economics

Walter Williams: Education

Ted Nugent- Sec. of Defense.

And Chicago as the brass section.

50 posted on 10/12/2011 5:52:43 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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