Posted on 10/02/2011 3:25:08 AM PDT by EnglishCon
The home secretary has called for the Human Rights Act to be scrapped, less than a fortnight after Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg said it was "here to stay".
The act enshrines the European Convention on Human Rights into UK law.
But Theresa May told the Sunday Telegraph she "personally" would like to see it go because of the problems it caused for the Home Office.
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Prime Minister David Cameron said he agreed with Mrs May that the act should be scrapped and replaced with a British Bill of Rights.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
English Bill of Rights???
Might start out with a 2nd Amendment so your poor citizens (oops, subjects, blokes, whatever...) can defend hearth and home from criminal miscreatants.
You might also put in the preamble, Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit if good dental care.
heehaw
English Bill of Rights???
Might start out with a 2nd Amendment so your poor citizens (oops, subjects, blokes, whatever...) can defend hearth and home from criminal miscreatants.
You might also put in the preamble, Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of good dental care.
heehaw
:P
You forget, you got the life and liberty bit from us. The good dental care - well, that’ll take some serious time.
What everyone forgets is, up until Hungerford and Dunblaine, we had the right to own arms. Actually, we still do, just incredibly heavily licensed and regulated. Those I would like to see reduced - not swept away, we are a different country with different problems, and one size does not fit all - but made more reasonable.
I hunt, both rifle and crossbow. Own my own .303 Enfield, which lives in the gun club most of the time and I am not allowed to have it or ammo for it at home at all. My crossbow, sure, that hangs by the door, despite it being just as deadly and a heck of a lot quieter.
It is a strange system.
WOW.
England lost the American Revolution
The One Euro Revolution
And is in the process of losing the Muslim Take Over Revolution.
England and Scotland had Bill of Rights 100 years before you.
What do you think yours is based on?.
The American Bill of Rights is based on what they didn’t have in England.
MY Enfield lives in MY safe.
Alongside its brother, and German cousins.
Feed, too.
The American Bill of Rights is based on what they DID have in England but didn’t have in the colonies.
Remember Jefferson’s words; “We might have been a great and free people together...”
“...up until Hungerford and Dunblaine, we had the right to own arms.”
I have to disagree with your statement. If your government took away your right to bear arms it wasn’t a right to begin with, only permission from the government.
This sounds like a great development across the pond for our conservative British friends. We see so much misery happening in England and I’ve lost track of what’s going on with all of their politics, being that we’ve got plenty of miserable politics that we’re experiencing. I had kind of lost hope for Europe. It seems that the true British may be getting back into the game. I hope they can turn it around...cheers to our British FRiends...
The English Bill of Rights (1688) guaranteed the right of the citizens to bear arms (in order to protect themselves against the standing army of the king).
The 13 colonies copied that and most added it to their colonial laws immediately.
What does it matter when you had it if you no longer have it in an operative form?
It was based on lessons learned, good and bad. England certainly did not have all of the rights enumerated in the BoR, Constitution, or concepts in the DOI.
Cheers!
I would like to thank the UK for setting the fine
example that our dear leader Obama likes to point to while
he is in the process of making a total jackass out of
himself. I think that they should not change a thing so
that the rest of the world will have something to point
to as an example of what not to do.
The operative concept is human beings, not countries. And in the case of human beings and self-defense rights, one size does indeed fit all.
“England and Scotland had Bill of Rights 100 years before you.”
And you lost it.
“What do you think yours is based on?.”
Common sense.
England and Scotland bow to royalty.
Americans do not.
England and Scotland have rights granted by Queens and
sometimes a King.
Americas rights are granted by god.
The problem we have is our own version of Bonnie Prince Charlie is sitting in the white-house pointing at western
Europe as a fine example.
Encumbered or not, the right remains. All the more reason to strip it of the infringements.
Even a ban by fiat of an unalienable right does not take the right away, it just makes the practice thereof more difficult.
In the UK the rights do not remain. They disappeared long ago.
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