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To: Smokin' Joe
By the fifth article of the plan, the Congress will be obliged "on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the States [which at present amount to nine], to call a convention for proposing amendments, which shall be valid, to all intents and purposes, as part of the Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the States, or by conventions in three fourths thereof. ~ James Madison, quoting at length from Article V.

What makes you think that some socialist claptrap of a constitution would have the slightest chances of being ratified by three-quarters of the states? This argument is a straw man.

33 posted on 10/09/2011 8:46:50 AM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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To: Spartan79
What makes you think that some socialist claptrap of a constitution would have the slightest chances of being ratified by three-quarters of the states? This argument is a straw man.

Try that again. If they get the 38 to have a convention, what makes you think it won't? If 38 states think the current Constitution is unworkable, that's three fourths. Otherwise, Amend the one we have--and FOLLOW IT!

Like one obamaidiot told me as he bragged about voting for Obama, "We needed change".

There are still a significant number of people who still don't get it, and well over three fourths who don't have a clue about "freedom".

35 posted on 10/09/2011 9:09:04 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Spartan79
What makes you think that some socialist claptrap of a constitution would have the slightest chances of being ratified by three-quarters of the states? This argument is a straw man.

Oh, I dunno. Read Amendments XVI, XVII, and XVIII to see what claptrap has already been duly ratified during a "progressive era."

45 posted on 10/09/2011 11:30:34 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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